| Gutted for Hirst. 13:54 - Nov 22 with 4231 views | SitfcB |
Very bad luck ffs. |  |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 13:59 - Nov 22 with 3488 views | Illinoisblue |
Is our Iraqi Prince fit and ready for action? Seems like he’s been kinda somewhat injured ever since we bought him. |  |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:04 - Nov 22 with 3397 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Really can't catch a break. Looked like he was finding his feet too. |  |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:09 - Nov 22 with 3323 views | Bellevue_Blue |
He's already shown he's PL quality as well.
The drop off to AAH is huge. You could see that when he cam back into the squad both last season and this season to some extent.
We can only hope we're talking about 4 weeks and he's back late December.
Fingers crossed Delap can make it through 90 odd mins tomorrow. |  | | |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:12 - Nov 22 with 3261 views | Ryorry |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:09 - Nov 22 by Bellevue_Blue |
He's already shown he's PL quality as well.
The drop off to AAH is huge. You could see that when he cam back into the squad both last season and this season to some extent.
We can only hope we're talking about 4 weeks and he's back late December.
Fingers crossed Delap can make it through 90 odd mins tomorrow. |
Really hope Delap doesn't go for 90 mins at match intensity tomorrow! |  |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:22 - Nov 22 with 3146 views | tazdac |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:12 - Nov 22 by Ryorry |
Really hope Delap doesn't go for 90 mins at match intensity tomorrow! |
Especially as he’d have to do it again Sunday ;o) | | | |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:22 - Nov 22 with 3138 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:09 - Nov 22 by Bellevue_Blue |
He's already shown he's PL quality as well.
The drop off to AAH is huge. You could see that when he cam back into the squad both last season and this season to some extent.
We can only hope we're talking about 4 weeks and he's back late December.
Fingers crossed Delap can make it through 90 odd mins tomorrow. |
I think it's a little Harsh and Al Hamadi. He's not got the quality yet to be a starter in the Prem. I'm sure of that. But he's an absolute menace coming on with his energy and he's got a knack for a goal. He's a player the opposition don't know and he won't give them an a minute and he has that natural knack of being in the right place. I'm very comfortable with him coming on with 20 to go and covering every blade.
Issue with Hirst being out is a) he has quality to start games and give Delap a rest. B) he is better than Al Hamadi of course even coming on and could do longer stints c) more flexible I'm terms of being suited to see games out as well as trying to win a game.
It's a blow but every team will have them. | |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:23 - Nov 22 with 3120 views | tonybied |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:09 - Nov 22 by Bellevue_Blue |
He's already shown he's PL quality as well.
The drop off to AAH is huge. You could see that when he cam back into the squad both last season and this season to some extent.
We can only hope we're talking about 4 weeks and he's back late December.
Fingers crossed Delap can make it through 90 odd mins tomorrow. |
That's a bit unfair on Ali, he's not been 100% fit since we signed him. Hopefully that's behind him now and he can step up.
There's a player in there, he could do with a run of games. It's a shame for him that we didn't get another striker over the line before the window closed, then he could've got a loan to a Championship team for some good experience. |  | | |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:29 - Nov 22 with 3021 views | Clutch |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:23 - Nov 22 by tonybied |
That's a bit unfair on Ali, he's not been 100% fit since we signed him. Hopefully that's behind him now and he can step up.
There's a player in there, he could do with a run of games. It's a shame for him that we didn't get another striker over the line before the window closed, then he could've got a loan to a Championship team for some good experience. |
Is he 100% fit now?
Not surprised about Hirst, I was surprised when he stayed on after it happened though. |  | | |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:29 - Nov 22 with 3009 views | victorysquad |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:23 - Nov 22 by tonybied |
That's a bit unfair on Ali, he's not been 100% fit since we signed him. Hopefully that's behind him now and he can step up.
