| Bottom 3 21:46 - Dec 26 with 4213 views | cymroglas |
Just an observation. Bottom 3 are the three teams who were promoted in the same positions
as we Leicester and Soton went up. I don’t expect that the league will finish this way and I expect many twists and turns but the table does not lie in terms of the massive gulf between the PL and EFL. I still think we are doing better than any of the other promoted sides in terms of historic parachute payments and squads as many have said here. The Fulham result today makes me think we can get a result against Chelsea….. |  | | |  |
| December on 21:49 - Dec 26 with 3967 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Just an observation. It is December and relegation is determined by postions in May. |  |
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| December on 21:59 - Dec 26 with 3827 views | SitfcB |
| December on 21:49 - Dec 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Just an observation. It is December and relegation is determined by postions in May. |
Is it just our fanbase that are extremely negative?
For the last two years our fans have flapped about not getting promotion, bottled it etc and were made to look fools.
It ain’t over ‘till it’s over maybe. |  |
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| December on 22:03 - Dec 26 with 3740 views | Swansea_Blue |
| December on 21:59 - Dec 26 by SitfcB |
Is it just our fanbase that are extremely negative?
For the last two years our fans have flapped about not getting promotion, bottled it etc and were made to look fools.
It ain’t over ‘till it’s over maybe. |
I don’t see how it’s negative to point out reality. Currently, the bottom 3 ARE the three promoted teams in the finishing order. That’s just a fact. And not a Trumpian ‘alternative fact’ either. Just a good old fashioned fact fact.
Who knows where we’ll end up though. Long way to go, etc., as the OP said. |  |
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| December on 22:03 - Dec 26 with 3739 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| December on 21:59 - Dec 26 by SitfcB |
Is it just our fanbase that are extremely negative?
For the last two years our fans have flapped about not getting promotion, bottled it etc and were made to look fools.
It ain’t over ‘till it’s over maybe. |
And if we do go down, it's been a fantastic journey that is far from over. I am confident we will establish ourselves in the Premier League once again provided Gamechanger stick around. | |
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| December on 22:06 - Dec 26 with 3699 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| December on 22:03 - Dec 26 by Swansea_Blue |
I don’t see how it’s negative to point out reality. Currently, the bottom 3 ARE the three promoted teams in the finishing order. That’s just a fact. And not a Trumpian ‘alternative fact’ either. Just a good old fashioned fact fact.
Who knows where we’ll end up though. Long way to go, etc., as the OP said. |
It is also a fact that for the first 18 weeks of the season the bottom 3 were not the promoted 3. They currently are for the first time all season. | |
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| December on 22:10 - Dec 26 with 3593 views | SitfcB |
| December on 22:03 - Dec 26 by Swansea_Blue |
I don’t see how it’s negative to point out reality. Currently, the bottom 3 ARE the three promoted teams in the finishing order. That’s just a fact. And not a Trumpian ‘alternative fact’ either. Just a good old fashioned fact fact.
Who knows where we’ll end up though. Long way to go, etc., as the OP said. |
We’re already down according to a lot of people! | |
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| December on 22:42 - Dec 26 with 3252 views | Vaughan8 |
| December on 21:59 - Dec 26 by SitfcB |
Is it just our fanbase that are extremely negative?
For the last two years our fans have flapped about not getting promotion, bottled it etc and were made to look fools.
It ain’t over ‘till it’s over maybe. |
I think we'll go down because I'm realist and I can't think of the 3rd team who will be worse than us. We can beat Southampton and Leicester, but who else is going to drop into the bottom 3......
However, long way to go. We need to go on a bit of a run, or at least win 2 games in a row or something, but I can't see that in the next few weeks | | | |
| Bottom 3 on 22:44 - Dec 26 with 3235 views | jasondozzell |
We're in touch at Christmas. We'll strengthen in Jan.
Hell of an effort by manager and players to make the step up to this league. It's a different monster to the early 00s.
We've beaten Spurs away, gave Brentford and Brighton a run for their money and have been the better team against Fulham, Villa and United at home.
KMac will keep us up. I'm sure of it. |  | | |
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| December on 22:44 - Dec 26 with 3237 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| December on 21:59 - Dec 26 by SitfcB |
Is it just our fanbase that are extremely negative?
For the last two years our fans have flapped about not getting promotion, bottled it etc and were made to look fools.
It ain’t over ‘till it’s over maybe. |
It's almost incredulous after the two years we've had, with the journey we've been on and seeing pivotal moments come, sometimes out of nowhere(forest green beating SW, Sarmiento at home) - people still write us off. Of course it may be true but we've seen countless times in the past two years where the script has been ripped up. |  |
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| December on 22:50 - Dec 26 with 3184 views | le2blue |
| December on 22:42 - Dec 26 by Vaughan8 |
I think we'll go down because I'm realist and I can't think of the 3rd team who will be worse than us. We can beat Southampton and Leicester, but who else is going to drop into the bottom 3......
