| Need to stay on the same page now 22:48 - Dec 21 with 10103 views | SomethingBlue |
If you'd told me it would be 17 games til our first one-to-90 shellacking I'd have signed up for that. It could have been a lot worse. And I think most of us know both the wider context and the very specific situation in which we entered today.
Those that booed at 3-0 and half-time? Not having you, not after the two years we've had. Much more of that and you'll end up with the club you deserve, it's pretty safe to say that, and the rest of us will be there to judge you heavily for it.
A bad day, the first goal the most annoying for me because we shouldn't be done like that after 20-odd seconds, but if that's as bad as it gets this season we'll be ok. Everyone needs to stick together and have an appreciation of the context. It's got us a long way and will take us further. |  |
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 10:28 - Dec 23 with 1493 views | BiGDonnie |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 22:53 - Dec 21 by FrimleyBlue |
Those that booed at 3-0 and half-time? Not having you, not after the two years we've had. Much more of that and you'll end up with the club you deserve, it's pretty safe to say that, and the rest of us will be there to judge you heavily for it.
Whilst I don't condone booing. Many of those will be the reason we were able to fund the signings that go the club to the prem. |
Nearly 2025 and you're still embarrassing yourself FFS. |  |
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:19 - Dec 23 with 1410 views | J2BLUE |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 23:25 - Dec 21 by FrimleyBlue |
We could only spend what we could based in turnover so yes the increase in attendances played a bigger part than the wealth of the owners.
That said its a balancing act. But if those 60% stopped going. There wouldn't be funds available to do anything. [Post edited 21 Dec 2024 23:27]
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Do you ever read threads back and think wtf was I thinking? |  |
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:21 - Dec 23 with 1408 views | Sarge |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 09:40 - Dec 23 by tractorboy1978 |
10th best save %.
10th for long range passing accuracy (I include this as it seems to be a criticism of him).
Highest % of crosses taken/stopped (in PL and Europe).
Before Saturday he was 8th in goals expected to concede vs goals conceded too but Newcastle out performed their xG by 1.7 which has pushed him down the table. I will concede that one.
https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepersadv/Premier-League-Stats [Post edited 23 Dec 2024 9:41]
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:26 - Dec 23 with 1385 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:19 - Dec 23 by J2BLUE |
Do you ever read threads back and think wtf was I thinking? |
I'm wrong in thinking increased attendances allowed the club to spend money. No I don't think wtf about it. |  |
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:26 - Dec 23 with 1395 views | portmanking |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:19 - Dec 23 by J2BLUE |
Do you ever read threads back and think wtf was I thinking? |
Course he doesn't. Because, by the time he's ruined one thread with a load of verbal diarrhea, he's moved on to creating the next madcap thread. | | | |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:28 - Dec 23 with 1379 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:26 - Dec 23 by portmanking |
Course he doesn't. Because, by the time he's ruined one thread with a load of verbal diarrhea, he's moved on to creating the next madcap thread. |
Yeah it's awful using the forum and discussing football.
I guess when I'm not being negative you all have nothing to moan at about me so find something else instead.
Grow up. | |
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:30 - Dec 23 with 1387 views | portmanking |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:28 - Dec 23 by FrimleyBlue |
Yeah it's awful using the forum and discussing football.
I guess when I'm not being negative you all have nothing to moan at about me so find something else instead.
Grow up. |
How about you 'grow up' and spend more of your life outside of this forum? But no, I'm sure we'll have to put up with your inane ramblings for much longer. | | | |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:40 - Dec 23 with 1366 views | PrideOfTheEast |
I can't be bothered to read the whole thread but I was far more bothered after the Leicester result than on Saturday. Newcastle are a top team with outstanding individuals - I had it down as a home defeat the minute Delap was not going to be available.
As we saw with other results this weekend, plenty of thrashings get thrown about at this level and anybody not expecting several of them this season is naive. Chelsea could be a very high scoring defeat. | | | |
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 14:05 - Dec 23 with 1294 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:40 - Dec 23 by PrideOfTheEast |
I can't be bothered to read the whole thread but I was far more bothered after the Leicester result than on Saturday. Newcastle are a top team with outstanding individuals - I had it down as a home defeat the minute Delap was not going to be available.
