| Serious lack of a goal threat 18:04 - Sep 21 with 4640 views | GlasgowBlue |
is the difference between a point ands three. Discuss. |  |
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:06 - Sep 21 with 4173 views | MK1 |
Hutchinson, Szmodics, Delap, Clarke and Hirst. Give it time. |  |
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:07 - Sep 21 with 4150 views | bournemouthblue |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:06 - Sep 21 by MK1 |
Hutchinson, Szmodics, Delap, Clarke and Hirst. Give it time. |
you'd hope so, we do lack a PL quality striker though
Edit: or at least PL quality goalscorer [Post edited 21 Sep 2024 18:07]
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:07 - Sep 21 with 4125 views | GeoffSentence |
Aside from today's game, which was away, we've played teams who are right up there. Next week will be the same. I'd like to see who much of a goal threat we have at home against some of the lower teams before concluding that we had a serious lack of it. |  |
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:09 - Sep 21 with 4075 views | nodge_blue |
Its complicated.
We scored two goals a game all last season. That threat hasnt evaporated. But now Davis for example isnt playing anywhere near as high up the pitch and everyone in general seems to be sitting deeper.
So we could tweak that. But i think McKenna wants us to get some hard fought points on the board. |  |
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:11 - Sep 21 with 4001 views | Illinoisblue |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:09 - Sep 21 by nodge_blue |
Its complicated.
We scored two goals a game all last season. That threat hasnt evaporated. But now Davis for example isnt playing anywhere near as high up the pitch and everyone in general seems to be sitting deeper.
So we could tweak that. But i think McKenna wants us to get some hard fought points on the board. |
Get The Balance Right as those blokes from Essex once sang. |  |
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:13 - Sep 21 with 3958 views | 2-5-7 |
It's a level up so chances are tighter and mean more when not taken.
We have improved in every game and have had purple patches in all - smaller against Man City obvs.
Today enough created or nearly created with a little more composure if thats the right word
Progressing - so thumbs up to that |  | | |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:14 - Sep 21 with 3947 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:07 - Sep 21 by bournemouthblue |
you'd hope so, we do lack a PL quality striker though
Edit: or at least PL quality goalscorer [Post edited 21 Sep 2024 18:07]
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I’m not sure it’s really a #9 problem so far, it’s a step before that and more #10 / 11 / 7. We’re a bit toothless in the final 3rd, some of the quality and decision making at times has been a bit under par. It’s more a case of turning promising possession into proper chance creation for me, rather than squandering sitters. Delap’s living off scraps a bit, I can count on 1 hand the amount of times Burns / Davis / Szmodics are getting in behind their full backs which is something we became so used to seeing last season (not szmodics obviously). |  | | |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:18 - Sep 21 with 3883 views | cbower |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:09 - Sep 21 by nodge_blue |
Its complicated.
We scored two goals a game all last season. That threat hasnt evaporated. But now Davis for example isnt playing anywhere near as high up the pitch and everyone in general seems to be sitting deeper.
So we could tweak that. But i think McKenna wants us to get some hard fought points on the board. |
Agree that Davis' position is so much deeper. There are several reasons for this. Firstly, the whole team is so much more wary that any spaces vacated, for example by Davis all but playing left wing, will most likely be more readily punished. Secondly, with Szmodics infront of him, Leif seems more restrained. Szmods is a striker for me being shoehorned into a left sided position to which he isn’t suited. It was noticeable to me that once Clarke started to get a foothold in the final 15, davis looked better. Clarke carrying and cutting inside on his right started to open more space for Leif. Finally, we seem to be moving the ball too slowly at the moment. When Leif finds space, it's taking way too long to get to him.
It will come. we need to give it time though |  |
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:20 - Sep 21 with 3839 views | TheBoyBlue |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:09 - Sep 21 by nodge_blue |
Its complicated.
We scored two goals a game all last season. That threat hasnt evaporated. But now Davis for example isnt playing anywhere near as high up the pitch and everyone in general seems to be sitting deeper.
