| How would you rate Town managers? 09:36 - Feb 19 with 6177 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
Reading the debate on McKenna vs Burley as number three, how does everyone rate most of our managers historically?
I would go with this:
1. Sir Alf Ramsay
2. Sir Bobby Robson
3. George Burley
4. John Lyall
5. Bill McGarry
6. Kieran McKenna
7. Joe Royle
8. Scott Duncan
9. Mick O’Brien
10. Mick McCarthy
11. Jim Magilton
12. Bobby Furguson
13. John Duncan
14. Jackie Milburn
15. Roy Keane
16. Paul Jewell
17. Paul Lambert
18. Paul Cook
19. Paul Hurst
Marcus Evans had some record for appointing good managers....
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 09:42 - Feb 19 with 3558 views | Pique |
Sorry, but John Lyall above Kieran McKenna? In fact, two places above him?! Not in a million years. After a wonderful promotion campaign the bloke effectively abandoned us to McGiven-ball and richly deserved the sack when it finally came (too late). |  | | |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 09:46 - Feb 19 with 3529 views | RobTheMonk |
Cook above Lambert just because he started clearing the deadwood. |  | | |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 09:54 - Feb 19 with 3489 views | BlueBadger |
Keane and Lambert were WAY worse than Cook and Jewell, they were just old lags out of their depth and/or looking for easy paydays for their mates rather than trying to do a proper job.
It could be argued that Lambert was at least as bad as Hurst with Keane proudly sitting at the bottom. [Post edited 19 Feb 10:15]
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:00 - Feb 19 with 3448 views | NedPlimpton |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 09:46 - Feb 19 by RobTheMonk |
Cook above Lambert just because he started clearing the deadwood. |
Lambert 100% below Cook, possibly also below Hurst.
Lambert led us to our lowest league position for over 60 years. Ok, it was repeated a couple of years later, but at least then we had the building blocks of the side that would go on to win back to back promotions.
We've got absolutely nothing to thank Lambert for, but at least Cook gave us Morsy, Walton, Burns, Chaplin, Burgess etc |  | | |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:08 - Feb 19 with 3362 views | BlueBadger |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:00 - Feb 19 by NedPlimpton |
Lambert 100% below Cook, possibly also below Hurst.
Lambert led us to our lowest league position for over 60 years. Ok, it was repeated a couple of years later, but at least then we had the building blocks of the side that would go on to win back to back promotions.
We've got absolutely nothing to thank Lambert for, but at least Cook gave us Morsy, Walton, Burns, Chaplin, Burgess etc |
The definitive bottom five is(in order of crapness:
5.Cook
4.Jewell
2. Hurst = Lambert
1. Keane | |
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:20 - Feb 19 with 3318 views | Churchman |
McKenna above McGarry and Lyall, Scott Duncan above Royle. The rabble at the bottom:
Milburn
Cook
Lambert
Jewell
Keane
Hurst
Just how appalling was Evans’ judgement? At the opposite end, in recruiting Ramsey, Robson and McGarry, how good were the Cobbold’s’? The only poor one was Milburn, who was apparently a lovely, honest bloke who quickly recognised it wasn’t for him. |  | | |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:22 - Feb 19 with 3307 views | positivity |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:00 - Feb 19 by NedPlimpton |
Lambert 100% below Cook, possibly also below Hurst.
Lambert led us to our lowest league position for over 60 years. Ok, it was repeated a couple of years later, but at least then we had the building blocks of the side that would go on to win back to back promotions.
We've got absolutely nothing to thank Lambert for, but at least Cook gave us Morsy, Walton, Burns, Chaplin, Burgess etc |
bit unfair, lambert gave us josh harrop |  |
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:28 - Feb 19 with 3286 views | NedPlimpton |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:08 - Feb 19 by BlueBadger |
The definitive bottom five is(in order of crapness:
5.Cook
4.Jewell
2. Hurst = Lambert
1. Keane |
I wasn't around to see it, but Jackie Milburn's time as manager must rank somewhere amongst this lot?
It sounds like an absolute car crash. And thanks to him we're forever reminded of the 1963 boxing day defeat to fulham! [Post edited 19 Feb 10:28]
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:34 - Feb 19 with 3231 views | norfsufblue |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:28 - Feb 19 by NedPlimpton |
I wasn't around to see it, but Jackie Milburn's time as manager must rank somewhere amongst this lot?
