| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. 13:32 - Nov 20 with 33354 views | OldFart71 |
Inflation up and rising. Costs to businesses up. Energy prices going up again in January. Not long ago I paid £68 per month for gas and electricity. In the winter I was able to have my heating on 1-1.1/2 hours in the morning, then again 3 p.m. to 8 p.m. I now pay £85 per month (Just increased by my supplier) and I have it on for two hours at night. Absolutely bonkers. Whilst I admit and I was just as p*ssed off as most people with the Tories, Labour have steam rollered in like a bull in a china shop and now costs are and will keep increasing by more than they needed to. Companies will cut costs by cutting hours or even laying people off. Will put prices up whilst giving lower wage increases. This in turn will lead to workers striking for higher pay. There's a saying "You can't burn the candle at both ends" Labour are trying to put all the ills made by the previous Government in one go. It is too much all at once and is already leading to many sections of our community taking to the streets or totally feed up with a Party that has only been in power a few months. |  | | |  |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:15 - Nov 21 with 1979 views | keighleyblue |
silly post. Get on the div list. |  | | |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:20 - Nov 21 with 1960 views | WeWereZombies |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:11 - Nov 21 by Zapers |
No, spoken like a businessman.
You see flasher, that's the point of running a business, to make money. |
And one function that a consumer can perform is to push back against price increases. Whether that be searching for alternatives (and sometimes finding a better solution in the process) or buying less, maybe buying from a different supplier etc. Unfortunately the Home countries seem to perform less well than some other nations in my experience, but I suppose that leaves room for improvement.
So putting up prices comes with a risk of losing turnover, absorbing costs might cause an initial hit to profits but a long term benefit of stable turnover if customers stay loyal, even increased turnover if competitors go to the wall and the company gets a proportion of their sales. |  |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:23 - Nov 21 with 1952 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:11 - Nov 21 by Zapers |
No, spoken like a businessman.
You see flasher, that's the point of running a business, to make money. |
No, an unethical businessman. And that is why we're fundamentally different people. The fact that you think the only point of running a business is to make money says it all. Me, me, me. The typical Tory attitude. |  |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:41 - Nov 21 with 1915 views | NthQldITFC |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 07:59 - Nov 21 by Zapers |
When I was involved with a medium size company in the UK, any opportunity like this we would take advantage of to increase our prices.
I don’t expect much has changed since then. |
You sound proud of that. Disgusting. |  |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:41 - Nov 21 with 1915 views | Leaky |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 16:25 - Nov 20 by Swansea_Blue |
It's a bit too much to expect them to turn everything around in 6 months; and I don't think it's right to say they're tackling everything at once. They've barely started on some areas (e.g. education, council budgets and plenty more). There's just a LOT that's been disinvested in over a long period of time. The UK is like Towen were under Evans. Maybe Gamechanger could help Labour sort it all about, I'm sure Ashton would like a crack at being PM. |
The problem being we havn't got a political version of Gmechanger comming in we have Marcus Evans version 2, after getting rid of Marcus Evans 1. |  | | |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:45 - Nov 21 with 1896 views | Zapers |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:23 - Nov 21 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No, an unethical businessman. And that is why we're fundamentally different people. The fact that you think the only point of running a business is to make money says it all. Me, me, me. The typical Tory attitude. |
Hahahaha ODG!! | | | |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:48 - Nov 21 with 1901 views | blueasfook |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:23 - Nov 21 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No, an unethical businessman. And that is why we're fundamentally different people. The fact that you think the only point of running a business is to make money says it all. Me, me, me. The typical Tory attitude. |
Why else would you run a business? Businesses have to remain profitable to stay afloat. If costs increase, then a business needs to make adjustments to counter those costs. Be it by making job cuts or increasing prices to the customer. |  |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:00 - Nov 21 with 1884 views | Dubtractor |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:41 - Nov 21 by NthQldITFC |
You sound proud of that. Disgusting. |
I think you and flashers are playing the man not the ball here.
Zapers is a bit of a bell, but their comments here aren't that controversial really. Businesses exist to make money, if something happens that makes them make less money, they will try and fill that gap somehow. That principle is the same for small businesses trying to cover costs, or big businesses keeping shareholders happy.
And I say that as someone who is broadly supportive of what Labour are trying to do. [Post edited 21 Nov 2024 10:02]
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:02 - Nov 21 with 1876 views | leitrimblue |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:23 - Nov 21 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No, an unethical businessman. And that is why we're fundamentally different people. The fact that you think the only point of running a business is to make money says it all. Me, me, me. The typical Tory attitude. |
There's no point in running a business if yer not gonna make money though Flash. You have to provide for yer family and the families of yer employees.
That said a well run successful business probably wouldn't need to take advantage of the situation.
