| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state 17:45 - Sep 24 with 5437 views | GlasgowBlue |
rather than a constitutional monarchy, think again.
Whata fcukin embarrassment. [Post edited 24 Sep 2024 17:46]
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 17:49 - Sep 24 with 3566 views | Zx1988 |
That would hit home if the royals were squeaky clean themselves.
£12m to pay off a girl that Prince Nonce claims he never met would suggest otherwise.
It's a bit of a strange logical leap to pooh-pooh the entire republican movement on the basis that a President did a Bad Thing. |  |
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 17:51 - Sep 24 with 3547 views | positivity |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 17:49 - Sep 24 by Zx1988 |
That would hit home if the royals were squeaky clean themselves.
£12m to pay off a girl that Prince Nonce claims he never met would suggest otherwise.
It's a bit of a strange logical leap to pooh-pooh the entire republican movement on the basis that a President did a Bad Thing. |
if trump couldn't kill off presidencies and andrew et al couldn't kill off monarchies, don't think this will do it! | |
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:03 - Sep 24 with 3502 views | J2BLUE |
Hard to take him seriously. |  |
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:05 - Sep 24 with 3494 views | Swansea_Blue |
Can we have neither and just go for a benevolent dictator? One who sends N*rwich supporters down the mines and issues us with a weekly supplies of specialist cheeses and fine ale. |  |
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:10 - Sep 24 with 3461 views | bluelagos |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:03 - Sep 24 by J2BLUE |
Hard to take him seriously. |
I know Glassers is a strong monarchist but that's a tad harsh. |  |
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:12 - Sep 24 with 3449 views | MattinLondon |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:10 - Sep 24 by bluelagos |
I know Glassers is a strong monarchist but that's a tad harsh. |
Is it really? |  | | |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:21 - Sep 24 with 3403 views | GlasgowBlue |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:12 - Sep 24 by MattinLondon |
Is it really? |
#Be Kind | |
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:24 - Sep 24 with 3388 views | MattinLondon |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:21 - Sep 24 by GlasgowBlue |
#Be Kind |
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:25 - Sep 24 with 3384 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Sounds like BCWYWF - well a lot of posters told us the alternative to the massive incompetent Evan’s was worse..how’s that worked out..
Incredible really that a bunch of tax dodging, law avoiding, undemocratic billionaires have such a hold over people. Possibly the most impressive act of cuckholding ever. | | | |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:49 - Sep 24 with 3306 views | GlasgowBlue |
It gets worse. Not content with the Irish President indulging in antisemitic conspiracy theories, a journalist on mainstream Irish media talks of a "global Jewish lobby".
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:53 - Sep 24 with 3268 views | Churchman |
Even if this guy’s a grade one idiot, the principle is still sound.
A head of state elected, not born of somebody else, has to be preferable. Up the Parliamentarians and the New Model Army! |  | | |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 19:13 - Sep 24 with 3190 views | Lord_Lucan |
Is he an actual leprechaun??😂😂😂🙈 |  |
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 19:19 - Sep 24 with 3168 views | DarkBrandon |
Isn’t the point that the Irish can vote him out if they want to? |  | | |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 19:25 - Sep 24 with 3149 views | Blueschev |
Yes because nobody in the British royal family have ever held antisemitic views. We should definitely keep them and all of their hangers on because the Irish president is an arse. Case closed. |  | | |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 19:29 - Sep 24 with 3120 views | Zx1988 |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 19:25 - Sep 24 by Blueschev |
Yes because nobody in the British royal family have ever held antisemitic views. We should definitely keep them and all of their hangers on because the Irish president is an arse. Case closed. |
Indeed. Prince Philip famously loved and cared about almost all the peoples of the world. | |
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 19:35 - Sep 24 with 3077 views | brazil1982 |
He couldn't look more Irish. |  | | |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 19:40 - Sep 24 with 3055 views | DJR |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:49 - Sep 24 by GlasgowBlue |
It gets worse. Not content with the Irish President indulging in antisemitic conspiracy theories, a journalist on mainstream Irish media talks of a "global Jewish lobby".
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That's pretty awful. |  | | |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 20:08 - Sep 24 with 2943 views | Ryorry |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:53 - Sep 24 by Churchman |
Even if this guy’s a grade one idiot, the principle is still sound.
A head of state elected, not born of somebody else, has to be preferable. Up the Parliamentarians and the New Model Army! |
The “wisdom” of voters who gave us President T.rump once - and might do so again, not to mention Brassneck Johnson, tells against your theory. Oliver Cromwell was hardly a cuddly, wise or peaceable leader either. |  |
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 21:06 - Sep 24 with 2836 views | dickie |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 19:19 - Sep 24 by DarkBrandon |
Isn’t the point that the Irish can vote him out if they want to? |
Sorry fat thumb, accidental down vote! | | | |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 21:46 - Sep 24 with 2748 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Not your best post.
A democratically elected President has accountability.
Just make your point about Higgins' weird comment and leave it at that!
Also, the quoted tweet conflates the State of Israel with "The Jews", which:
a) Higgins didn't do.
And
b) Explicitly breaches the Anti-Semitism definition that you think everyone should sign up to.
So, should Aviva Klompas apologise for either misrepresenting Higgins, or for use of an Anti-Semitic trope? | | | |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 22:05 - Sep 24 with 2693 views | GlasgowBlue |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 21:46 - Sep 24 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Not your best post.
