| Chopra 11:49 - Sep 17 with 6048 views | itfc_bucks |
Call me a b'stard or what have you, but I find it staggeringly difficult to feel any sympathy for him.
So many opportunities to sort himself out, so many chances but he never pulled his finger out and took any of them.
Only so many chances you can be given before you have to say "you've made your bed", surely? |  | | |  |
| Chopra on 11:54 - Sep 17 with 5233 views | Steve_M |
Perhaps, or maybe addiction doesn't work like that.
As with the Brandon Williams story earlier, giving large amounts of money to impressionable, somewhat naive, young men may have bad consequences for some of them and the people around them.
I'm not entirely sure he's after sympathy now either, just expressing a degree of regret for the career, and life, he could have had. He was so good on the pitch that first season for us, an impressive all round game rather than just a goalscorer. |  |
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| Chopra on 12:03 - Sep 17 with 5154 views | SomethingBlue |
Shame you can't reflexively be a bit kinder – unless you're very well placed to know exactly what he should have done and when, and what would have worked for him specifically. In which case, do tell us. [Post edited 17 Sep 2024 12:03]
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| Chopra on 12:06 - Sep 17 with 5109 views | Guthrum |
I disagree there's such a thing as too many chances. So long as the possibility of saving someone exists, why give up?
That's not the same as giving them free leeway. Those helping have to protect themselves as well.
In Chopra's case, for example, the article says he did eventually overcome the gambling addiction, with lots of help and support. |  |
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| Chopra on 12:28 - Sep 17 with 4886 views | Illinoisblue |
He just revealed he was suicidal. No sympathy or concern for that? |  |
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| Chopra on 12:28 - Sep 17 with 4879 views | iamipswich |
The posting a picture of a bag of cash on Twitter, at a time where he had heavies after him constantly seems ill thought through. But as others have said, when someone is in the grips of an addiction, it's hard for those on the outside to really know what's going through their head. |  |
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| Chopra on 12:34 - Sep 17 with 4814 views | Vegtablue |
I think you've come to the wrong conclusion, having read the article. He's reportedly no longer in the throes of his gambling addiction - stopped a good while ago - so will have pulled his finger out at some point. Could well be lots of regret over what could or should have been, sure, but hopefully he has some good memories of his time around football and hopefully he still has half his life ahead of him. | | | |
| Chopra on 12:34 - Sep 17 with 4815 views | SE1blue |
Swap out ‘Chopra’ for a loved one in your family and you’ll have more sympathy I am sure.
We shouldn’t ever give up on anyone who is feeling suicidal, no matter what their back story is. |  |
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| Chopra on 12:38 - Sep 17 with 4759 views | Vegtablue |
| Chopra on 12:28 - Sep 17 by Illinoisblue |
He just revealed he was suicidal. No sympathy or concern for that? |
Wouldn't be surprised if jealousy plays a large part in the OP's attitude - 'what I would have given to be blessed with that talent and he wasted it'. | | | |
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| Chopra on 12:54 - Sep 17 with 4575 views | textbackup |
I’m sure I read that when they came looking for him he pointed them towards a young Cresswell as being him… what a lovely bloke
Edit. The flashing smile… 😂 here we go again [Post edited 17 Sep 2024 13:31]
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| Chopra on 12:59 - Sep 17 with 4490 views | Plums |
How's the career in HR going? |  |
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| Chopra on 13:00 - Sep 17 with 4467 views | PhilTWTD |
| Chopra on 12:54 - Sep 17 by textbackup |
I’m sure I read that when they came looking for him he pointed them towards a young Cresswell as being him… what a lovely bloke
Edit. The flashing smile… 😂 here we go again [Post edited 17 Sep 2024 13:31]
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Think the story was that they thought Cresswell was him. |  | | |
| Chopra on 13:01 - Sep 17 with 4466 views | portmanking |
| Chopra on 12:54 - Sep 17 by textbackup |
I’m sure I read that when they came looking for him he pointed them towards a young Cresswell as being him… what a lovely bloke
Edit. The flashing smile… 😂 here we go again [Post edited 17 Sep 2024 13:31]
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Yep, I remember hearing the same.
He was earning 20k p/w here and made his dad pay off a £30k debt?! Guy must've been up to his absolute neck in other debts then, surely?
I have little sympathy for him. He was an odious individual in and around town at the weekends. I lost count of the number of times he was the big I am in Aqua Eight and Revs after a heavy defeat on a Saturday evening.
