| Morsy 10:23 - Dec 9 with 2826 views | quad |
Faffed about 3 times and gave possession away during the game under little pressure. Each time led to Bournemouth attacks which could have resulted in goals.
Muric makes a poor judgement call and comes for a ball he doesn't get to which results in a goal.
Nobody says anything about Morsy's errors which could have cost us. But Muric gets absolute pelters.
#justsaying |  | | |  |
| Morsy on 10:26 - Dec 9 with 2381 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
I wonder whether teams have started targeting Morsy. |  |
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| Morsy on 10:31 - Dec 9 with 2353 views | pointofblue |
Same with O'Shea, who gave away the ball under little pressure more than one, resulting in Bournemouth attacks. | |
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| Morsy on 10:34 - Dec 9 with 2318 views | DanTheMan |
There were a few grumbles on here during the game around Morsy and frankly, I have to agree.
It wasn't his best game by some margin. I'd say overall during the season he's been pretty good.
We've been sloppy with the ball as a team the past few games, especially in the final third. |  |
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| Morsy on 10:37 - Dec 9 with 2300 views | quad |
| Morsy on 10:26 - Dec 9 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I wonder whether teams have started targeting Morsy. |
I think that he has a lot of self belief in his own ability, but is becoming guilty of becoming a bit too complacent. He's not being allowed to dictate everything the way he could in the Championship. Premier players are stronger and more savvy. | | | |
| Morsy on 10:39 - Dec 9 with 2284 views | bsw72 |
I thought we had long established the rules on here.
It's not cool to criticise any of the players who came up through the League 1 and Championship days, the blame has to lie with the new players who have come in.
I actually thought Morsy and Hutchinson were poorer yesterday than in recent matches, but I think they (and Davis) have become very much marked men - for good reason, as if the opposition close down these three players, our attacking intent is nullified. |  | | |
| Morsy on 10:40 - Dec 9 with 2265 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Morsy on 10:37 - Dec 9 by quad |
I think that he has a lot of self belief in his own ability, but is becoming guilty of becoming a bit too complacent. He's not being allowed to dictate everything the way he could in the Championship. Premier players are stronger and more savvy. |
They pounce on him, and are straight into transition. | |
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| Morsy on 10:42 - Dec 9 with 2245 views | JammyDodgerrr |
If Phillips can stay fit and we keep managing Cajuste properly, it wouldn't surprise me if we have a Phillips/Cajuste pivot by the end of the season. Everybody loves Sammy, but at some point i think McKenna will make that call. |  |
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| Morsy on 10:43 - Dec 9 with 2206 views | WeirdFishes |
We were all unhappy with Morsy’s performance yesterday and on Tuesday, both games felt it should have been him being the CM who was replaced.
It does feel like he is immune to being dropped/subbed. |  |
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| Morsy on 10:47 - Dec 9 with 2144 views | stonojnr |
| Morsy on 10:39 - Dec 9 by bsw72 |
I thought we had long established the rules on here.
It's not cool to criticise any of the players who came up through the League 1 and Championship days, the blame has to lie with the new players who have come in.
I actually thought Morsy and Hutchinson were poorer yesterday than in recent matches, but I think they (and Davis) have become very much marked men - for good reason, as if the opposition close down these three players, our attacking intent is nullified. |
Hutch gets two players on him whenever he has the ball and isn't Delap like in being able to barge them out of the way | | | |
| Morsy on 10:50 - Dec 9 with 2110 views | quad |
| Morsy on 10:40 - Dec 9 by Marshalls_Mullet |
They pounce on him, and are straight into transition. |
Yes, definitely. They know that we use him as our outlet because he can shield the ball well and retain possession. But he's getting caught out when he dallies on it too long. And like you said, when that happens they are straight into transition and it's putting our defence under a lot of pressure. | | | |
| Morsy on 10:50 - Dec 9 with 2108 views | FrimleyBlue |
Can't say anything about him as im told it makes it look like a burns repeat.