So we could tweak that. But i think McKenna wants us to get some hard fought points on the board. |
Today seemed like one of those days when we were wasteful in front of goal. We've had days like that in the Championship and League 1, hopefully it's just a one-off like those. |  |
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:25 - Sep 21 with 3787 views | homer_123 |
Not sure I'd say it a 'serious' lack.
It's a significant step up to this level. Historically our goals have come from across the team but we have less time and space across the park at the moment.
We're still learning and getting to grips. Even with the really good additions to the squad we were never going to score at the rate we did in L1 and the Chumpionship.
It's early doors....I'm not overly concerned at the moment. It's nothing more than a slight concern for me. |  |
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:27 - Sep 21 with 3753 views | burnbudgiesburn |
McKenna ' on the regains we're not managing to make big opportunities at the moment that we should... that's just a matter of work and keeping at it'
I felt at Brighton last week our final ball on the break cost us several potential chances. | | | |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:29 - Sep 21 with 3695 views | JakeITFC |
Would say the opposite today - didn’t click particularly well in forward areas but still got a goal and forced Ramsdale into two really good saves. My worry was how easily Southampton cut through us in their rare attacks, they could (and probably should) have had two or three.
Feels like a long time in but we are still so early in the season and have only been beaten by City and Liverpool. I feel like we are a squad of players still working it out a bit and will only improve from here. |  | | |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:36 - Sep 21 with 3585 views | BloomBlue |
As others have said, our approach to games has been tweaked so we're staying deeper.
If you look at the Brighton game, KM almost went full MM, in the first half we played 6 at the back, 8 for a lot of it, ie play for a 0-0 and hopefully hit them on the break. This meant when the forwards did get the ball they had nobody supporting them.
Today, while we were setup to be more attacking than the Brighton game, LD was again staying in that LB position.
Whereas if you look at the Liverpool game LD was bombing forward aka Champ/L1 style, trouble was L'pool did a simple tweak at HT, they let LD continue bombing forward and simply knocked the ball into that gap.
KM has clearly decided for now defence is the main requirement while the team continues to gel. I'm sure things will change in the attack department over the next 5-10 games with us moving towards a more attacking mindset.
The one concern is strikers need goals, if they don't confidence will go and that's when they snatch at half chances. |  | | |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:48 - Sep 21 with 3457 views | BarcaBlue |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:29 - Sep 21 by JakeITFC |
Would say the opposite today - didn’t click particularly well in forward areas but still got a goal and forced Ramsdale into two really good saves. My worry was how easily Southampton cut through us in their rare attacks, they could (and probably should) have had two or three.
Feels like a long time in but we are still so early in the season and have only been beaten by City and Liverpool. I feel like we are a squad of players still working it out a bit and will only improve from here. |
That's a good summary. Also thought Szmodics should have done a lot better when put through. He didn't look up and whacked it into the side netting. Our finishing wasn't great but it's not like we created nothing.
Hopefully at the back it's a case of unfamiliarity as it wasn't great today. The centre backs didn't look as quick as I thought they'd be and Cajuste in particular wasn't offering much protection. |  | | |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:50 - Sep 21 with 3443 views | RadioOrwell |
Unsurprising learning curve for group that doesn't know this league or to a large extent, each other.
Don't bother discussing. |  | | |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:52 - Sep 21 with 3416 views | Vic |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:18 - Sep 21 by cbower |
Agree that Davis' position is so much deeper. There are several reasons for this. Firstly, the whole team is so much more wary that any spaces vacated, for example by Davis all but playing left wing, will most likely be more readily punished. Secondly, with Szmodics infront of him, Leif seems more restrained. Szmods is a striker for me being shoehorned into a left sided position to which he isn’t suited. It was noticeable to me that once Clarke started to get a foothold in the final 15, davis looked better. Clarke carrying and cutting inside on his right started to open more space for Leif. Finally, we seem to be moving the ball too slowly at the moment. When Leif finds space, it's taking way too long to get to him.
