| Reece James 10:24 - Dec 28 with 8366 views | chicoazul |
Supposedly coming on loan in January. |  |
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| Reece James on 14:09 - Dec 28 with 1751 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Reece James on 14:01 - Dec 28 by ITFC_Forever |
Aren’t we already at our loan quota (2)? |
We can have 2 more, one from the Prem and 1 from elsewhere.
Loan quota is 4. 2 is the maximum from Premier League clubs. |  |
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| Reece James on 14:31 - Dec 28 with 1655 views | Churchman |
| Reece James on 13:41 - Dec 28 by Nutkins_Return |
Morsy is also very robust? But what is the point this makes? Some professional footballers have been fortunate with injuries (or more robust builds which has certain limitations e.g. pace/dynamic turning etc) so all players should never be injured
The point stands: professional footballers/athletes get injured. Generally the faster/more dynamic ones will get more frequent injuries. |
Davis, Morsy, Hutchinson, Delap - all rarely get injuries . There are others too. The term sicknote (memories of Darren Anderton) maybe harsh, but the simple fact is some people are more robust than others, whether the reason is genetics, size, training or booze. Some people get injured and never truly recover. It doesn’t really matter what terminology you use, that’s the way it is.
For example George Hirst, a player who is certainly Premier League quality, has played how many games in the last year? Not the first injury he’s had either. It’s not his fault, it’s how it is. We’ve had many a player with a poor injury record and most (not all) continued to have a poor injury record. All the talent in the world will be of minimal use if you are made of glass like say poor old Emyr Huws.
Why take the risk on a player like Reece James? Signed a six year contact in 2022. Top player. England full back. Marquee signing, let’s all cheer. Shame he’s been constantly injured for two years and Chelsea want rid of a player and what remains of his contract for a reason. Maybe they are convinced he will ever recover his former fitness and form?
Beyond taking the odd risk on an injury prone player, I believe unless you buy top players, like Newcastle’s midfield, you are better off buying either prospects or slightly lesser players that can play week in week out. Just a view.
One thing the club will need to look at is its pre season and medical side of things. Maybe that’s not a factor and it is just the make up of the players and bad luck, but losing so many players has hurt and all elements will need looking at. |  | | |
| Reece James on 14:34 - Dec 28 with 1641 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Reece James on 13:17 - Dec 28 by TractorWood |
The 10 mentioned above. |
Ah, I can't see Frimley's posts (just because the board is better that way). Had. A look. You agree with that list!!? You consider them 'sicknotes'!! A sick note is anyone who has had an injury? Some of our fans, wow!
Burns: in 3 full seasons has averaged 42 games per season and has played 14 out of 18 this season. He's had some hamstring issues but has been available for the vast majority of our games for years...
Broadhead: ever present first half season. 41 games last season. Has actually been fit for or most of this but missed pre-season and first few games of this. Absolutely nothing to say sicknote whatsoever.
Luongo: been available for vast majority of our games. Barely missed any football for first year and a half with us. Isn't making some squads now and has a minor injury now. Absolutely not been a sicknote for us. At all.
Hirst: played pretty much every game first have season he joined. Played 29 games second season (1 injury). Played 8 so far this as has injury. So 2 injuries basically. Hardly a sicknote. He'll miss something like 13-15 games this season if he plays test if season once fit.
Al Hamadi: has been available for 90%+ of games. Yes he has an issue he manages but the fact he plays DESPITE this is the opposite of the definition of sicknote.
Cajuste: been available for nearly every game. Again manages and issue but plays regardless. Opposite of sicknote.
O'Shea: played just about every game since signing with injury. Again the literal opposite of the definition sicknote.
This is the most nonsensical anti support rubbish.
We have some injuries on the back of a spell of very few injuries. It's annoying. It's not abnormal. |  |
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| Reece James on 14:39 - Dec 28 with 1613 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Reece James on 14:34 - Dec 28 by Nutkins_Return |
Ah, I can't see Frimley's posts (just because the board is better that way). Had. A look. You agree with that list!!? You consider them 'sicknotes'!! A sick note is anyone who has had an injury? Some of our fans, wow!
Burns: in 3 full seasons has averaged 42 games per season and has played 14 out of 18 this season. He's had some hamstring issues but has been available for the vast majority of our games for years...
Broadhead: ever present first half season. 41 games last season. Has actually been fit for or most of this but missed pre-season and first few games of this. Absolutely nothing to say sicknote whatsoever.
Luongo: been available for vast majority of our games. Barely missed any football for first year and a half with us. Isn't making some squads now and has a minor injury now. Absolutely not been a sicknote for us. At all.