A democratically elected President has accountability.
Just make your point about Higgins' weird comment and leave it at that!
Also, the quoted tweet conflates the State of Israel with "The Jews", which:
a) Higgins didn't do.
And
b) Explicitly breaches the Anti-Semitism definition that you think everyone should sign up to.
So, should Aviva Klompas apologise for either misrepresenting Higgins, or for use of an Anti-Semitic trope? |
You know exactly what point Aviva Klompas is making. She hasn't misrepresented him in the slightest. Higgins had zero proof that the Israeli embassy had leaked his fawning letter to the Iranian President. It was a baseless lie that just played into the millenia old trope of untrustworthy and mendacious Jews. Why single out Israel as the country who leaked his letter? He's a bigot.
Regarding you final point, are you really comfortable accusing a Jewish woman of using an anti semitic trope?
It still amazes me that some on here come to the defence of people using anti semitic tropes by trying to discredit Jewish people who are highlighting their use.
edit. And your phrase "Anti-Semitism definition that you think everyone should sign up to" is disingenuous. You know full well that the UK government has adopted the IHRA definition, along with all member states of the EU and other western democracies. It's not some vague definition that I want people to sign up to. Oh and it's antisemitism, not anti-semitism.
https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/spelling-antisemitism [Post edited 24 Sep 2024 22:28]
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 22:34 - Sep 24 with 2589 views | Churchman |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 20:08 - Sep 24 by Ryorry |
The “wisdom” of voters who gave us President T.rump once - and might do so again, not to mention Brassneck Johnson, tells against your theory. Oliver Cromwell was hardly a cuddly, wise or peaceable leader either. |
Harsh downvote but hey ho.
It’s the principle for me. No, Cromwell was right to oppose Charles and for Parliament to bring him to account even if the trial was a bit of a farce. Then the miserable s0d cancelled Christmas and all things fun (Puritanism).
Olly was a really good military commander though, if a rather brutal one (e.g. awful by the standards of the day Ireland suppression). There was no real succession planning and the term ‘Lord Protector’ had a ring of new royalty about it. He son was a useless wet wipe, hence the political vacuum leading to the Restoration and Cromwell’s head finishing on a spike outside the Great Hall - until it blew down one stormy night.
But Charlie 1 still had to go. He believed in the devine right of kings etc. I do not any more than I believe a head of state should be born, not elected regardless of how many nut jobs wind up with the job. | | | |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 08:11 - Sep 25 with 2298 views | Pendejo |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 18:49 - Sep 24 by GlasgowBlue |
It gets worse. Not content with the Irish President indulging in antisemitic conspiracy theories, a journalist on mainstream Irish media talks of a "global Jewish lobby".
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I feel this quote appropriate
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didn't exist."
I know not whether the news man's phrase is true or not or completely fabricated, I mean it's usually Israel + USA v The World isn't it?
But many problems in this world involved American "interference" , again true or not or fabricated to pursue an agenda.
Back to the original point; if Israel has leaked a private (?) letter to another head of state, that would imply a deep penetration of the Iranian state, wouldn't it?
This with the wacky world of exploding devices may also imply the "asset" has been safely extracted (best case scenario), cos if not...
If it was just the Iranians saying "look someone likes us" then get why not? |  |
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 08:38 - Sep 25 with 2248 views | DJR |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 20:08 - Sep 24 by Ryorry |
The “wisdom” of voters who gave us President T.rump once - and might do so again, not to mention Brassneck Johnson, tells against your theory. Oliver Cromwell was hardly a cuddly, wise or peaceable leader either. |
In the very unlikely event of the UK ever removing the monarchy, we wouldn't be opting for a presidential system a la France or the US, where the President has actual power.
Instead, we would be a Parliamentary republic with a ceremonial head of state/President.
Such systems have different ways of appointing the President, such as two-thirds of the Parliament or direct elections with more than one round.
It seems to me therefore that sufficient safeguards could be put in place to ensure a consensual candidate was aways elected, a person who would act in a non-partisan way along the lines of the Speaker, but not John Bercow who wouldn't make the ballot. [Post edited 25 Sep 2024 8:54]
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| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 09:05 - Sep 25 with 2182 views | Pinewoodblue |
| For those posters who would prefer a President as head of state on 08:38 - Sep 25 by DJR |
In the very unlikely event of the UK ever removing the monarchy, we wouldn't be opting for a presidential system a la France or the US, where the President has actual power.
Instead, we would be a Parliamentary republic with a ceremonial head of state/President.
Such systems have different ways of appointing the President, such as two-thirds of the Parliament or direct elections with more than one round.
It seems to me therefore that sufficient safeguards could be put in place to ensure a consensual candidate was aways elected, a person who would act in a non-partisan way along the lines of the Speaker, but not John Bercow who wouldn't make the ballot. [Post edited 25 Sep 2024 8:54]
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The Irish system of electing a President is quite complex. You need your nomination endorsed by a relatively high number of elected politicians and two Counties.
They also have strict rules in expenses. You only get them refunded in full by the state if you receive something like 25% of the vote. In recent times Presidents have been re-elected unopposed.
Sorry for being vague on numbers but too lazy to Google. Once had the system explained to me by an Irish Republican. |  |
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