| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan 15:30 - Dec 31 with 8737 views | davblue |
If they can get a number 10 in to replace him. Straight swap with Clarke??
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 15:34 - Dec 31 with 7388 views | MK1 |
Having him on loan would be great. Jack is going nowhere. |  |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 15:46 - Dec 31 with 7238 views | gainsboroughblue |
Not sure the window is long enough to be pratting about with him and his agent. |  |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 15:50 - Dec 31 with 7120 views | FrimleyBlue |
I hope ashton sees the agent number call. Answer it laugh then hang up. |  |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 15:53 - Dec 31 with 7121 views | DarkBrandon |
I haven’t followed Villa, really. Has he played much? |  | | |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 15:57 - Dec 31 with 7064 views | Dubtractor |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 15:53 - Dec 31 by DarkBrandon |
I haven’t followed Villa, really. Has he played much? |
Not much at all. Fewer minutes that Clarke has had here (in the league anyway), and less of an impact.
Can't see that it would make any sense at all as a loan signing. |  |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 16:01 - Dec 31 with 7003 views | Mullet |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 15:57 - Dec 31 by Dubtractor |
Not much at all. Fewer minutes that Clarke has had here (in the league anyway), and less of an impact.
Can't see that it would make any sense at all as a loan signing. |
Philogene on loan from Villa
Played less than Clarke
Dub doesn’t think he’s the one
Who will dance
On the left
At our ground |  |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 16:19 - Dec 31 with 6820 views | WinchBlue |
Might be a fit.
KM has already demonstrated that he can get the best out of most players. Delap wasn’t an established prem forward when he signed.
I suppose it depends on on whether KM thinks he has the potential. |  | | |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 17:42 - Dec 31 with 6324 views | FrimleyBlue |
What about Buendia? | |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 17:58 - Dec 31 with 6221 views | ReusersTown |
Offer them £5m for all our time they wasted, and they might think twice about how they've depreciated their own asset by hoarding. |  | | |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 17:59 - Dec 31 with 6199 views | positivity |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 15:46 - Dec 31 by gainsboroughblue |
Not sure the window is long enough to be pratting about with him and his agent. |
probably chase him for a month, then we'll find out hull have a matching clause for any loan and he'll go there... | |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 19:55 - Dec 31 with 5720 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
Last thing we want to be doing in an important window is effing about with all that again, we need players through the door 1 and 2 Jan not 30 and 31 Jan.
In short the agent went for the dough and not the career progression of the player, he would have likely started most games for us and last night had his face splattered over every international sports platform if he joined us pre season branded as an young English forward, one to watch along with Hutch and Delap.
That's how you get value from a player as an agent, him sat on the bench at villa at 22 is a waste of time. | | | |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 21:46 - Dec 31 with 5279 views | ringwoodblue |
I reckon that ship has sailed. There’s better options out there. |  |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 22:37 - Dec 31 with 5059 views | Oldsmoker |
That phone call.
Villa : Hello
Mark Ashton : Hello Miss
Villa : I beg your pardon.
MA : I'm sorry, I have a cold.
Ends call. |  |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 02:19 - Jan 1 with 4631 views | melbs_itfc |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 15:57 - Dec 31 by Dubtractor |
Not much at all. Fewer minutes that Clarke has had here (in the league anyway), and less of an impact.
Can't see that it would make any sense at all as a loan signing. |
Philogene is/has been out with a hamstring injury for some time now. | | | |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 09:17 - Jan 1 with 4147 views | itfcjoe |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 15:57 - Dec 31 by Dubtractor |
Not much at all. Fewer minutes that Clarke has had here (in the league anyway), and less of an impact.
Can't see that it would make any sense at all as a loan signing. |
Maybe they just move him on as a permanent deal? He’s one we clearly really like and if we can get him now then I’d be all for it.
Wouldn’t be the first player to turn us down for a better option and then end up here a few months later - happened with George Hirst previously when we chased him all summer and he went to Blackburn then joined us in the January |  |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 09:31 - Jan 1 with 4038 views | iamipswich |
I've actually been told he is coming here.
Don't want to pretend to be Mr ITK but it has been fed back to me.
Could be wide of the mark but only commenting as I was told yesterday and you started this thread on him. |  |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 09:37 - Jan 1 with 3998 views | Mullet |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 09:17 - Jan 1 by itfcjoe |
Maybe they just move him on as a permanent deal? He’s one we clearly really like and if we can get him now then I’d be all for it.
Wouldn’t be the first player to turn us down for a better option and then end up here a few months later - happened with George Hirst previously when we chased him all summer and he went to Blackburn then joined us in the January |
Yep and he knows Delap and Greaves so can assimilate quickly | |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 09:52 - Jan 1 with 3863 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 09:17 - Jan 1 by itfcjoe |
Maybe they just move him on as a permanent deal? He’s one we clearly really like and if we can get him now then I’d be all for it.
Wouldn’t be the first player to turn us down for a better option and then end up here a few months later - happened with George Hirst previously when we chased him all summer and he went to Blackburn then joined us in the January |
If he was available cheaper than we were going to pay then I'd be all for it.very good player. I think from memory whilst he's played more on the left he has also played from.the right.
