| Will our captain 19:59 - Nov 29 with 12799 views | chicoazul |
be wearing rainbow laces or the armband this weekend? |  |
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| Will our captain on 20:00 - Nov 29 with 5572 views | waveneyblue |
And here we go........ |  | | |
| Will our captain on 20:17 - Nov 29 with 5477 views | Zx1988 |
Already discussed.
You already know the answer.
Stop fishing. |  |
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| Will our captain on 20:20 - Nov 29 with 5447 views | chicoazul |
| Will our captain on 20:17 - Nov 29 by Zx1988 |
Already discussed.
You already know the answer.
Stop fishing. |
I don’t know the answer, do you?
TWTD endlessly fascinates in turning its’ face away from uncomfortable issues with accusations of trolling. Perhaps there’s a German word for this phenomenon. | |
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| Will our captain on 20:23 - Nov 29 with 5413 views | Swansea_Blue |
If it was a poll, I’d be choosing the ‘who gives a monkey’s’ option. |  |
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| Will our captain on 20:23 - Nov 29 with 5413 views | Crow77 |
Well that is up to him isn't it. we live in a free country | | | |
| Will our captain on 20:26 - Nov 29 with 5383 views | J2BLUE |
| Will our captain on 20:20 - Nov 29 by chicoazul |
I don’t know the answer, do you?
TWTD endlessly fascinates in turning its’ face away from uncomfortable issues with accusations of trolling. Perhaps there’s a German word for this phenomenon. |
You did this thread last year. You are just sh1t stirring. |  |
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| Will our captain on 20:27 - Nov 29 with 5375 views | RobTheMonk |
Probably not. Doesn't have to. Shouldn't have to. |  | | |
| Will our captain on 20:27 - Nov 29 with 5351 views | ITFC_Blood |
Hope not
He has no need to | |
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| Will our captain on 20:33 - Nov 29 with 5261 views | MattinLondon |
| Will our captain on 20:27 - Nov 29 by RobTheMonk |
Probably not. Doesn't have to. Shouldn't have to. |
I hope that he does but the easily offended will no doubt label it virtue signaling. |  | | |
| Will our captain on 20:43 - Nov 29 with 5181 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| Will our captain on 20:33 - Nov 29 by MattinLondon |
I hope that he does but the easily offended will no doubt label it virtue signaling. |
I think it's a shame that politics gets involved in sport altogether. Why should a whole team be coerced into making political statements as though individual choice is less important. Clearly it isn't. A person can chose to refrain from supporting a cause without being 'against it', 'anti', or 'phobic'
Just live and let live, people [Post edited 29 Nov 20:46]
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| Will our captain on 20:49 - Nov 29 with 5123 views | Jrm_72 |
My question is this:
What do you feel is the implied message in not wearing a rainbow?
I know what I take it to mean, but I'm openminded and curious as to others views are | | | |
| Will our captain on 20:52 - Nov 29 with 5096 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| Will our captain on 20:49 - Nov 29 by Jrm_72 |
My question is this:
What do you feel is the implied message in not wearing a rainbow?
I know what I take it to mean, but I'm openminded and curious as to others views are |
I think it means that you choose not to represent the LGBTQ community. It does not mean you are not compassionate and kind to people who identify with that cause.
I have not picked a side in the 'assisted dying ' debate. It doesn't mean I don't have compassion for those for or against the issue. It just means I choose not to engage in political posturing on a subject. Nothing more, nothing less.
I think social media has kind of forced people's hand when maybe they just don't want to pick a side. It's absolutely ok to feel neutral on a subject. [Post edited 29 Nov 20:55]
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| Will our captain on 21:00 - Nov 29 with 5017 views | Jrm_72 |
| Will our captain on 20:52 - Nov 29 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
I think it means that you choose not to represent the LGBTQ community. It does not mean you are not compassionate and kind to people who identify with that cause.
I have not picked a side in the 'assisted dying ' debate. It doesn't mean I don't have compassion for those for or against the issue. It just means I choose not to engage in political posturing on a subject. Nothing more, nothing less.
I think social media has kind of forced people's hand when maybe they just don't want to pick a side. It's absolutely ok to feel neutral on a subject. [Post edited 29 Nov 20:55]
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This was a great reply, thank you | | | |
| Will our captain on 21:00 - Nov 29 with 5015 views | Whos_blue |
I would rather he did, but I sadly accept he probably won't.
Still our best captain in years regardless.
The key thing is that his non wearing is not the indication of homophobia that the clickbait crew will be baying for. |  |
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| Will our chicoazul on 21:00 - Nov 29 with 5012 views | tonybied |
Post the same boring, attention seeking post again this time next year? |  | | |
| Will our captain on 21:02 - Nov 29 with 4994 views | Illinoisblue |
| Will our captain on 20:20 - Nov 29 by chicoazul |
I don’t know the answer, do you?
TWTD endlessly fascinates in turning its’ face away from uncomfortable issues with accusations of trolling. Perhaps there’s a German word for this phenomenon. |
Sounds like you’re the one endlessly fascinated by the issue. |  |
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| Will our captain on 21:02 - Nov 29 with 4994 views | SitfcB |
Who cares if he doesn’t?
His choice.
