| Thoughts after 5 games 05:30 - Sep 22 with 4290 views | victorysquad |
It seems every team in the Premier League are:
1) Well coached
2) Very physical
3) Bags of quality
4) Every player runs hard
5) Pace / Speed
This is the bare minimum required to even remotely compete.
Where are we?
1) Tick - obv more work to be done to make that front 4 tick, but I think it will come
2) Delap + Cajuste + Greaves are a good start on that side of things.
You look at Fulham and they have some real units in there, for me we could we do with one
more
3) Quality - for me, this is where the next £100-£200m would make such a big difference to us. I don't think
we need another 10 players, but you look at even Man United's recruitment, and they are signing players for £40-50m.
For me, we are probably 4 short, £50m each, if we could attract them.
4) I think our players are running hard, but we need to keep pushing on that side of things too, it is
one area we can level the playing field
5) I think with Ogbene, and O'Shea, we are clearly targetted speed as another key attribute
So you can see what we have done signing wise, and I think we have bought well with the resources we have had, and
if we can keep picking up points, January might be easier to sign players.
What next?
1) We have to keep together on and off the pitch, I am sure we will. It is our super power. I thought the away support
was fantastic yesterday, everyone gave their all.
2) We have to recognise we are still getting the team to gel, it is not quite clicking yet
3) We will have played 5 top 8 teams in our first 6 games. That is really key, because if you look at the table,
if we have played 5 of the bottom 8 teams, you would likely have at least 3 more points, and we would be level 12th,
4) I personally think we need to be looking to strengthen again in January, we could do with spending big on a couple
of high quality premier league players, just to give us a bit more help, and then I think we can compete with Brentford / Bournemouth West Ham
So we need to keep working hard, continue with our ethos of continous improvement, and be patient. It has been a decent start given our fixtures.
They say the table does not lie, but I think it does currently and we are probably 2 or 3 places ahead of where we are.
I would like to see our xG go up, but I suspect when the front 4 start clicking it will.
Corner kicks, I know we scored from one yesterday, but I still never think we will score from them, so the set piece coach needs to
do some more work here. That Arsenal goal from a corner vs Spurs, we should try. But we need to do better from corners.
These points we are picking up are hugely valuable, they build a base for us to build from, and build confidence in the squad that we can be competitive in this league.
Travel wise, the team don't have a 'long away' trip now until 25th Jan. We have London (x5), Wolves + Nottingham.
Home games are going to be massive for us this season, and will be our best chance of taking all 3 points.
A bit of a rambled set of words, but having watched all 5 games in the flesh, this is what I take from it.
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 06:35 - Sep 22 with 4085 views | ElephantintheRoom |
You forget early season enthusiasm
From now on the 15 teams with nothing to play for will slowly morph into 10 teams with nothing to play for and 5 struggling to survive for another year of dross
All 15 will play reserves and rejects in the FA Cup to add to the sense of pointlessness
5 will sack their managers before Xmas, starting with wolves, Southampton, Leicester and Everton… 2 of those will get dead cat bounces
The grind of relentless defeats and no wins will wear the three promoted teams down as most of their players are transient mercenaries who think someone else will shall then up if they get relegated
FFP might ride to the rescue but dont bank on it because when the PL cave in to Oil State Sportswashing Project the other cheats will benefit too. | |
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 06:48 - Sep 22 with 4074 views | victorysquad |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 06:35 - Sep 22 by ElephantintheRoom |
You forget early season enthusiasm
From now on the 15 teams with nothing to play for will slowly morph into 10 teams with nothing to play for and 5 struggling to survive for another year of dross
All 15 will play reserves and rejects in the FA Cup to add to the sense of pointlessness
5 will sack their managers before Xmas, starting with wolves, Southampton, Leicester and Everton… 2 of those will get dead cat bounces
The grind of relentless defeats and no wins will wear the three promoted teams down as most of their players are transient mercenaries who think someone else will shall then up if they get relegated
FFP might ride to the rescue but dont bank on it because when the PL cave in to Oil State Sportswashing Project the other cheats will benefit too. |
I can understand you are talking about Norwich's experience, and after you lost your best players in the summer, I can understand your comment about 'transient mercenaries', however, we are trying to take a different tack, and recruit the right characters into the football club. It is shame your years of failure in the Premier League has left you so jaded, I do recommend going back down to League One, it is a great place to have a hard reset, and I am sure you will rise once more. | |
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 07:09 - Sep 22 with 3992 views | textbackup |
Sorry, did you say we need 4 x £50m players? |  |
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 08:30 - Sep 22 with 3695 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
It's too early to talk about the likes of Fulham and Brighton as Top 8 teams, the table is only 5 games old.