As we saw with other results this weekend, plenty of thrashings get thrown about at this level and anybody not expecting several of them this season is naive. Chelsea could be a very high scoring defeat. |
"Chelsea could be a very high scoring defeat."
I haven't seen much of them. Is Sanchez that bad?
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| “Overestimated some people”…. on 17:04 - Dec 23 with 1204 views | textbackup |
| “Overestimated some people”…. on 15:27 - Dec 22 by The_Flashing_Smile |
There's nothing "factual" about that post. |
We didn’t compete though did we. Huffed and puffed a bit, but miles off giving Newcastle a game. Not seen the stats, but did we have a shot on target? Normally a good indicator of if you’ve competed in a game.
Howe said that afterwards to be polite, because they were discussing SBR. |  |
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 17:09 - Dec 23 with 1183 views | textbackup |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:40 - Dec 23 by PrideOfTheEast |
I can't be bothered to read the whole thread but I was far more bothered after the Leicester result than on Saturday. Newcastle are a top team with outstanding individuals - I had it down as a home defeat the minute Delap was not going to be available.
As we saw with other results this weekend, plenty of thrashings get thrown about at this level and anybody not expecting several of them this season is naive. Chelsea could be a very high scoring defeat. |
Arsenal and Chelsea could be two where we get any confidence absolutely bashed from us.
Those teams are just too fast, too aggressive, too powerful for us. If we try and take the game to them the spaces we’ll leave will be suicidal.
Now watch us draw one and win the other 😂 | |
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 17:21 - Dec 23 with 1150 views | DJR |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 12:21 - Dec 23 by Sarge |
Errors leading directly to goals he must be #1 |
He is, according to this from the Premier League, with 5 errors, two ahead of anyone else in a list which isn't confined to goalkeepers.
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/error_lead_to_goal
The issue I have with him (having seen him in the flesh ever since his first appearance against Man City) is that he doesn't inspire confidence because he seems to be an accident waiting to happen. [Post edited 23 Dec 2024 17:47]
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 17:32 - Dec 23 with 1126 views | DJR |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 17:21 - Dec 23 by DJR |
He is, according to this from the Premier League, with 5 errors, two ahead of anyone else in a list which isn't confined to goalkeepers.
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/error_lead_to_goal
The issue I have with him (having seen him in the flesh ever since his first appearance against Man City) is that he doesn't inspire confidence because he seems to be an accident waiting to happen. [Post edited 23 Dec 2024 17:47]
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According to this list of the most errors leading to goals in Premier League history, it's 7 errors, and he has made the list with only a fraction of the number of games (26) of other players.
https://www.statmuse.com/fc/ask/most-errors-leading-to-goal-in-premier-league-hi
EDIT: I realise that must pick up his time at Burnley.
FURTHER EDIT: If he carries on at that rate, by the time he reaches the number of appearances of Jordan Pickford (top of the list), he will have been responsible for 81 goals. [Post edited 23 Dec 2024 17:45]
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 18:03 - Dec 23 with 1071 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 17:21 - Dec 23 by DJR |
He is, according to this from the Premier League, with 5 errors, two ahead of anyone else in a list which isn't confined to goalkeepers.
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/error_lead_to_goal
The issue I have with him (having seen him in the flesh ever since his first appearance against Man City) is that he doesn't inspire confidence because he seems to be an accident waiting to happen. [Post edited 23 Dec 2024 17:47]
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He seems to be great on anything instinctive, reflex saves, coming for crosses and the like, but there’s mounting evidence that as soon as he has a moment to think about what he’s going to do he’s likely to make a dog’s arse of it. Which is a shame because his ability with the ball at his feet was supposedly a selling point. [Post edited 23 Dec 2024 18:03]
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| “Overestimated some people”…. on 18:34 - Dec 23 with 998 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| “Overestimated some people”…. on 17:04 - Dec 23 by textbackup |
We didn’t compete though did we. Huffed and puffed a bit, but miles off giving Newcastle a game. Not seen the stats, but did we have a shot on target? Normally a good indicator of if you’ve competed in a game.