The other bonus of capitalism is if Zapers puts his prices up you have the option not to give him your custom and buy yer hot dog from an alternative stall  |  | | |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:02 - Nov 21 with 1872 views | J2BLUE |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:00 - Nov 21 by Dubtractor |
I think you and flashers are playing the man not the ball here.
Zapers is a bit of a bell, but their comments here aren't that controversial really. Businesses exist to make money, if something happens that makes them make less money, they will try and fill that gap somehow. That principle is the same for small businesses trying to cover costs, or big businesses keeping shareholders happy.
And I say that as someone who is broadly supportive of what Labour are trying to do. [Post edited 21 Nov 2024 10:02]
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Agree, we saw all of the supermarkets putting prices up by much more than the rates of inflation in the last couple of years.
The only good thing is they have mostly given their staff decent pay rises. |  |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:03 - Nov 21 with 1873 views | WeWereZombies |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:48 - Nov 21 by blueasfook |
Why else would you run a business? Businesses have to remain profitable to stay afloat. If costs increase, then a business needs to make adjustments to counter those costs. Be it by making job cuts or increasing prices to the customer. |
Or running with a little less profit for a while until they can pick up increased turnover from their more competitive pricing, find internal cost efficiencies, make the improvements that they know they should have made a while ago, do away with the cost of unnecessary meetings, stop employees wasting their time on football forums...OK, I know I've gone too far now. | |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:07 - Nov 21 with 1853 views | Blueschev |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 23:14 - Nov 20 by Lord_Lucan |
Labour have only just got in so you never know, they might turn things around. I'm a normal Tory voter but you have to admit Tory HQ was rancid at the end. I'm hoping they will do a Blair mark 1.
Hooever - I don't think they have the gumption? Blair was a smooth operator with a good team around him.
Gotta say though, on the face of the first few months I'm not sure. We are only a little in to the first shift but in my opinion they have made some really bad moves.
Minimum wage was generous as it was but when it goes up we are in the crazy situation where a minimum wage person doing 40 hours a week will be on £25k a year. WTF?????? I'm sorry to tell you this but some people are not worth £25k a year.
Plus - employers NI raise????
Now, I know some on here live in a dreamworld but these two things are going to have a catastrophic impact and lead to massive problems for average joe.
We are a very small company, tiny in fact. Thing is we can't accept this. We only employ a handful of people but we are going to have to get rid of one in January. |
I've calculated that the NI increase will cost my business around 15k a year, which whilst not insignificant, wont be enough to put anybody's job in jeopardy. It will also have zero impact on my personal finances or standard of living, which is why I think it's is preferable to raising income tax on employees, many of whom are struggling as it is.
As for the minimum wage, I couldn't live on £11 an hour, why should I expect anybody else to be able to? |  | | |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:19 - Nov 21 with 1811 views | Zapers |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:02 - Nov 21 by leitrimblue |
There's no point in running a business if yer not gonna make money though Flash. You have to provide for yer family and the families of yer employees.
That said a well run successful business probably wouldn't need to take advantage of the situation.
The other bonus of capitalism is if Zapers puts his prices up you have the option not to give him your custom and buy yer hot dog from an alternative stall |
A well run successful business always takes advantage of every opportunity.
Trust me, we sold a lot of hot dogs! | | | |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:23 - Nov 21 with 1809 views | leitrimblue |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:19 - Nov 21 by Zapers |
A well run successful business always takes advantage of every opportunity.
Trust me, we sold a lot of hot dogs! |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:55 - Nov 21 with 1717 views | NthQldITFC |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:00 - Nov 21 by Dubtractor |
I think you and flashers are playing the man not the ball here.
Zapers is a bit of a bell, but their comments here aren't that controversial really. Businesses exist to make money, if something happens that makes them make less money, they will try and fill that gap somehow. That principle is the same for small businesses trying to cover costs, or big businesses keeping shareholders happy.
And I say that as someone who is broadly supportive of what Labour are trying to do. [Post edited 21 Nov 2024 10:02]
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You make a fair point, but the sentiment behind my response holds true. I think I've cleared the ball and deliberately followed through, so I'll take the yellow and carry on in the same manner, but with Morsy-esque self control until we're safe. | |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 11:08 - Nov 21 with 1690 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:07 - Nov 21 by Blueschev |
I've calculated that the NI increase will cost my business around 15k a year, which whilst not insignificant, wont be enough to put anybody's job in jeopardy. It will also have zero impact on my personal finances or standard of living, which is why I think it's is preferable to raising income tax on employees, many of whom are struggling as it is.
As for the minimum wage, I couldn't live on £11 an hour, why should I expect anybody else to be able to? |
I've been thinking about this overnight.