It will come. we need to give it time though |
I think you’re right about us moving the ball too slowly - we were relatively ponderous up front at time today. Little of the quick interplay and zipped passes. I wonder if that may be lack of experience and perhaps also a tad of a confidence thing. Our defence has tightened up really well - but if we can’t start scoring it will be a problem in a few games. |  |
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:57 - Sep 21 with 3345 views | backwaywhen |
Trust the process and we will definitely improve as the weeks tick by , McKenna is getting a feel for our new squad and knows what he wants and will achieve……….patience is a must for all within the club .
In McKenna we trust . | | | |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 19:12 - Sep 21 with 3247 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
It's a fair concern. Someone more clinical up top and we'd have a couple more points - and we were trying to get that person during the transfer window - but as others have said, it's early days. |  |
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 19:22 - Sep 21 with 3192 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:57 - Sep 21 by backwaywhen |
Trust the process and we will definitely improve as the weeks tick by , McKenna is getting a feel for our new squad and knows what he wants and will achieve……….patience is a must for all within the club .
In McKenna we trust . |
Funny you should mention "trust the process".
Something I noticed was that when we were reaching the final 10 minute of the game the newer boys were rushing things, trying too hard to make things happen. This lead to sloppy passing and moves breaking down. Whereas the boys who have been with us since the league one and championship days did "trust the process" as they have been part of so many late equalisers/winners by playing the same way in minute 90 as they did in minute 1. | |
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 19:32 - Sep 21 with 3080 views | ReusersTown |
13 shots away from home didn't sound like a serious lack of goal threat. In this game anyway. | | | |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 21:34 - Sep 21 with 2761 views | SouperJim |
No lack of threat, Szmodics had two chances including a free header from 6 yards, Hutchinson one from distance which he often scores and Hirst missed a header. We're just not taking them yet, but as long as we keep getting them it'll come.
Should have won today. |  |
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| Serious lack of a goal threat on 21:38 - Sep 21 with 2728 views | Leaky |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:07 - Sep 21 by bournemouthblue |
you'd hope so, we do lack a PL quality striker though
Edit: or at least PL quality goalscorer [Post edited 21 Sep 2024 18:07]
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So do most teams out of the top 6 |  | | |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 21:45 - Sep 21 with 2685 views | Leaky |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:09 - Sep 21 by nodge_blue |
Its complicated.
We scored two goals a game all last season. That threat hasnt evaporated. But now Davis for example isnt playing anywhere near as high up the pitch and everyone in general seems to be sitting deeper.
So we could tweak that. But i think McKenna wants us to get some hard fought points on the board. |
Must admit when we got promoted I thought Rotherham score 3 against at PR what Pep's lot do. So tightening up at the back was must do | | | |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 00:29 - Sep 22 with 2313 views | Mookamoo |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 18:18 - Sep 21 by cbower |
Agree that Davis' position is so much deeper. There are several reasons for this. Firstly, the whole team is so much more wary that any spaces vacated, for example by Davis all but playing left wing, will most likely be more readily punished. Secondly, with Szmodics infront of him, Leif seems more restrained. Szmods is a striker for me being shoehorned into a left sided position to which he isn’t suited. It was noticeable to me that once Clarke started to get a foothold in the final 15, davis looked better. Clarke carrying and cutting inside on his right started to open more space for Leif. Finally, we seem to be moving the ball too slowly at the moment. When Leif finds space, it's taking way too long to get to him.
It will come. we need to give it time though |
I don't think people realise just how important Luongo was to how Davis played last year.
Phillips and Cajuste are different types of players so that dynamic has changed. Davis no longer has that guarantee that there will be a selfless central midfielder filling the gaps behind him so is much more cautious, and rightly so. |  | | |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 00:51 - Sep 22 with 2263 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Serious lack of a goal threat on 21:34 - Sep 21 by SouperJim |
No lack of threat, Szmodics had two chances including a free header from 6 yards, Hutchinson one from distance which he often scores and Hirst missed a header. We're just not taking them yet, but as long as we keep getting them it'll come.
Should have won today. |
Would like to see more of Hutchinson cutting inside and taking a shot but he seemed to be positioning himself too far from the goal. Higher up the park he is more dangerous. Also did not press home the advantage we had with their full back being on a yellow. Small things matter in tight games. |  | | |
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