Howe said that afterwards to be polite, because they were discussing SBR. |
I wasn't referring to the Newcastle game. I was referring to Algy saying, "Not sure how many "competitive" games there's been either. More like participating actuality." That is not factual. We've been competitive in most of our games. |  |
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 18:36 - Dec 23 with 996 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 17:32 - Dec 23 by DJR |
According to this list of the most errors leading to goals in Premier League history, it's 7 errors, and he has made the list with only a fraction of the number of games (26) of other players.
https://www.statmuse.com/fc/ask/most-errors-leading-to-goal-in-premier-league-hi
EDIT: I realise that must pick up his time at Burnley.
FURTHER EDIT: If he carries on at that rate, by the time he reaches the number of appearances of Jordan Pickford (top of the list), he will have been responsible for 81 goals. [Post edited 23 Dec 2024 17:45]
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 22:15 - Dec 23 with 913 views | GlasgowBlue |
Jesus saves. |  |
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| Need to stay on the same page now on 09:29 - Dec 24 with 728 views | DJR |
| Need to stay on the same page now on 22:15 - Dec 23 by GlasgowBlue |
Jesus saves. |
But Isak nets the rebound!
Originally [Ian] St John. [Post edited 24 Dec 2024 10:15]
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| “Overestimated some people”…. on 09:37 - Dec 24 with 708 views | bazza |
| “Overestimated some people”…. on 17:04 - Dec 23 by textbackup |
We didn’t compete though did we. Huffed and puffed a bit, but miles off giving Newcastle a game. Not seen the stats, but did we have a shot on target? Normally a good indicator of if you’ve competed in a game.
Howe said that afterwards to be polite, because they were discussing SBR. |
10 shots 2 on target.. 2 corners to their 1 .. 42% possession… to be fair , looking at some of the stats, you wouldn’t have thought it was a 4-0 whooping. Our trouble is still Sloppy mistakes, sloppy passing, except in the premier league you get savagely punished for It . |  | | |
| “Overestimated some people”…. on 12:55 - Dec 24 with 647 views | itfc_statman |
| “Overestimated some people”…. on 09:37 - Dec 24 by bazza |
10 shots 2 on target.. 2 corners to their 1 .. 42% possession… to be fair , looking at some of the stats, you wouldn’t have thought it was a 4-0 whooping. Our trouble is still Sloppy mistakes, sloppy passing, except in the premier league you get savagely punished for It . |
This is why you use more valuable metrics like xG. You can have 20 shots from 30 yards out that are less likely to indicate a team capable of competing than one who creates 2 good opportunities inside the area.
It's why we've not been "competitive in most of our games". We've been competitive in a handful but generally speaking we've been kept at arms length by sides who can control the game even without the ball.
If we had been competitive, we wouldn't be 19th in terms of xGD/90, with only Southampton narrowly behind us (by 0.1 per game) | | | |
| “Overestimated some people”…. on 14:18 - Dec 24 with 596 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| “Overestimated some people”…. on 12:55 - Dec 24 by itfc_statman |
This is why you use more valuable metrics like xG. You can have 20 shots from 30 yards out that are less likely to indicate a team capable of competing than one who creates 2 good opportunities inside the area.
It's why we've not been "competitive in most of our games". We've been competitive in a handful but generally speaking we've been kept at arms length by sides who can control the game even without the ball.
If we had been competitive, we wouldn't be 19th in terms of xGD/90, with only Southampton narrowly behind us (by 0.1 per game) |
Being "competitive" is more than stats (and certainly more than XG stats).
I prefer to use my eyes. | |
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| “Overestimated some people”…. on 17:13 - Dec 24 with 516 views | benrhyddingblue |
| “Overestimated some people”…. on 12:55 - Dec 24 by itfc_statman |
This is why you use more valuable metrics like xG. You can have 20 shots from 30 yards out that are less likely to indicate a team capable of competing than one who creates 2 good opportunities inside the area.
It's why we've not been "competitive in most of our games". We've been competitive in a handful but generally speaking we've been kept at arms length by sides who can control the game even without the ball.
If we had been competitive, we wouldn't be 19th in terms of xGD/90, with only Southampton narrowly behind us (by 0.1 per game) |
Haha, you pick and choose stats to make whatever point you want. Elsewhere you argued Brighton created more than Newcastle to make a point about us, yet most of those chances were off target yet here you are telling us all that doesn’t mean anything. As someone else said most of us prefer to use our eyes. | | | |
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