It sounds like an absolute car crash. And thanks to him we're forever reminded of the 1963 boxing day defeat to fulham! [Post edited 19 Feb 10:28]
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Although Jackie Milburn is created widely with bringing in our embryonic youth policy so must give him some kudos if that is correct |  | | |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:37 - Feb 19 with 3203 views | DarkBrandon |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 09:42 - Feb 19 by Pique |
Sorry, but John Lyall above Kieran McKenna? In fact, two places above him?! Not in a million years. After a wonderful promotion campaign the bloke effectively abandoned us to McGiven-ball and richly deserved the sack when it finally came (too late). |
I think you are harsh on Lyall, who basically semi-retired, but hung around to help a little.
That's not really abandoning us.
But yes. Turning a mid-table second division squad into champions was a significant feat, but McKenna's achievements top that by some way. |  | | |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:46 - Feb 19 with 3152 views | Guthrum |
I'd probably put Roy Keane at the bottom. He took Town from a position of challenging for the play-offs to fighting relegation, while wasting a good deal of Evans' initial money and enthusiasm. Onto a trajectory it took us nearly 11 years to fully turn around (the efforts of the first half of McCarthy's tenure notwithstanding). |  |
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:49 - Feb 19 with 3129 views | homer_123 |
I've always wondered whether Robson and Ramsey should be joint first? |  |
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:49 - Feb 19 with 3124 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
Controversially, I'd put Mick McCarthy higher.
He had us playing boring football, but was hamstrung by Evans and still kept us treading water in the Championship. Had he remained longer, through to Evans selling, we would have arguably been in a stronger position for rebuilding. On the other hand, maybe the relegation to L1 was needed to get rid of Evans, but that was not down to McCarthy who, IMO, achieved more than could have been expected with the hand he was dealt. | | | |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:50 - Feb 19 with 3113 views | homer_123 |
Downvote for getting Sir Alf's name wrong. | |
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:50 - Feb 19 with 3120 views | turtle2 |
Robson = 1
Ramsey = 2
McKenna = 3
Burley = 4
What McKenna has done is astonishing
Ramsey i know too but Robson the best - c'mon ! | | | |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:58 - Feb 19 with 3066 views | Ftnfwest |
Close at the moment - Burley with greater achievements at the top level but McKenna lifted us from far greater depths in a more difficult era. If we survive I think Kieran goes third and even if we go down but are at least in play off contention, whether he leaves or stays, he would as well. Burleys one big black mark was that he technically left us in a worse position than when he started but it was the start to the slide into admin which wasn't really his fault.
Agree with other comments about Cook should be a bit higher (certainly above Keane as even Jewell should be.)
I liked Lyall but he's a bit too high, somebody like Scott Duncan's achievements were pretty considerable in his day. |  | | |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:59 - Feb 19 with 3070 views | ITFC_Forever |
McKenna should be higher.
Cook should be higher.
Keane should be lower. |  |
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 11:00 - Feb 19 with 3050 views | homer_123 |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:59 - Feb 19 by ITFC_Forever |
McKenna should be higher.
Cook should be higher.
Keane should be lower. |
Can we remove Keane altogether? | |
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 11:02 - Feb 19 with 3019 views | Ftnfwest |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 11:00 - Feb 19 by homer_123 |
Can we remove Keane altogether? |
and McCarthy so they can just go and have a fight in a room somewhere | | | |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 11:06 - Feb 19 with 2996 views | Reuser_is_God |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:59 - Feb 19 by ITFC_Forever |
McKenna should be higher.
Cook should be higher.
Keane should be lower. |
Keane & Lambert battling it out for bottom spot for me. |  |
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 11:59 - Feb 19 with 2865 views | SitfcB |
Paul Lambert should be rock bottom. |  |
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 12:02 - Feb 19 with 2850 views | Charlie_pl_baxter |
Mid table for big Mick? He'd take that |  |
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 12:03 - Feb 19 with 2848 views | SitfcB |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 10:49 - Feb 19 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Controversially, I'd put Mick McCarthy higher.
He had us playing boring football, but was hamstrung by Evans and still kept us treading water in the Championship. Had he remained longer, through to Evans selling, we would have arguably been in a stronger position for rebuilding. On the other hand, maybe the relegation to L1 was needed to get rid of Evans, but that was not down to McCarthy who, IMO, achieved more than could have been expected with the hand he was dealt. |
The play-off season was far from boring. | |
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 12:10 - Feb 19 with 2795 views | Reuser_is_God |
| How would you rate Town managers? on 12:02 - Feb 19 by Charlie_pl_baxter |
Mid table for big Mick? He'd take that |
Wouldn’t get off the bus. | |
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| How would you rate Town managers? on 12:11 - Feb 19 with 2790 views | wischip |
You can swap a few people 1 up 1 down until the cows come home but surely the one universal truth is please, no more Pauls. |  | | |
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