I doubt FFP will allow us to spend big in Jan, and it's a terrible window to buy in. |  |
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 08:46 - Sep 22 with 3599 views | MK1 |
We have spent enough for now. "4 x £50M players"? You are about 10 years ahead of yourself there. We are well coached, physical, have quality, run all game long and have pace in abundance. We will be fine. |  |
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 08:56 - Sep 22 with 3529 views | victorysquad |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 07:09 - Sep 22 by textbackup |
Sorry, did you say we need 4 x £50m players? |
To be mid table comfortable yes
Taking fulham as an example, I would take smith rowe, alex owabi, traore and muniz
I think those are the sort lf four we need to add in
If the ownership want a sustainable premier league club, this is what we need to add. But i get ffp and investment may not allow it
But yes i want us to be ambitious
If we are going to keep our manager and the best players we need to show ambition, we need to keep in mind the goal of that new cobbold stand lit up in blue on a tuesday night european match under the lights playing a top european team
I want us back in Europe, that has to be the target, what other target is there? [Post edited 22 Sep 2024 9:04]
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 08:56 - Sep 22 with 3528 views | Stewart27 |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 06:35 - Sep 22 by ElephantintheRoom |
You forget early season enthusiasm
From now on the 15 teams with nothing to play for will slowly morph into 10 teams with nothing to play for and 5 struggling to survive for another year of dross
All 15 will play reserves and rejects in the FA Cup to add to the sense of pointlessness
5 will sack their managers before Xmas, starting with wolves, Southampton, Leicester and Everton… 2 of those will get dead cat bounces
The grind of relentless defeats and no wins will wear the three promoted teams down as most of their players are transient mercenaries who think someone else will shall then up if they get relegated
FFP might ride to the rescue but dont bank on it because when the PL cave in to Oil State Sportswashing Project the other cheats will benefit too. |
Shut up | | | |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 09:02 - Sep 22 with 3468 views | MK1 |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 08:56 - Sep 22 by victorysquad |
To be mid table comfortable yes
Taking fulham as an example, I would take smith rowe, alex owabi, traore and muniz
I think those are the sort lf four we need to add in
If the ownership want a sustainable premier league club, this is what we need to add. But i get ffp and investment may not allow it
But yes i want us to be ambitious
If we are going to keep our manager and the best players we need to show ambition, we need to keep in mind the goal of that new cobbold stand lit up in blue on a tuesday night european match under the lights playing a top european team
I want us back in Europe, that has to be the target, what other target is there? [Post edited 22 Sep 2024 9:04]
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Smith Rowe nearly came here for £25M. If we survive this season, I expect up grades to Chaplin, Burgess, Luongo and Al-Hamadi. They will probably be around the £15M-£25M range. | |
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 09:08 - Sep 22 with 3442 views | textbackup |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 08:56 - Sep 22 by victorysquad |
To be mid table comfortable yes
Taking fulham as an example, I would take smith rowe, alex owabi, traore and muniz
I think those are the sort lf four we need to add in
If the ownership want a sustainable premier league club, this is what we need to add. But i get ffp and investment may not allow it
But yes i want us to be ambitious
If we are going to keep our manager and the best players we need to show ambition, we need to keep in mind the goal of that new cobbold stand lit up in blue on a tuesday night european match under the lights playing a top european team
I want us back in Europe, that has to be the target, what other target is there? [Post edited 22 Sep 2024 9:04]
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If we were to spend £50m on 4 players (and I mean genuine £50m players, not inflated bullsht pricing) I’d be a bit annoyed to only be mid table. | |
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 11:32 - Sep 22 with 3123 views | benrhyddingblue |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 08:46 - Sep 22 by MK1 |
We have spent enough for now. "4 x £50M players"? You are about 10 years ahead of yourself there. We are well coached, physical, have quality, run all game long and have pace in abundance. We will be fine. |
Yes, I was talking to some Brighton fans last week about the quality of their players, passing and movement and the first thing they said was that it has taken years to happen and that their first couple of seasons in the Prem were just hanging in there basically. | | | |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 11:53 - Sep 22 with 3057 views | ITFC_Forever |
I would also add that the standard of refereeing isn’t much better than L1 and the Champ, we may as well have Stroud, Ward etc. back and be done with it.
That said, Prem players don’t exactly help the officials…. For such big strong lads, they fall down very easily. |  |
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 12:03 - Sep 22 with 3013 views | Vic |
Agree with a lot of that but as we know with Cook the gelling thing can only be a short lived excuse.