Hirst: played pretty much every game first have season he joined. Played 29 games second season (1 injury). Played 8 so far this as has injury. So 2 injuries basically. Hardly a sicknote. He'll miss something like 13-15 games this season if he plays test if season once fit.
Al Hamadi: has been available for 90%+ of games. Yes he has an issue he manages but the fact he plays DESPITE this is the opposite of the definition of sicknote.
Cajuste: been available for nearly every game. Again manages and issue but plays regardless. Opposite of sicknote.
O'Shea: played just about every game since signing with injury. Again the literal opposite of the definition sicknote.
This is the most nonsensical anti support rubbish.
We have some injuries on the back of a spell of very few injuries. It's annoying. It's not abnormal. |
Even tho he won't see my reply. I think nutkins is being precious around the term sicknote. Clearly we aren't talking as churchman mention a daren Anderton or Jamie redknapp. Just players that have been on our injury list this and or last season including some that have reaccuring injuries. I see he's mentioned burns appearences. Quite right too. But don't forget how many of those was played with injury. Similar to Harry Clarke with his achilles.
It's not anti support to point out we've had injuries or players having to play whilst injured. It's a big part of our problems that even had.
The OP was about potentially bringing in a player who could be injured again for the rest of the season. Or he play but be unfit or do an axel when he joined and become a star but it still took a while before we saw it and time isn't something we have.
On the list I gave and in reply to nutkins
Burns. 7 injuries since Sept 23.
Broadhead. Since 22 has had about 5. One keeping him out for 101 days. ( not with us at the time i dont think)
Luongo.. we were so lucky with his time with us injury wise but he's had his fair share in his time and each week he seems to be unfit ( could be KM being polite and just saying not near the level )
Hirst. Nearing 150 days injured for us inside the last 12 months etc etc
On cajuste. My fav players. Was included because we signed him with an injury and he's had to play to limits and time restraints. Again not good when you're fighting relegation.
Al hamadi. Yes he did play. Not really a benefit to us when he did as he couldn't run. He does seem fitter now.
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| Reece James on 14:42 - Dec 28 with 1604 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Reece James on 13:59 - Dec 28 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Very disrespectful comment.
Sicknote
Nickname for someone who is continually off work "sick", usually faking it because they are simply too lazy or irresponsible and can't be bothered to come in to work like the rest of us.
I get what you're (badly) attempting to say, but maybe try to use less inflammatory language, that undermines the integrity of some of the team. |
Or stop being precious about the term which others have clearly been able to and we are are clearly just talking about the number of injuries we've had. Ffs this place sometimes. | |
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| Reece James on 15:07 - Dec 28 with 1545 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Reece James on 14:39 - Dec 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Even tho he won't see my reply. I think nutkins is being precious around the term sicknote. Clearly we aren't talking as churchman mention a daren Anderton or Jamie redknapp. Just players that have been on our injury list this and or last season including some that have reaccuring injuries. I see he's mentioned burns appearences. Quite right too. But don't forget how many of those was played with injury. Similar to Harry Clarke with his achilles.
It's not anti support to point out we've had injuries or players having to play whilst injured. It's a big part of our problems that even had.
The OP was about potentially bringing in a player who could be injured again for the rest of the season. Or he play but be unfit or do an axel when he joined and become a star but it still took a while before we saw it and time isn't something we have.
On the list I gave and in reply to nutkins
Burns. 7 injuries since Sept 23.
Broadhead. Since 22 has had about 5. One keeping him out for 101 days. ( not with us at the time i dont think)
Luongo.. we were so lucky with his time with us injury wise but he's had his fair share in his time and each week he seems to be unfit ( could be KM being polite and just saying not near the level )
Hirst. Nearing 150 days injured for us inside the last 12 months etc etc
On cajuste. My fav players. Was included because we signed him with an injury and he's had to play to limits and time restraints. Again not good when you're fighting relegation.
Al hamadi. Yes he did play. Not really a benefit to us when he did as he couldn't run. He does seem fitter now.
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No one denies that we've had a lot of injuries.
Your poor choice of language is just unnecessary, and comes over as inflammatory. It's not cool to double down and blame others for not understanding what you meant, because they read it as it was written. | | | |
| Reece James on 15:08 - Dec 28 with 1530 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Reece James on 15:07 - Dec 28 by SuffolkPunchFC |
No one denies that we've had a lot of injuries.