There's a player in there, he could do with a run of games. It's a shame for him that we didn't get another striker over the line before the window closed, then he could've got a loan to a Championship team for some good experience. |
Agreed, lets face it, that number 9 role is largely to run hard and make a nuisance of yourself. If Delap can do 70 mins, Ali is perfectly capable of coming on for the final 20 and giving them something to think about. He is also perfectly capable of scoring too. | |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:37 - Nov 22 with 2882 views | NthQldITFC |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:29 - Nov 22 by victorysquad |
Agreed, lets face it, that number 9 role is largely to run hard and make a nuisance of yourself. If Delap can do 70 mins, Ali is perfectly capable of coming on for the final 20 and giving them something to think about. He is also perfectly capable of scoring too. |
Agree with that. You'd like a but more guile off the bench ideally, but he'll certainly put himself about. If the supporting forwards play a bit closer to him looking for loose balls rather than perfect lay offs, he can still cause damage. [Post edited 22 Nov 2024 14:37]
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:27 - Nov 22 with 2560 views | BloomBlue |
It is but all teams will get injuries. In Palace last game they had to start the game with Guehi in midfield instead of his normal CH position and a youngster playing his first game because of injuries.
We may need to tweak formation during a game, maybe leave Delap on but play AAH along side him in a 4-4-2 for the last 15-20mins |  | | |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:27 - Nov 22 with 2558 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:22 - Nov 22 by Nutkins_Return |
I think it's a little Harsh and Al Hamadi. He's not got the quality yet to be a starter in the Prem. I'm sure of that. But he's an absolute menace coming on with his energy and he's got a knack for a goal. He's a player the opposition don't know and he won't give them an a minute and he has that natural knack of being in the right place. I'm very comfortable with him coming on with 20 to go and covering every blade.
Issue with Hirst being out is a) he has quality to start games and give Delap a rest. B) he is better than Al Hamadi of course even coming on and could do longer stints c) more flexible I'm terms of being suited to see games out as well as trying to win a game.
It's a blow but every team will have them. |
Unless he improves from his early season sub appearences then you may aswell keep him on the bench.
He's still injured. Can't run at full speed. So pointless to be involved imo.
I do look forward to seeing him in the future future Tho. But do feel he's more of a player trading purchase than one we will see much of. [Post edited 22 Nov 2024 15:29]
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:29 - Nov 22 with 2554 views | SheffordBlue |
He's definitely in the 'unlucky' with injuries group for me rather than being injury prone at the minute. Both the hamstring and this knee injury were down to landing awkwardly/slipping rather than anything else. | |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:29 - Nov 22 with 2547 views | DarkBrandon |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:29 - Nov 22 by victorysquad |
Agreed, lets face it, that number 9 role is largely to run hard and make a nuisance of yourself. If Delap can do 70 mins, Ali is perfectly capable of coming on for the final 20 and giving them something to think about. He is also perfectly capable of scoring too. |
I think you are underestimating how tough that role is and how good both Delap and Hirst are.
Now AAH may be able to step up, but it is a big ask and I’m sure we weren’t expecting to be relying on him.
Still, good opportunity for the lad. Let’s hope he seizes it |  | | |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:30 - Nov 22 with 2542 views | Hackneyblueboy |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:27 - Nov 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Unless he improves from his early season sub appearences then you may aswell keep him on the bench.
He's still injured. Can't run at full speed. So pointless to be involved imo.
I do look forward to seeing him in the future future Tho. But do feel he's more of a player trading purchase than one we will see much of. [Post edited 22 Nov 2024 15:29]
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Did Smzodics operate as a striker last season for Blackburn? We really are bare in terms of options for resting Delap if needs be, even if its 10 mins or so per game.
Smzodics would be the only option I guess. Not a great place to be in but hopefully Delap can get us through to January when either Hirst is fit and/or we have another striker in the building. | | | |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:33 - Nov 22 with 2514 views | Dubtractor |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:27 - Nov 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Unless he improves from his early season sub appearences then you may aswell keep him on the bench.
He's still injured. Can't run at full speed. So pointless to be involved imo.
I do look forward to seeing him in the future future Tho. But do feel he's more of a player trading purchase than one we will see much of. [Post edited 22 Nov 2024 15:29]
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McKenna on Al Hamadi.