For me, the Prem is just faster and stronger than I expected. I really hope we stay up, but it’s by no means a foregone conclusion with our young and inexperienced squad. |  |
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 12:14 - Sep 22 with 2958 views | Churchman |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 12:03 - Sep 22 by Vic |
Agree with a lot of that but as we know with Cook the gelling thing can only be a short lived excuse.
For me, the Prem is just faster and stronger than I expected. I really hope we stay up, but it’s by no means a foregone conclusion with our young and inexperienced squad. |
Indeed, but players not quite sure where each other are is a factor at the moment. I noticed it in the Fulham game. The extra little touch, looking up to check where a player is etc. you can’t do it at this level but there is never an instant absorbing of so many new players.
I notice that season 2021/22 KMs team (with the odd exception (Gillingham, Burton, Charlton last game) didn’t score or concede many whilst they got to grips with his way of playing. Pattern repeating itself?
My expectation/hope is that it’ll be a lot better in a month’s time. |  | | |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 12:25 - Sep 22 with 2909 views | Dennyx4 |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 12:14 - Sep 22 by Churchman |
Indeed, but players not quite sure where each other are is a factor at the moment. I noticed it in the Fulham game. The extra little touch, looking up to check where a player is etc. you can’t do it at this level but there is never an instant absorbing of so many new players.
I notice that season 2021/22 KMs team (with the odd exception (Gillingham, Burton, Charlton last game) didn’t score or concede many whilst they got to grips with his way of playing. Pattern repeating itself?
My expectation/hope is that it’ll be a lot better in a month’s time. |
I wonder whether there is a thought to have Burns, Chaplin, Hutchinson and Hirst on the pitch at the same time to increase the flow better.
You could start the game with say Ogbene, Hutchinson, Szmodics and Delap, which is not too far off what we start with anyway. And then bring on Burns, Chaplin and Hirst for the final push - Hutchinson remains on, and we then have the 4 that played together for a long time on the pitch together. |  | | |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 13:01 - Sep 22 with 2790 views | Sharkey |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 12:03 - Sep 22 by Vic |
Agree with a lot of that but as we know with Cook the gelling thing can only be a short lived excuse.
For me, the Prem is just faster and stronger than I expected. I really hope we stay up, but it’s by no means a foregone conclusion with our young and inexperienced squad. |
The squad is inexperienced, but not particularly young by PL standards. Its average age is pretty much the average age of PL players as a whole.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/altersschnitt/wettbewerb/GB1 |  | | |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 13:08 - Sep 22 with 2752 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 06:35 - Sep 22 by ElephantintheRoom |
You forget early season enthusiasm
From now on the 15 teams with nothing to play for will slowly morph into 10 teams with nothing to play for and 5 struggling to survive for another year of dross
All 15 will play reserves and rejects in the FA Cup to add to the sense of pointlessness
5 will sack their managers before Xmas, starting with wolves, Southampton, Leicester and Everton… 2 of those will get dead cat bounces
The grind of relentless defeats and no wins will wear the three promoted teams down as most of their players are transient mercenaries who think someone else will shall then up if they get relegated
FFP might ride to the rescue but dont bank on it because when the PL cave in to Oil State Sportswashing Project the other cheats will benefit too. |
Fk me. You are so facking tedious. If you are inexplicably allowed on here as some comic value, it's not working. |  |
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 16:53 - Sep 22 with 2431 views | billlm |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 08:30 - Sep 22 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It's too early to talk about the likes of Fulham and Brighton as Top 8 teams, the table is only 5 games old.
I doubt FFP will allow us to spend big in Jan, and it's a terrible window to buy in. |
Brighton are a top 8 side |  | | |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 17:08 - Sep 22 with 2383 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 06:35 - Sep 22 by ElephantintheRoom |
You forget early season enthusiasm
From now on the 15 teams with nothing to play for will slowly morph into 10 teams with nothing to play for and 5 struggling to survive for another year of dross
All 15 will play reserves and rejects in the FA Cup to add to the sense of pointlessness
5 will sack their managers before Xmas, starting with wolves, Southampton, Leicester and Everton… 2 of those will get dead cat bounces
The grind of relentless defeats and no wins will wear the three promoted teams down as most of their players are transient mercenaries who think someone else will shall then up if they get relegated
FFP might ride to the rescue but dont bank on it because when the PL cave in to Oil State Sportswashing Project the other cheats will benefit too. |
OK. finally div-listed. I've tried to overlook the spectacular divdom, but I can't. You ruin my experience on this forum.
Someone takes the time to produce an extremely thoughtful, interesting, engaging post, for sensible discussion and you take a dump on it. Well done.
👏 🤬 [Post edited 22 Sep 2024 17:10]
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 17:15 - Sep 22 with 2343 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 12:03 - Sep 22 by Vic |
Agree with a lot of that but as we know with Cook the gelling thing can only be a short lived excuse.