He's just a classic case of an immature, working class boy who got too much, too soon. The football industry and players like Chopra, Williams etc. is a toxic mix. [Post edited 17 Sep 2024 13:02]
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| Chopra on 13:08 - Sep 17 with 4345 views | SE1blue |
| Chopra on 13:00 - Sep 17 by PhilTWTD |
Think the story was that they thought Cresswell was him. |
They briefly confused him for Lee Martin on the practice pitch but then remembered that they were looking for a footballer. | |
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| Chopra on 13:29 - Sep 17 with 4155 views | textbackup |
| Chopra on 13:00 - Sep 17 by PhilTWTD |
Think the story was that they thought Cresswell was him. |
Ah fair enough… I’m 99.99% sure I heard it the other way round, but happy to be corrected.
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| Chopra on 13:42 - Sep 17 with 4038 views | bsw72 |
Wow, just wow.
You have no comprehension of what additction looks like and the damage it can cause to families. In Chopra's case it was gambling, but could have been substance etc.
Let's hope that no-one you care about needs support from you one day with a drink, drugs or gambling dependency if this is your view. |  | | |
| Chopra on 13:45 - Sep 17 with 4010 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Chopra on 13:29 - Sep 17 by textbackup |
Ah fair enough… I’m 99.99% sure I heard it the other way round, but happy to be corrected.
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that’s the way Bullard tells it |  |
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| Chopra on 13:51 - Sep 17 with 3877 views | Stu_Magoo |
I have recently gained a new found respect (or fear?) for gambling addiction.
My best friend revealed he had sought treatment and asked me if I'd be in his circle of people he can come to and confess all and/or talk to every time he potentially relapses or feels like he might.
The complexity and depth around a gambling addiction has blown my mind.I thought it was all being weak-minded and chasing the high of a win. How wrong I was. The tapestry of emotions that weave themselves together and in turn lead my friend to gamble were eye-opening.
This has moved me firmly in to the "Gambling needs to funk off from football altogether" camp. And for the idiots who say they should just not do it, grow up or be an adult frankly need to funk off too. |  |
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| Chopra on 13:58 - Sep 17 with 3808 views | blueasfook |
| Chopra on 13:51 - Sep 17 by Stu_Magoo |
I have recently gained a new found respect (or fear?) for gambling addiction.
My best friend revealed he had sought treatment and asked me if I'd be in his circle of people he can come to and confess all and/or talk to every time he potentially relapses or feels like he might.
The complexity and depth around a gambling addiction has blown my mind.I thought it was all being weak-minded and chasing the high of a win. How wrong I was. The tapestry of emotions that weave themselves together and in turn lead my friend to gamble were eye-opening.
This has moved me firmly in to the "Gambling needs to funk off from football altogether" camp. And for the idiots who say they should just not do it, grow up or be an adult frankly need to funk off too. |
Was in a casino with my boy on Saturday night. Junior and me were just playing for pocket money, £100 worth of chips each and see how we get along. If you lose it all, not a disastrous amount to lose. Anyways, while we're playing blackjack, a fella comes in, converts £5k to chips, and then proceeds to blow the lot in about 20 minutes. The casino by law have to make you fill out a form if you spend over a certain amount. This guy was obviously known to them and a regular gambler in there, and clearly had a gambling addiction. What they should have done is turned him away, but of course they're not gonna do that. |  |
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| Chopra on 14:06 - Sep 17 with 3723 views | smithy69 |
At work today we found out a 18 year old lad who you would think has everything in front of him - killed himself last night
Sometimes a little bit of compassion is needed in this world. Not everything is black and white | | | |
| Chopra on 14:13 - Sep 17 with 3643 views | textbackup |
So it’s either believe Bullard, or Chopra…
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| Chopra on 15:01 - Sep 17 with 3390 views | bluelady |
awful post badly thought through. Gambling addiction is an illness the same as drugs/alcohol/eating disorders etc.... yes the person with the illness is "in control theoretically", but these people (like Chopra) are so caught up in the addiction they cannot see a way out... taking more drugs to 'feel better', starting drinking earlier in the day to mask the hang over, putting on more and more bets because the next one will be the big one that will help pay off the debt.... Addiction is terribly sad and leads to a large number of suicides, thank goodness he finally found the strength to over come and hopefully his story will make people realise it can happen to just about anyone! |  | | |
| Chopra on 16:32 - Sep 17 with 3014 views | mutters |
Addiction is so very hard to overcome, no matter what walk of life you come from. Just because you have lots of money doesn't exclude you from these traps, in fact, you could say the more money you have can expose you to bigger and greater risks.
People who have addictions can be absolute idiots to the people around them, and from that side, I can see why some may have very little sympathy, but once you separate the person from the disease then you really start to see them in a different light.
Sadly sometimes the desire to change and get back on the right path can come too late to save what should never have been lost. |  |
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| Chopra on 16:42 - Sep 17 with 2974 views | MK1 |
You b'stard. |  |
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