"Ali Al-Hamadi wasn’t involved with Iraq during the international break but McKenna says the striker is fine with Hirst’s absence presenting the ex-Wimbledon man with an opportunity
“Ali’s OK, I haven’t spoken to him too much about his situation with his national team because he’s only just returned,” McKenna continued.
“But he’s good, he’s been training well, I have to say. He’s been training with a real good application, real team focus, trying to help the group over the last few weeks and when people are like that, you always feel like you’re itching for them to get their opportunity.
“And I think we’ve got nine games between Man United on Sunday and Fulham on 5th January, so I’m pretty sure Ali’s going to have a big part to play in those games.
“He’s been working hard for that opportunity, so I’m sure he’ll give a good account of himself.”
If we're asking him to come on for 15/20 minutes to carry out the press and provide a bit of an outlet he's fine, of course it's a big drop off, but he can do a job. I'd be more concerned if we were relying on him to start as that is a much bigger ask. |  |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:52 - Nov 22 with 2401 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 14:22 - Nov 22 by Nutkins_Return |
I think it's a little Harsh and Al Hamadi. He's not got the quality yet to be a starter in the Prem. I'm sure of that. But he's an absolute menace coming on with his energy and he's got a knack for a goal. He's a player the opposition don't know and he won't give them an a minute and he has that natural knack of being in the right place. I'm very comfortable with him coming on with 20 to go and covering every blade.
Issue with Hirst being out is a) he has quality to start games and give Delap a rest. B) he is better than Al Hamadi of course even coming on and could do longer stints c) more flexible I'm terms of being suited to see games out as well as trying to win a game.
It's a blow but every team will have them. |
Al-Hamadi was playing in L2 this time last year, it was always going to be a monumental step up to the Championship, but to have to make it to the Premier league is insane. Its hard enough for seasoned Championship players to make that jump let alone youngsters who are relatively wet behind the ears like Ali.
He did alright last season after coming in IMO, chipped in with a few goals, nothing spectacular but showed a knack for being in the right place which is a valuable instinct. I remember back to that late season game he started at home to Boro when big Kieffer wasn't fit to start and thought he did so well in that. Clearly ran out of steam after an hour but really didn't look out of place against good opposition.
I make you right, he's clearly not a player you want to start 38 games this season, he's no Delap and no Hirst either yet, but he's not become a bad prospect over night. He's shown some promise and needs backing. |  | | |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:54 - Nov 22 with 2374 views | Illinoisblue |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:29 - Nov 22 by SheffordBlue |
He's definitely in the 'unlucky' with injuries group for me rather than being injury prone at the minute. Both the hamstring and this knee injury were down to landing awkwardly/slipping rather than anything else. |
Is there any difference? | |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 16:05 - Nov 22 with 2303 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:27 - Nov 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Unless he improves from his early season sub appearences then you may aswell keep him on the bench.
He's still injured. Can't run at full speed. So pointless to be involved imo.
I do look forward to seeing him in the future future Tho. But do feel he's more of a player trading purchase than one we will see much of. [Post edited 22 Nov 2024 15:29]
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'Early season form' lol. He's played about half an hour of league football this season to be fair to the lad. Half of which when 2-0 down to Liverpool, and most of the rest coming on in the 80 something minute when 3-1 down at the Etihad. | | | |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 16:09 - Nov 22 with 2269 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:30 - Nov 22 by Hackneyblueboy |
Did Smzodics operate as a striker last season for Blackburn? We really are bare in terms of options for resting Delap if needs be, even if its 10 mins or so per game.
Smzodics would be the only option I guess. Not a great place to be in but hopefully Delap can get us through to January when either Hirst is fit and/or we have another striker in the building. |
The only problem with that is ideally we want Szmodics starting as well, which means he'll also have run his race in the 2nd half, so he doesn't really offer cover for the role in game. Unless Clarke comes in and Szmodics is on the bench, but I don't like the idea of that. | | | |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 16:33 - Nov 22 with 2081 views | Garv |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 16:09 - Nov 22 by _clive_baker_ |
The only problem with that is ideally we want Szmodics starting as well, which means he'll also have run his race in the 2nd half, so he doesn't really offer cover for the role in game. Unless Clarke comes in and Szmodics is on the bench, but I don't like the idea of that. |
I'm confused why everyone is so sure Szmodics is first choice for the left sided spot, is it just because he scored at Spurs?