For me, the Prem is just faster and stronger than I expected. I really hope we stay up, but it’s by no means a foregone conclusion with our young and inexperienced squad. |
Time to gel is a genuine reason for performances (although most teams have plenty of new players and so are in the same boat). The fact that it didn't get better under Cook was indicative of there being other additional root causes. |  |
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 17:17 - Sep 22 with 2337 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 17:08 - Sep 22 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
OK. finally div-listed. I've tried to overlook the spectacular divdom, but I can't. You ruin my experience on this forum.
Someone takes the time to produce an extremely thoughtful, interesting, engaging post, for sensible discussion and you take a dump on it. Well done.
👏 🤬 [Post edited 22 Sep 2024 17:10]
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It's beyond bizarre it's been overlooked or been allowed to continue for as long as it has. I am genuinely baffled by it. [Post edited 22 Sep 2024 17:18]
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| Thoughts after 5 games on 17:20 - Sep 22 with 2310 views | Churchman |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 12:25 - Sep 22 by Dennyx4 |
I wonder whether there is a thought to have Burns, Chaplin, Hutchinson and Hirst on the pitch at the same time to increase the flow better.
You could start the game with say Ogbene, Hutchinson, Szmodics and Delap, which is not too far off what we start with anyway. And then bring on Burns, Chaplin and Hirst for the final push - Hutchinson remains on, and we then have the 4 that played together for a long time on the pitch together. |
Great question. I think the ‘cavalry’ thing is something KM has used well previously so my guess is they’ve considered all options including yours. | | | |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 17:23 - Sep 22 with 2281 views | stonojnr |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 08:56 - Sep 22 by victorysquad |
To be mid table comfortable yes
Taking fulham as an example, I would take smith rowe, alex owabi, traore and muniz
I think those are the sort lf four we need to add in
If the ownership want a sustainable premier league club, this is what we need to add. But i get ffp and investment may not allow it
But yes i want us to be ambitious
If we are going to keep our manager and the best players we need to show ambition, we need to keep in mind the goal of that new cobbold stand lit up in blue on a tuesday night european match under the lights playing a top european team
I want us back in Europe, that has to be the target, what other target is there? [Post edited 22 Sep 2024 9:04]
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Might want to set your sights abit lower, like 4th from bottom will be a good season for us.
And our manager is unlikely to see out his full contract, that's just the nature of football, he is already 14th out of 92 managers for the longest serving managers across the leagues, so it's not about the ambition or lack of, it's about creating something that's sustainable for Ipswich Town in the Premier league. That doesn't mean spending 100million every transfer window and it doesn't mean winning most games or even drawing them. | | | |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 17:28 - Sep 22 with 2252 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 06:35 - Sep 22 by ElephantintheRoom |
You forget early season enthusiasm
From now on the 15 teams with nothing to play for will slowly morph into 10 teams with nothing to play for and 5 struggling to survive for another year of dross
All 15 will play reserves and rejects in the FA Cup to add to the sense of pointlessness
5 will sack their managers before Xmas, starting with wolves, Southampton, Leicester and Everton… 2 of those will get dead cat bounces
The grind of relentless defeats and no wins will wear the three promoted teams down as most of their players are transient mercenaries who think someone else will shall then up if they get relegated
FFP might ride to the rescue but dont bank on it because when the PL cave in to Oil State Sportswashing Project the other cheats will benefit too. |
I must admit that I dont mind the Effalump being on here. The attempts at negativity always meet with deaf ears. As they should be.
But it shows that this forum is tollerant even when posts are clearly designed to wind up.
Contrast that with the fate of blues attempting to comment on the pink thingy. They are mostly called out straight away even when what they say is mearly correcting Budgie inaccuracies.
No, we are better than them and we know it. Much more tollerant.
Leave them to their anxieties of inadequacys and allow them to chew on the bitter pill that is NCFC.
After all it must be a bug ...r to think you were superior to actully find that it was all false. |  | | |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 17:33 - Sep 22 with 2226 views | Durovigutum |
| Thoughts after 5 games on 11:53 - Sep 22 by ITFC_Forever |
I would also add that the standard of refereeing isn’t much better than L1 and the Champ, we may as well have Stroud, Ward etc. back and be done with it.
That said, Prem players don’t exactly help the officials…. For such big strong lads, they fall down very easily. |
It’s almost as if refereeing is really difficult.
One bloke, normally older and slower than all of the athletes on the pitch, running around to desperately get in a position to be able to see what is going on, considering that at any second the ball could be hammered to the other end of the pitch in a few seconds. |  | | |
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