But, i've liked him alot this season, but feel his legs lately are gone |  |
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| Morsy on 10:50 - Dec 9 with 2108 views | urbanblue |
| Morsy on 10:42 - Dec 9 by JammyDodgerrr |
If Phillips can stay fit and we keep managing Cajuste properly, it wouldn't surprise me if we have a Phillips/Cajuste pivot by the end of the season. Everybody loves Sammy, but at some point i think McKenna will make that call. |
If Sam is still managing his play to avoid that 5th yellow he needs to just play his normal game and get it over with. It's the Premier League and we can't have anyone holding back. |  | | |
| Morsy on 10:50 - Dec 9 with 2108 views | homer_123 |
| Morsy on 10:26 - Dec 9 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I wonder whether teams have started targeting Morsy. |
He is def not getting as much time on the ball.
However, the issue yesterday was that at, IIRC, least two of those occasions - a pass wasn't on as either a run wasn't made or our players were well marked.
He turned and got caught. |  |
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| Morsy on 10:51 - Dec 9 with 2100 views | gsoly |
| Morsy on 10:43 - Dec 9 by WeirdFishes |
We were all unhappy with Morsy’s performance yesterday and on Tuesday, both games felt it should have been him being the CM who was replaced.
It does feel like he is immune to being dropped/subbed. |
The decision to not sub him yesterday was a strange one. Taylor looked very fit/bright throughout and Morsy really did have a shocker. One has to assume Phillips is far from match fit because to be an unused sub two games on the bounce hints at something fishy. |  | | |
| Morsy on 10:57 - Dec 9 with 2032 views | bsw72 |
| Morsy on 10:47 - Dec 9 by stonojnr |
Hutch gets two players on him whenever he has the ball and isn't Delap like in being able to barge them out of the way |
Exactly - so to get the most out of Hutchinson, he needs to receive the ball to draw in the players, lay it off quickly and run into space to get it back - however that is not what is happening as he is often too isolated, quality of pass is not good enough and all is compounded as the PL is quicker and oppo players are smarter/better than we have faced before.
He is usually successful in beating the first player but rarely both of them, similar to Delap.
The best player we have going forward is Szmodics as his movement is the most intelligent of all our current attacking players.
The fact is that our team has got some excellent ability and huge potential but a lot of it is yet to be realized, and you don't get the time to learn in the PL, | | | |
| Morsy on 11:00 - Dec 9 with 2015 views | quad |
| Morsy on 10:39 - Dec 9 by bsw72 |
I thought we had long established the rules on here.
It's not cool to criticise any of the players who came up through the League 1 and Championship days, the blame has to lie with the new players who have come in.
I actually thought Morsy and Hutchinson were poorer yesterday than in recent matches, but I think they (and Davis) have become very much marked men - for good reason, as if the opposition close down these three players, our attacking intent is nullified. |
I'm surprised at the response I've had to posting this. I was expecting to get a shed load of abuse to be honest lol.
You can imagine the Bournemouth manager saying to his players "Get tight on Morsy, Hutchinson and Davis, and don't let them play or influence the game too much. The others are all a bit crap so we don't need to double up on any of them!!"  | | | |
| Morsy on 11:06 - Dec 9 with 1974 views | Meadowlark |
I think we all noticed. He's been so good for so long that when he doesn't quite live up to the standards that he's set himself, it's glaringly obvious. Of course it doesn't make him an instantly bad player. Everyone, even Morsy, has an off-day occasionally. And generally, his play was as good as ever. Those three mistakes stood out. |  | | |
| Morsy on 11:09 - Dec 9 with 1950 views | Churchman |
I thought Morsy was under a lot of pressure most of the time. Yes, he’s being targeted in position and to try and get him carded. I didn’t think he was great yesterday, but our midfield as a whole got dominated after the first half hour. We just didn’t control the game. He was part of that but it wasn’t all down to him.
As for Hutchinson, Davis and Delap of course they were targeted. Our best players by a mile, why wouldn’t you? Hutchinson is a terrific player, getting stronger (threw off a defender Delap style once in the first half) but he does have two on him virtually the whole time. Same with Delap who had the added problem of a midfield miles off him at times. |  | | |
| Morsy on 11:12 - Dec 9 with 1919 views | GeoffSentence |
He slipped over once or twice giving possession away, the same happened to others as well, notably O'Shea from my memory. |  |
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| Morsy on 11:12 - Dec 9 with 1915 views | NedPlimpton |
| Morsy on 10:39 - Dec 9 by bsw72 |
I thought we had long established the rules on here.