Your poor choice of language is just unnecessary, and comes over as inflammatory. It's not cool to double down and blame others for not understanding what you meant, because they read it as it was written. |
As said others clearly understood. Anyway changed it so you can sleep easier | |
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| Reece James on 15:20 - Dec 28 with 1493 views | Swailsey |
| Reece James on 15:07 - Dec 28 by SuffolkPunchFC |
No one denies that we've had a lot of injuries.
Your poor choice of language is just unnecessary, and comes over as inflammatory. It's not cool to double down and blame others for not understanding what you meant, because they read it as it was written. |
Playing the man not the ball here I think. Sicknote is a widely used football term for a perennially injured player. It’s not meant in the same way as the corporate world. People are reading too much into this. |  |
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| Reece James on 15:22 - Dec 28 with 1488 views | Zapers |
| Reece James on 13:48 - Dec 28 by BlueBadger |
Cookie isn't coming back now Arn, all parties concerned have moved on. |
“All parties concerned have moved on”
With the exception of Bodger;) | | | |
| Reece James on 15:30 - Dec 28 with 1468 views | BlueBadger |
| Reece James on 15:22 - Dec 28 by Zapers |
“All parties concerned have moved on”
With the exception of Bodger;) |
Nic e to see you're double;ing down on no bullying and being kind for the festive season. |  |
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| Reece James on 15:33 - Dec 28 with 1452 views | RadioOrwell |
| Reece James on 10:25 - Dec 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Hmmmm. Interesting link.
Ignoring injuries. Good loan I guess
Not ignoring injuries.. do we need another potential injury problem.
Removed the word sicknote as it caused offence. [Post edited 28 Dec 2024 14:43]
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In football I think 'sicknote' is for someone who simply gets injured a lot ... not because they are faking it ... like 'regular' folk sometimes do in order to get out of a dull job.
Therefore not an offensive usage of the term. |  | | |
| Reece James on 15:36 - Dec 28 with 1446 views | Zapers |
| Reece James on 15:30 - Dec 28 by BlueBadger |
Nic e to see you're double;ing down on no bullying and being kind for the festive season. |
Try practicing what you preach.
I guess it’s the alcohol speaking judging by the grammar. | | | |
| Reece James on 15:38 - Dec 28 with 1431 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Reece James on 15:33 - Dec 28 by RadioOrwell |
In football I think 'sicknote' is for someone who simply gets injured a lot ... not because they are faking it ... like 'regular' folk sometimes do in order to get out of a dull job.
Therefore not an offensive usage of the term. |
Thanks. Must say I'd never heard of sicknote being about faking it even in normal life. Always good to find out stuff | |
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| Reece James on 15:57 - Dec 28 with 1389 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Reece James on 15:38 - Dec 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Thanks. Must say I'd never heard of sicknote being about faking it even in normal life. Always good to find out stuff |
Yes, I'll accept it's maybe got different connotations in football compared to the broader workplace.
TBH I've not heard it used often in this football context for many years - it was certainly common about 20 years ago, but I'd very much forgotten that 
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| Sid James on 17:33 - Dec 28 with 1275 views | Trequartista |
would be more likely. Mwa ha ha ha. |  |
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| Reece James on 17:49 - Dec 28 with 1252 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Reece James on 10:47 - Dec 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Well we've had so far
Hirst. Knee. A few now
Johnson knee regular issues
Al hamadi groin. Signed with it
Cajuste knee. Signed with it
Axel. Hammy. Unfortunate but happened last time at high intensity level alot.
Burns hammy regular injuries
Broadhead various regular injuries
Luongo various. Gone awol lol.
Oshea was back [Post edited 28 Dec 2024 11:04]
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There’s only 1 answer. We need to re-sign Matt Holland |  |
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| Reece James on 18:04 - Dec 28 with 1195 views | bournemouthblue |
| Reece James on 14:01 - Dec 28 by ITFC_Forever |
Aren’t we already at our loan quota (2)? |
I think that's English loanees, Cajuste would be a European loanee? |  |
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| Reece James on 18:58 - Dec 28 with 1066 views | TractorWood |
| Reece James on 14:34 - Dec 28 by Nutkins_Return |
Ah, I can't see Frimley's posts (just because the board is better that way). Had. A look. You agree with that list!!? You consider them 'sicknotes'!! A sick note is anyone who has had an injury? Some of our fans, wow!
Burns: in 3 full seasons has averaged 42 games per season and has played 14 out of 18 this season. He's had some hamstring issues but has been available for the vast majority of our games for years...
Broadhead: ever present first half season. 41 games last season. Has actually been fit for or most of this but missed pre-season and first few games of this. Absolutely nothing to say sicknote whatsoever.