However, long way to go. We need to go on a bit of a run, or at least win 2 games in a row or something, but I can't see that in the next few weeks |
wolves are about to go on a tough run of fixtures and will loose their main goal scorer for 4+ games....so I suspect they'll be the ones to catch along with leicester. |  | | |
| December on 23:49 - Dec 26 with 2862 views | MVBlue |
| December on 22:44 - Dec 26 by JammyDodgerrr |
It's almost incredulous after the two years we've had, with the journey we've been on and seeing pivotal moments come, sometimes out of nowhere(forest green beating SW, Sarmiento at home) - people still write us off. Of course it may be true but we've seen countless times in the past two years where the script has been ripped up. |
Probably only natural that once in the Last rem you no longer consider yourself as being amongst Championship elite but...
Ambitious among lower Premiership....
But then the management team downplay expectations
So you wonder.... where should we be? |  |
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| December on 00:31 - Dec 27 with 2732 views | gosblue |
| December on 22:50 - Dec 26 by le2blue |
wolves are about to go on a tough run of fixtures and will loose their main goal scorer for 4+ games....so I suspect they'll be the ones to catch along with leicester. |
If VAR had done their job at the end of the Wolves game, Cunha would have had a 2 match ban followed by a review to see how much more he should get. Wolves may not have won their last two games and everything would seem fair in the closed shop that is the Premier League. There are currently six teams in the relegation dog fight with another four hoping not to get sucked into it. We need to take better care of our own business or suffer the consequences. | | | |
| December on 00:49 - Dec 27 with 2692 views | FrimleyBlue |
| December on 22:10 - Dec 26 by SitfcB |
We’re already down according to a lot of people! |
I was more comfortable after the first 10 games where we looked to be the most prem capable of the promoted sides and we were also at the time above the two established prem clubs who were struggling.
But I feel we've taken steps backwards over the past block of games since the internationals especially. We haven't really looked like we were improving so feel January is incredibly important. It's sht or bust for this season or forget it this Jan and just concentrate on 25/26. I think the step-up for us is to big with minor additions in Jan it needs a big influx of players which doesn't really seem possible and plausible. So I with the likes of wolves improving.. I don't see us being able to finish about another prem side at the moment other than Southampton |  |
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| Bottom 3 on 01:03 - Dec 27 with 2656 views | Trequartista |
They can do another sequel if they want, but it won't be the same without Rik Mayall. |  |
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| December on 07:03 - Dec 27 with 2292 views | PioneerBlue |
| December on 00:49 - Dec 27 by FrimleyBlue |
I was more comfortable after the first 10 games where we looked to be the most prem capable of the promoted sides and we were also at the time above the two established prem clubs who were struggling.
But I feel we've taken steps backwards over the past block of games since the internationals especially. We haven't really looked like we were improving so feel January is incredibly important. It's sht or bust for this season or forget it this Jan and just concentrate on 25/26. I think the step-up for us is to big with minor additions in Jan it needs a big influx of players which doesn't really seem possible and plausible. So I with the likes of wolves improving.. I don't see us being able to finish about another prem side at the moment other than Southampton |
Yet that’s not how the points are accumulating.
First 9 games, 4 points,
Next 9 games, 8 points,
12 points.
We’ve definitely improved on ability to accumulate points but as we stand today’s it’s not enough. I don’t think we are far off but the way the games fall it could look pretty bad by beginning of Feb. That’s when the pressure is on to win games, that will likely go one of two ways, to open and lose lots of games searching for wins or improvement really starts and we convert the marginal games and scrape by to stay up in last game! | |
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| December on 07:50 - Dec 27 with 2202 views | DavoIPB |
| December on 21:49 - Dec 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Just an observation. It is December and relegation is determined by postions in May. |
Although going on strength of squads. Technical ability of each teams players. Experience of each teams players I would say the bottom three look about right where they are. Maybe Ipswich and Southampton to swap. | | | |
| December on 09:10 - Dec 27 with 2006 views | FrimleyBlue |
| December on 07:03 - Dec 27 by PioneerBlue |
Yet that’s not how the points are accumulating.
First 9 games, 4 points,
Next 9 games, 8 points,
12 points.
We’ve definitely improved on ability to accumulate points but as we stand today’s it’s not enough. I don’t think we are far off but the way the games fall it could look pretty bad by beginning of Feb. That’s when the pressure is on to win games, that will likely go one of two ways, to open and lose lots of games searching for wins or improvement really starts and we convert the marginal games and scrape by to stay up in last game! |
Difficult one. Obviously agree we've had the 2 wins in the latter run. But the draws and being competitive over 90 minutes doesn't quite seem to be as comfortable as I felt in that earlier run.
I kinda went into games thinking ok we will get a draw we need to to go further and get those wins. To now wondering if we will even get a draw.
Obviously all personal opinion but we look worse now than we did in those opening 9 games. | |
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| December on 09:40 - Dec 27 with 1933 views | RichOBlue |
| December on 21:59 - Dec 26 by SitfcB |
Is it just our fanbase that are extremely negative?
For the last two years our fans have flapped about not getting promotion, bottled it etc and were made to look fools.