I actually think it's more likely Clarke comes back in, McKenna will want to get some form into him and I think he suits the team better at home - he just doesn't have the goal threat Szmodics does - but it's not like the latter has shown loads of threat in our home games. |  |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 16:46 - Nov 22 with 2035 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:33 - Nov 22 by Dubtractor |
McKenna on Al Hamadi.
"Ali Al-Hamadi wasn’t involved with Iraq during the international break but McKenna says the striker is fine with Hirst’s absence presenting the ex-Wimbledon man with an opportunity
“Ali’s OK, I haven’t spoken to him too much about his situation with his national team because he’s only just returned,” McKenna continued.
“But he’s good, he’s been training well, I have to say. He’s been training with a real good application, real team focus, trying to help the group over the last few weeks and when people are like that, you always feel like you’re itching for them to get their opportunity.
“And I think we’ve got nine games between Man United on Sunday and Fulham on 5th January, so I’m pretty sure Ali’s going to have a big part to play in those games.
“He’s been working hard for that opportunity, so I’m sure he’ll give a good account of himself.”
If we're asking him to come on for 15/20 minutes to carry out the press and provide a bit of an outlet he's fine, of course it's a big drop off, but he can do a job. I'd be more concerned if we were relying on him to start as that is a much bigger ask. |
Totally understand why we didn't keep him but honestly keeping on Kayden Jackson as a squad option would've been something i would have done for these exact situations. Someone who knows the system inside and out and can contribute. Shame. | |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 16:48 - Nov 22 with 2029 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 16:33 - Nov 22 by Garv |
I'm confused why everyone is so sure Szmodics is first choice for the left sided spot, is it just because he scored at Spurs?
I actually think it's more likely Clarke comes back in, McKenna will want to get some form into him and I think he suits the team better at home - he just doesn't have the goal threat Szmodics does - but it's not like the latter has shown loads of threat in our home games. |
We need to make it a really high intensity game. Press hard from the front, force errors. That is Szmodics game. I think he has looked miles better than Clarke so far to be honest and a better fit in our system as his instinct is to make those runs beyond Delap and give Davis the whole left side to play in. | | | |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 16:52 - Nov 22 with 2016 views | SheffordBlue |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 15:54 - Nov 22 by Illinoisblue |
Is there any difference? |
I think everyone tends to get lumped into one bucket but there are probably different categories with different longer term outlooks. E.g:
1) Player suffers a serious injury and then has a reoccurrence of that injury on several occasions.
2) Player suffers lots of similar injuries that suggest an underlying problem - I think TJJ was probably in this bracket.
3) Player picks up a number of different injuries in circumstances which anyone would have probably incurred the same injury.
The long term prognosis for those in groups 1 and 2 are probably worse than someone in 3. The only worry with some in 3 is that one of their injuries ends up meaning that they end up in group 1 as well.
At the minute i think Hirst has just been a bit unlucky. Hopefully none of the injuries he has incurred cause him longer term problems and hopefully his luck changes. | |
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| Gutted for Hirst. on 16:56 - Nov 22 with 1986 views | NthQldITFC |
| Gutted for Hirst. on 16:48 - Nov 22 by tractorboy1978 |
We need to make it a really high intensity game. Press hard from the front, force errors. That is Szmodics game. I think he has looked miles better than Clarke so far to be honest and a better fit in our system as his instinct is to make those runs beyond Delap and give Davis the whole left side to play in. |
I agree with that. Szmodics, as well as being more experienced, fits straight into our system perfectly. Clarke has to be repurposed for us a little bit, which I'm sure is what the master craftsman has been doing. | |
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