No big deal. |  |
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| Will our captain on 21:03 - Nov 29 with 4964 views | MattinLondon |
| Will our captain on 20:43 - Nov 29 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
I think it's a shame that politics gets involved in sport altogether. Why should a whole team be coerced into making political statements as though individual choice is less important. Clearly it isn't. A person can chose to refrain from supporting a cause without being 'against it', 'anti', or 'phobic'
Just live and let live, people [Post edited 29 Nov 20:46]
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Just live and let live - isn’t that the whole point off this to show support for all LGBT people.
It’s not politics , it’s just common decency. | | | |
| Will our captain on 21:04 - Nov 29 with 4958 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| Will our captain on 21:00 - Nov 29 by Whos_blue |
I would rather he did, but I sadly accept he probably won't.
Still our best captain in years regardless.
The key thing is that his non wearing is not the indication of homophobia that the clickbait crew will be baying for. |
Thing is, Morsy has never stepped out against these causes, he just quietly decides to be neutral. I think that is respectful and compassionate. Allow others to have their beliefs and lifestyles, but don't force others to accept what you believe and hold sacred. Isn't that what we all should be doing? Be kind, be respectful, and be free to hold your own, personal views, without harming others? | | | |
| Will our captain on 21:05 - Nov 29 with 4922 views | Whos_blue |
| Will our captain on 21:04 - Nov 29 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
Thing is, Morsy has never stepped out against these causes, he just quietly decides to be neutral. I think that is respectful and compassionate. Allow others to have their beliefs and lifestyles, but don't force others to accept what you believe and hold sacred. Isn't that what we all should be doing? Be kind, be respectful, and be free to hold your own, personal views, without harming others? |
Amen brother/sister. | |
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| Will our captain on 21:11 - Nov 29 with 4862 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| Will our captain on 21:03 - Nov 29 by MattinLondon |
Just live and let live - isn’t that the whole point off this to show support for all LGBT people.
It’s not politics , it’s just common decency. |
Live and let live. Surely that's allowing all human beings the entitlement to their own personal beliefs, as long as that doesn't hurt others? Sami doesn't hurt anyone by not voicing his opinion for or against. It's the perfectly respectful stance. | | | |
| That's not entirely true.... on 21:12 - Nov 29 with 4850 views | Bloots |
| Will our captain on 21:04 - Nov 29 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
Thing is, Morsy has never stepped out against these causes, he just quietly decides to be neutral. I think that is respectful and compassionate. Allow others to have their beliefs and lifestyles, but don't force others to accept what you believe and hold sacred. Isn't that what we all should be doing? Be kind, be respectful, and be free to hold your own, personal views, without harming others? |
....historically he has retweeted some fairly dodgy stuff in relation to this subject.
In fairness, not for a good while now though, as I suspect someone at the club has had a word with him. |  |
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| That's not entirely true.... on 21:19 - Nov 29 with 4790 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| That's not entirely true.... on 21:12 - Nov 29 by Bloots |
....historically he has retweeted some fairly dodgy stuff in relation to this subject.
In fairness, not for a good while now though, as I suspect someone at the club has had a word with him. |
I haven't seen any of that. So I can't comment. But I stand by my opinion that silent but respectful tolerance of something that you don't agree with morally, or have no opinion of, is totally ok.
You can love a human being and not love what they do or what they stand for. It's hard, in these days of excruciating social commentary to be ok with that, but a person who can be kind to a human being, no matter what, is more respected in my estimations than a person who demands a show of support for a cause and judges a person who can't give it, even if that person is kind and caring in their everyday life.
Did anyone notice Sam Morsy wearing headphones on the walk out on Sunday? He evidently had a mascot who was autistic and needed to wear headphones to cope with the crowd noise. So he chose to help her. He chose a cause to support.
The fact he might choose not to support a cause he doesn't align with, doesn't mean he isn't a decent human being who is prepared to go above and beyond. [Post edited 29 Nov 21:21]
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| Yeah, I don't disagree with.... on 21:23 - Nov 29 with 4745 views | Bloots |
| That's not entirely true.... on 21:19 - Nov 29 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
I haven't seen any of that. So I can't comment. But I stand by my opinion that silent but respectful tolerance of something that you don't agree with morally, or have no opinion of, is totally ok.
You can love a human being and not love what they do or what they stand for. It's hard, in these days of excruciating social commentary to be ok with that, but a person who can be kind to a human being, no matter what, is more respected in my estimations than a person who demands a show of support for a cause and judges a person who can't give it, even if that person is kind and caring in their everyday life.
Did anyone notice Sam Morsy wearing headphones on the walk out on Sunday? He evidently had a mascot who was autistic and needed to wear headphones to cope with the crowd noise. So he chose to help her. He chose a cause to support.
The fact he might choose not to support a cause he doesn't align with, doesn't mean he isn't a decent human being who is prepared to go above and beyond. [Post edited 29 Nov 21:21]
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...any of that.
But we need to be honest about things.
Anyway, lets move on. | |
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| Will our captain on 21:28 - Nov 29 with 4699 views | rkc123 |
I don't really have a problem if he doesn't wear the laces as that is an individual choice as others have said. I am not sure if they are doing the armband as well? I did have a problem with him not wearing that, as I think the captain is representing the club, and the club should be promoting a message of inclusion for all fans of the club, and I think our captain not wearing it does undermine any other positive actions the club take in that regard. [Post edited 29 Nov 21:34]
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