Whilst it was bad for us I hold no I'll feeling to the player. Wasn't his fault Villa waited so long to activate the clause and it was a great opportunity for him (champions league football etc). No issue with a player backing themselves. | |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 10:03 - Jan 1 with 3752 views | Dubtractor |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 09:17 - Jan 1 by itfcjoe |
Maybe they just move him on as a permanent deal? He’s one we clearly really like and if we can get him now then I’d be all for it.
Wouldn’t be the first player to turn us down for a better option and then end up here a few months later - happened with George Hirst previously when we chased him all summer and he went to Blackburn then joined us in the January |
Can see more sense in a permanent move, but not sure if Villa and Philogene would want to bail this early after all the drama in the Summer.
I'd also have reservations, as I think we need players in January who can have an immediate impact.
Would also mean us conceding that Clarke simply hasn't worked, and is not likely to.
Agree with your second para though, and we do tend to keep going back in when we identify a player we want! | |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 10:24 - Jan 1 with 3504 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 10:03 - Jan 1 by Dubtractor |
Can see more sense in a permanent move, but not sure if Villa and Philogene would want to bail this early after all the drama in the Summer.
I'd also have reservations, as I think we need players in January who can have an immediate impact.
Would also mean us conceding that Clarke simply hasn't worked, and is not likely to.
Agree with your second para though, and we do tend to keep going back in when we identify a player we want! |
Can Philiogene play on the right aswell? as we do need a new option with Ogbene out of action | |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 10:32 - Jan 1 with 3450 views | Ryorry |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 09:17 - Jan 1 by itfcjoe |
Maybe they just move him on as a permanent deal? He’s one we clearly really like and if we can get him now then I’d be all for it.
Wouldn’t be the first player to turn us down for a better option and then end up here a few months later - happened with George Hirst previously when we chased him all summer and he went to Blackburn then joined us in the January |
If he’s been out with a hammy for some length of time as per Melb’s post, then no thanks, have had it up to here with chronic or recurring injuries, esp hamstrings! |  |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 10:37 - Jan 1 with 3410 views | Dubtractor |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 10:24 - Jan 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Can Philiogene play on the right aswell? as we do need a new option with Ogbene out of action |
Don't know the answer to that - if it is a position he's good at, then maybe that's the answer. | |
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| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 11:25 - Jan 1 with 3075 views | Len_Brennan |
We have Broadhead, who has just gotten himself back into the starting XI, and Jack Clarke & Sammy Szmodics, who we paid a combined £25m in the Summer, currently fit & vying for the left-sided attacking role.
It is unlikely that we'd be prioritising an additional left winger in this window, especially when we are moving more to a 5 at the back formation, which calls more for a pair of #10s behind Delap (Hutchinson & Broadhead v Chelsea), than the 3 with clear right & left wing attackers.
Szmodics has had some success, & he works his socks off although he is not really comfortable in the formation we have, while it has been a tough step up for Clarke, but even still, I can't see us jettisoning either at this point, in order to bring in a player unproven at PL level, who has struggled with injury this season, even though the manager likes him & he was our first choice for the left side during the Summer.
We need to address the problem at right back & right sided attacker due to the Tuanzebe & Ogbene injuries, plus I think we'll move for 2 centre forwards/strikers, to cover Hirst's injury issues, Delap's likely drop off in form due to working so hard in his first full season of senior (Premier League) football, plus allowing Al Hamadi out on loan to z Championship club.
We will need to keep a PL loan spot for one of them surely. | | | |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 11:28 - Jan 1 with 3044 views | RedX |
I thought he looked good for Villa when he played. He has that aggression needed to play as a winger at this level. Obviously has lots of talent too. I’d take him in a heartbeat. |  | | |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 11:29 - Jan 1 with 3014 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Few rumours around that Philogene might be leaving Villa in jan on 11:25 - Jan 1 by Len_Brennan |
We have Broadhead, who has just gotten himself back into the starting XI, and Jack Clarke & Sammy Szmodics, who we paid a combined £25m in the Summer, currently fit & vying for the left-sided attacking role.
It is unlikely that we'd be prioritising an additional left winger in this window, especially when we are moving more to a 5 at the back formation, which calls more for a pair of #10s behind Delap (Hutchinson & Broadhead v Chelsea), than the 3 with clear right & left wing attackers.
Szmodics has had some success, & he works his socks off although he is not really comfortable in the formation we have, while it has been a tough step up for Clarke, but even still, I can't see us jettisoning either at this point, in order to bring in a player unproven at PL level, who has struggled with injury this season, even though the manager likes him & he was our first choice for the left side during the Summer.
We need to address the problem at right back & right sided attacker due to the Tuanzebe & Ogbene injuries, plus I think we'll move for 2 centre forwards/strikers, to cover Hirst's injury issues, Delap's likely drop off in form due to working so hard in his first full season of senior (Premier League) football, plus allowing Al Hamadi out on loan to z Championship club.
We will need to keep a PL loan spot for one of them surely. |
Maybe J Clarke hasn't settled in the area and we think it might be best to send him back home for the rest of the season | |
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