Luongo: been available for vast majority of our games. Barely missed any football for first year and a half with us. Isn't making some squads now and has a minor injury now. Absolutely not been a sicknote for us. At all.
Hirst: played pretty much every game first have season he joined. Played 29 games second season (1 injury). Played 8 so far this as has injury. So 2 injuries basically. Hardly a sicknote. He'll miss something like 13-15 games this season if he plays test if season once fit.
Al Hamadi: has been available for 90%+ of games. Yes he has an issue he manages but the fact he plays DESPITE this is the opposite of the definition of sicknote.
Cajuste: been available for nearly every game. Again manages and issue but plays regardless. Opposite of sicknote.
O'Shea: played just about every game since signing with injury. Again the literal opposite of the definition sicknote.
This is the most nonsensical anti support rubbish.
We have some injuries on the back of a spell of very few injuries. It's annoying. It's not abnormal. |
I was pointing out the names in question rather than opining.
Hirst and Ogbene are probably the only ones that you can say a pattern is present over the last few years. Tuanzebe has had lots of spells out too tbf. This website is good
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/axel-tuanzebe/verletzungen/spieler/342046
As for the 'sicknote' pedantry, we all know the reference means often unavailable from injury in this context. [Post edited 28 Dec 2024 19:08]
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| Reece James on 19:01 - Dec 28 with 1034 views | MK1 |
Panto season in full stream I see.
Oh no he isn't. |  |
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| Reece James on 19:03 - Dec 28 with 1028 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Reece James on 18:04 - Dec 28 by bournemouthblue |
I think that's English loanees, Cajuste would be a European loanee? |
Reece James by Cheltenham_Blue 28 Dec 2024 14:09We can have 2 more, one from the Prem and 1 from elsewhere.
Loan quota is 4. 2 is the maximum from Premier League clubs.
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| Reece James on 19:11 - Dec 28 with 990 views | cressi |
Hopefully not, never fit we want players to be available for almost every game not one in four. | | | |
| Reece James on 19:17 - Dec 28 with 971 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Reece James on 15:20 - Dec 28 by Swailsey |
Playing the man not the ball here I think. Sicknote is a widely used football term for a perennially injured player. It’s not meant in the same way as the corporate world. People are reading too much into this. |
But as I've laid out they simply are not perennially injured. Not by a long shot. Confusing having a number of injuries occur at the same time with making a statement that we have a load of sicknotes is absurd. I've giving the full figures (facts!) and he has downvoted it. Just silly.
Also just because something is widely used doesn't take away the stigma and damage of phrases like that. Really hurts some of those players. Ask dyer (for whom it was more justified in terms of time out) - it really hurts players who just want to play.
Fans pile on as soon as someone is labeled something. Phillips is a prime example. A few label him lazy and not caring....that's now the rhetoric. | |
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| Reece James on 19:20 - Dec 28 with 964 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Reece James on 10:47 - Dec 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Well we've had so far
Hirst. Knee. A few now
Johnson knee regular issues
Al hamadi groin. Signed with it
Cajuste knee. Signed with it
Axel. Hammy. Unfortunate but happened last time at high intensity level alot.
Burns hammy regular injuries
Broadhead various regular injuries
Luongo various. Gone awol lol.
Oshea was back [Post edited 28 Dec 2024 11:04]
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6 of those are considered match fit.
We’re doing pretty well at the moment compared to many teams - https://www.premierleague.com/news/3931513 | |
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| Reece James on 19:26 - Dec 28 with 937 views | FrimleyBlue |
Go back couple weeks and someone posted we were 2nd for number of injuries. Obviously it helps when more are considered match fit and good for us. | |
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| Reece James on 19:29 - Dec 28 with 911 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Reece James on 19:17 - Dec 28 by Nutkins_Return |
But as I've laid out they simply are not perennially injured. Not by a long shot. Confusing having a number of injuries occur at the same time with making a statement that we have a load of sicknotes is absurd. I've giving the full figures (facts!) and he has downvoted it. Just silly.
Also just because something is widely used doesn't take away the stigma and damage of phrases like that. Really hurts some of those players. Ask dyer (for whom it was more justified in terms of time out) - it really hurts players who just want to play.
Fans pile on as soon as someone is labeled something. Phillips is a prime example. A few label him lazy and not caring....that's now the rhetoric. |
Jeez you're really upset by the sicknote label.
The whole point was not signing a player whose been injured all season when we've had enough injuries already and have a few players who have in the past 12 months had time out or signed players who signed whilst injured. It's really not a big thing. That's why I downvoted you because you're being really sensitive about something that really isn't that deep and just a discussion. | |
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