It's not cool to criticise any of the players who came up through the League 1 and Championship days, the blame has to lie with the new players who have come in.
I actually thought Morsy and Hutchinson were poorer yesterday than in recent matches, but I think they (and Davis) have become very much marked men - for good reason, as if the opposition close down these three players, our attacking intent is nullified. |
I can't keep up. I thought it was ok to criticise Wes Burns but none of the other L1 players??
Friends who support other sides have definitely been flagging Morsy as a weak link of ours more and more recently. I do think when fully fit Cajuste is the 1st name on the team sheet for one of the 2 central places. Then it just depends which Kalvin Phillips we get for the remainder of the season, as I'm still not entirely sure! |  | | |
| Morsy on 11:13 - Dec 9 with 1898 views | stonojnr |
| Morsy on 10:31 - Dec 9 by pointofblue |
Same with O'Shea, who gave away the ball under little pressure more than one, resulting in Bournemouth attacks. |
OShea didn't make that many mistakes, we're not demanding perfection from our players.
But Morsy did play himself into trouble repeatedly during the game, once you might shrug it off, twice you kind of worry about it, after the third, fourth maybe even fifth time it's getting annoying. | | | |
| Morsy on 11:18 - Dec 9 with 1855 views | bsw72 |
| Morsy on 11:00 - Dec 9 by quad |
I'm surprised at the response I've had to posting this. I was expecting to get a shed load of abuse to be honest lol.
You can imagine the Bournemouth manager saying to his players "Get tight on Morsy, Hutchinson and Davis, and don't let them play or influence the game too much. The others are all a bit crap so we don't need to double up on any of them!!" |
People have a tendency to get very defensive over their favourite players - and like to be loyal to them. Maybe I am heartless or lack emotion, but I see most players as a commodity (purchased or via youth) and I want them to succeed but not for them, but to make the club better as my loyalty is to the club.
I really don't understand why people get so upset when players are criticised for errors, but also why people go out of their way to criticse players on a personal level. | | | |
| Morsy on 11:25 - Dec 9 with 1793 views | hype313 |
| Morsy on 10:51 - Dec 9 by gsoly |
The decision to not sub him yesterday was a strange one. Taylor looked very fit/bright throughout and Morsy really did have a shocker. One has to assume Phillips is far from match fit because to be an unused sub two games on the bounce hints at something fishy. |
If you're injured why be on the bench? |  |
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| Morsy on 11:27 - Dec 9 with 1783 views | bsw72 |
| Morsy on 11:06 - Dec 9 by Meadowlark |
I think we all noticed. He's been so good for so long that when he doesn't quite live up to the standards that he's set himself, it's glaringly obvious. Of course it doesn't make him an instantly bad player. Everyone, even Morsy, has an off-day occasionally. And generally, his play was as good as ever. Those three mistakes stood out. |
He also is willing to pick up the ball in dangerous areas, so mistakes from him will potentially be more costly.
Our forwards often make similar errors but further up the pitch so any goal which results from it are not directly attributed back to them like they are for Morsy / Muric etc.
A lot of our goals conceded have come from our attacking players giving the ball away cheaply, leaving our defenders out of position and exposed and the opposition with the space to exploit. | | | |
| Morsy on 11:35 - Dec 9 with 1741 views | quad |
| Morsy on 11:18 - Dec 9 by bsw72 |
People have a tendency to get very defensive over their favourite players - and like to be loyal to them. Maybe I am heartless or lack emotion, but I see most players as a commodity (purchased or via youth) and I want them to succeed but not for them, but to make the club better as my loyalty is to the club.
I really don't understand why people get so upset when players are criticised for errors, but also why people go out of their way to criticse players on a personal level. |
It wasn't really my intention to criticise Morsy. I still think he's a very good player. Likewise I think Hutchinson is a very good player, but I still think that in several games earlier in the season he was getting dispossessed far too often which then put the rest of the team under pressure, as it usually led to an opposition attack.
I was trying to support Muric who I think gets unfairly targeted when he makes any mistake. He made one mistake yesterday, which I don't think even directly led to the goal (because they probably would have scored anyway if he had stayed on his line). It was a very poor decision obviously, but I really feel like he is being made a scapegoat and I don't like it. He needs our support more than ever. No player can be flawless all game. | | | |
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