I'm still going to get rid of the hippy but I'm replacing him and the replacement will be on a lot more than minimum wage - but he is capable of doing things that the hippy can't.
So- my conclusion is, the most unskilled and general odd bods will be the most affected.
The more I think about it I wonder why I didn't do this before. |  |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 11:12 - Nov 21 with 1670 views | J2BLUE |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 11:08 - Nov 21 by Lord_Lucan |
I've been thinking about this overnight.
I'm still going to get rid of the hippy but I'm replacing him and the replacement will be on a lot more than minimum wage - but he is capable of doing things that the hippy can't.
So- my conclusion is, the most unskilled and general odd bods will be the most affected.
The more I think about it I wonder why I didn't do this before. |
My consultancy fee is £1999 plus VAT. | |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:06 - Nov 21 with 1584 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 09:48 - Nov 21 by blueasfook |
Why else would you run a business? Businesses have to remain profitable to stay afloat. If costs increase, then a business needs to make adjustments to counter those costs. Be it by making job cuts or increasing prices to the customer. |
Lady Dollers works for a business that doesn't make a profit. It's a not-for-profit charity. But anyway, I didn't say businesses shouldn't be profitable. I said making money isn't the sole reason for running a business. | |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:08 - Nov 21 with 1576 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:00 - Nov 21 by Dubtractor |
I think you and flashers are playing the man not the ball here.
Zapers is a bit of a bell, but their comments here aren't that controversial really. Businesses exist to make money, if something happens that makes them make less money, they will try and fill that gap somehow. That principle is the same for small businesses trying to cover costs, or big businesses keeping shareholders happy.
And I say that as someone who is broadly supportive of what Labour are trying to do. [Post edited 21 Nov 2024 10:02]
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You've also failed to read properly what I said. I said making money isn't the only point of running a business. | |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:10 - Nov 21 with 1570 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 10:02 - Nov 21 by leitrimblue |
There's no point in running a business if yer not gonna make money though Flash. You have to provide for yer family and the families of yer employees.
That said a well run successful business probably wouldn't need to take advantage of the situation.
The other bonus of capitalism is if Zapers puts his prices up you have the option not to give him your custom and buy yer hot dog from an alternative stall |
Where have I said anyone should run a business that doesn't make money? | |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:21 - Nov 21 with 1519 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:06 - Nov 21 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Lady Dollers works for a business that doesn't make a profit. It's a not-for-profit charity. But anyway, I didn't say businesses shouldn't be profitable. I said making money isn't the sole reason for running a business. |
Depends on your own definition of what a business is that Flash
You've said yourself it's a not for profit charity, so for me that's not a business, it's specifically a charity, same as with a non profit organisation.
Actual Businesses are those put together to make profit and only profit and it's sole purpose is to make money.
BTW there is no right or wrong with this one as it's personal choice on how you define businesses v charities etc. [Post edited 21 Nov 2024 12:24]
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:29 - Nov 21 with 1468 views | Zapers |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:06 - Nov 21 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Lady Dollers works for a business that doesn't make a profit. It's a not-for-profit charity. But anyway, I didn't say businesses shouldn't be profitable. I said making money isn't the sole reason for running a business. |
Please educate me with your vast knowledge in running a business.
In your opinion, making money is not the sole reason for running a business.
What are the other reasons? | | | |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:53 - Nov 21 with 1423 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:29 - Nov 21 by Zapers |
Please educate me with your vast knowledge in running a business.
In your opinion, making money is not the sole reason for running a business.
What are the other reasons? |
hahaha. This again shows what a Tory you are.
There are loads of reasons.
The freedom to do your own thing, not simply serving others.
Turning something you love into your livelihood.
There are many businesses that do good in the world (as well as turning a profit).
Making your mark on the world.
Creating jobs for others.
That's just off the top of my head, there are probably many more. The fact that you only know about making money and nothing else speaks volumes. | |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:54 - Nov 21 with 1420 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:21 - Nov 21 by FrimleyBlue |
Depends on your own definition of what a business is that Flash
You've said yourself it's a not for profit charity, so for me that's not a business, it's specifically a charity, same as with a non profit organisation.
Actual Businesses are those put together to make profit and only profit and it's sole purpose is to make money.
BTW there is no right or wrong with this one as it's personal choice on how you define businesses v charities etc. [Post edited 21 Nov 2024 12:24]
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You've stumbled into something you don't understand again. Of course charities are businesses! | |
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| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:58 - Nov 21 with 1402 views | giant_stow |
| Good Old Labour increasing the price of everything. on 12:54 - Nov 21 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You've stumbled into something you don't understand again. Of course charities are businesses! |
Think you might have just added 2 or 3 pages to the thread there. Keep it clean everyone. |  |
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