It ain’t over ‘till it’s over maybe. |
Think it’s more to do with the 18 years previous to the last couple, still hard to believe the change in the club!! |  |
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| Bottom 3 on 10:54 - Dec 27 with 1753 views | ITFC_History |
The lowest points a team has had by Xmas in the Premiership & stayed up is TEN. So on that basis Im hopeful 
All the teams that had 10 points by Christmas & survived
West Brom (2004/05) Finished 17th
Sunderland (2013/14) Finished 14th
Leicester City (2014/15) Finished 14th
Wolves (2022/23) Finished 13th |  | | |
| Bottom 3 on 11:30 - Dec 27 with 1607 views | bournemouthblue |
Burnley and Sheffield United are also in the top three of the Championship, which may bode well for next season should the worst happen
The gap is growing between the two leagues and it can't be helping if all the promoted sides can't remain in the league, it just strengthens the remaining 17 each season |  |
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| Bottom 3 on 11:36 - Dec 27 with 1580 views | Blue_Heath |
| Bottom 3 on 10:54 - Dec 27 by ITFC_History |
The lowest points a team has had by Xmas in the Premiership & stayed up is TEN. So on that basis Im hopeful
All the teams that had 10 points by Christmas & survived
West Brom (2004/05) Finished 17th
Sunderland (2013/14) Finished 14th
Leicester City (2014/15) Finished 14th
Wolves (2022/23) Finished 13th |
I'd say Palace, Everton and Wolves have under performed and are likely to get more points in second half of the season meaning that 40 points will be required to stay up rather than 32/34. Leicester I think won 7 from their last 8 to stay up which will never be done again. | | | |
| December on 14:21 - Dec 27 with 1387 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| December on 07:03 - Dec 27 by PioneerBlue |
Yet that’s not how the points are accumulating.
First 9 games, 4 points,
Next 9 games, 8 points,
12 points.
We’ve definitely improved on ability to accumulate points but as we stand today’s it’s not enough. I don’t think we are far off but the way the games fall it could look pretty bad by beginning of Feb. That’s when the pressure is on to win games, that will likely go one of two ways, to open and lose lots of games searching for wins or improvement really starts and we convert the marginal games and scrape by to stay up in last game! |
The question is then, do the next 9 matches yield 12 points or 16 points. If the latter, the final 9 should be a lot of fun!
Just how do you get 32 points from 9 matches anyone? | |
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| Bottom 3 on 14:23 - Dec 27 with 1375 views | Vic |
| Bottom 3 on 22:44 - Dec 26 by jasondozzell |
We're in touch at Christmas. We'll strengthen in Jan.
Hell of an effort by manager and players to make the step up to this league. It's a different monster to the early 00s.
We've beaten Spurs away, gave Brentford and Brighton a run for their money and have been the better team against Fulham, Villa and United at home.
KMac will keep us up. I'm sure of it. |
You really th8nk we’ll strengthen in Jan? It’s not just bringing in decent squad fillers that we need but some players that are better than our current best. Being able to attract and afford those players will be difficult.
I really hope I’m wrong, but I can’t see it.
Just being realistic. I think KM and the owners and MA are doing a fantastic job but I think we were promoted a bit too quickly. I hope I’m wrong but am resigned to relegation - with an expectation that we’ll continue to evolve and will come back stronger. |  |
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| Bottom 3 on 14:24 - Dec 27 with 1356 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Bottom 3 on 14:23 - Dec 27 by Vic |
You really th8nk we’ll strengthen in Jan? It’s not just bringing in decent squad fillers that we need but some players that are better than our current best. Being able to attract and afford those players will be difficult.
I really hope I’m wrong, but I can’t see it.
Just being realistic. I think KM and the owners and MA are doing a fantastic job but I think we were promoted a bit too quickly. I hope I’m wrong but am resigned to relegation - with an expectation that we’ll continue to evolve and will come back stronger. |
I would be very surprised if we didn't bring another striker in. We had Broja lined up on deadline day only for it to fall through at the last minute. Al Hamadi would then go on loan. Didn't we also have another creative player fall through on the final day? | |
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| December on 14:44 - Dec 27 with 1285 views | OldFart71 |
| December on 00:49 - Dec 27 by FrimleyBlue |
I was more comfortable after the first 10 games where we looked to be the most prem capable of the promoted sides and we were also at the time above the two established prem clubs who were struggling.
But I feel we've taken steps backwards over the past block of games since the internationals especially. We haven't really looked like we were improving so feel January is incredibly important. It's sht or bust for this season or forget it this Jan and just concentrate on 25/26. I think the step-up for us is to big with minor additions in Jan it needs a big influx of players which doesn't really seem possible and plausible. So I with the likes of wolves improving.. I don't see us being able to finish about another prem side at the moment other than Southampton |
It does seem to be a theme with us that we faltered in December and January. It happened in Division One and then the Championship before we came on strong from February onwards. As long as we don't get more than half a dozen points behind the pack by the middle of January we have a chance if the recruitment is right. | | | |
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