| FAO any Yankee Blues. 10:41 - Feb 19 with 6150 views | Lord_Lucan |
Getting a bit nervous here chaps.
What is the consensus over there re the orange one?
Are people swallowing it, or, is there a chance the crazy loon could get overthrown?
Are there any adults in the room?
More importantly..... Are any parts of the media criticising him or have they all been silenced? |  |
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| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 17:22 - Feb 19 with 1852 views | mrshallisfit |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 10:52 - Feb 19 by Lord_Lucan |
Starmer doesn't have the ability to screw the world, with much regret he is insignificant.
He may be a complete clown but he isn't globally dangerous. |
He does seem to largely adhere to the that thing called the truth. |  | | |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 17:25 - Feb 19 with 1847 views | iamatractorboy |
I don't think he cares about anything, or anyone, other than himself, one of his daughters, and his golf handicap. | | | |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 17:33 - Feb 19 with 1807 views | Mercian |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 10:44 - Feb 19 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
What about the unhinged right winger running our country and threatening to put boots on the ground in Ukraine? All very well to have a pop ay the Americans when we elect people from the same sphere as they do. |
Whataboutism is a cheap tactic even when it is correct. When it is bullsh*t it is even worse. |  | | |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 17:35 - Feb 19 with 1804 views | Dubtractor |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 17:17 - Feb 19 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Fat fingers accidentally up arrowed this, someone please balance it out for me. |
I did wonder when I saw your name there! |  |
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| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 18:34 - Feb 19 with 1713 views | StokieBlue |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 17:09 - Feb 19 by pointofblue |
If Russia starts to feel emboldened and makes moves against the Eastern European countries who are already part of NATO... |
Seems unlikely.
They were hugely struggling with Ukraine, don't think they have the means to really attempt that.
Nothing in it for them either, Ukraine being outside NATO is very different to attacking a NATO and EU country.
Might be wrong of course but at the moment it doesn't seem likely.
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| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 18:35 - Feb 19 with 1705 views | Lord_Lucan |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 17:22 - Feb 19 by mrshallisfit |
He does seem to largely adhere to the that thing called the truth. |
I'm an elderly bloke mate.
In my watch I've seen Heath, Wilson, Callaghan, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron, May, Boris, Truss, Sunak and Starmer.
Contrary to TW4TD folklore I am a reasonably intelligent man. I went to a grammar school don't you know! 
I gotta tell ya, aside from Truss, and possibly May, Starmer is a big sh1t stick compared to any of the others. | |
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| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 18:57 - Feb 19 with 1655 views | MattinLondon |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 13:28 - Feb 19 by Lord_Lucan |
Gotta say Illy, I’m really struggling with this whole thing.
I’m convinced the balloon is gonna go up.
Putin must be the happiest man on earth. Thank Christ for the Eastern Europeans, they still have fire in their belly. Can’t rely on namby pamby Western Europe not to fold.
We should be on a war footing. [Post edited 19 Feb 13:50]
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I have to agree with you - if Europe had been far stronger with Russia after they annexed the Crimea, Putin would probably not have invaded fully. And I can’t believe that European powers allowed themselves to be so dependent on Russia for oil and gas.
It was painfully obvious that old man Joe wouldn’t last a second term and that the orange man baby would stand a good chance of re-election. Europe needed to be a lot more aggressive or quicker in sending a lot more arms and aid to Ukraine.
A man like Putin (and Trump) only respect force -namby pamby nice words will just leave him looking at the map to see what other states to invade.
I do expect leaders to have some backbone and to stand-up to bullies like Putin. But at a time when they needed massive balls and massive tits they mostly had micro penises and A-cups.
Now Trump is w**king off Putin so the entire continent is at risk. |  | | |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 19:01 - Feb 19 with 1632 views | J2BLUE |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 18:35 - Feb 19 by Lord_Lucan |
I'm an elderly bloke mate.
In my watch I've seen Heath, Wilson, Callaghan, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron, May, Boris, Truss, Sunak and Starmer.
Contrary to TW4TD folklore I am a reasonably intelligent man. I went to a grammar school don't you know!
I gotta tell ya, aside from Truss, and possibly May, Starmer is a big sh1t stick compared to any of the others. |
How so? |  |
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| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 19:04 - Feb 19 with 1627 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 19:01 - Feb 19 by J2BLUE |
How so? |
I'll take a guess it's that he doesn't believe in anything. |  |
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| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 20:39 - Feb 19 with 1472 views | Bigalhunter |
Sister in law on my wife’s side married a lovely guy with U.S. citizenship and moved there nearly forty years ago.
They live in Orange County in a gorgeous house, both are extremely intelligent and have excellent jobs in private healthcare.
They’re both proud Trump voters.
Me and my wife spent a month with them back in December/early January, and it was an absolute eye opener. It’s extraordinary to think that two people we genuinely love and care about, and have shared so many months with every other year since the late 80’s, have gradually morphed into Trump apologists.
On the rare occasions we watched the news, the default was Fox News. She’s of Persian parentage, his parents are Kosovan, his brother is gay, so to hear them moaning about immigrants and minority rights ruining America, without a sense of irony, was almost surreal.
They’re not in what you might consider to be the typical Trump voting demographic and both their daughters, who are in their early thirties, despise everything he stands for and have had to declare politics a no-go area of discussion during get-togethers, purely because of it.
It’s something that we still can’t quite get our heads around seven weeks after we got back home. |  |
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| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 21:06 - Feb 19 with 1419 views | iamatractorboy |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 20:39 - Feb 19 by Bigalhunter |
Sister in law on my wife’s side married a lovely guy with U.S. citizenship and moved there nearly forty years ago.
They live in Orange County in a gorgeous house, both are extremely intelligent and have excellent jobs in private healthcare.
They’re both proud Trump voters.
Me and my wife spent a month with them back in December/early January, and it was an absolute eye opener. It’s extraordinary to think that two people we genuinely love and care about, and have shared so many months with every other year since the late 80’s, have gradually morphed into Trump apologists.
On the rare occasions we watched the news, the default was Fox News. She’s of Persian parentage, his parents are Kosovan, his brother is gay, so to hear them moaning about immigrants and minority rights ruining America, without a sense of irony, was almost surreal.
They’re not in what you might consider to be the typical Trump voting demographic and both their daughters, who are in their early thirties, despise everything he stands for and have had to declare politics a no-go area of discussion during get-togethers, purely because of it.
It’s something that we still can’t quite get our heads around seven weeks after we got back home. |
That's the thing; Trump wouldn't have won with just the stereotypical Trump voters (we all know what I mean...), he needed these other voters, and it boggles my mind how seemingly intelligent (and 'nice') people can vote for such a transparently obvious monster. | | | |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 21:27 - Feb 19 with 1344 views | reusersfreekicks |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 10:44 - Feb 19 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
What about the unhinged right winger running our country and threatening to put boots on the ground in Ukraine? All very well to have a pop ay the Americans when we elect people from the same sphere as they do. |
Brainless cretin |  | | |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 22:06 - Feb 19 with 1308 views | MVBlue |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 20:39 - Feb 19 by Bigalhunter |
Sister in law on my wife’s side married a lovely guy with U.S. citizenship and moved there nearly forty years ago.
They live in Orange County in a gorgeous house, both are extremely intelligent and have excellent jobs in private healthcare.
They’re both proud Trump voters.
Me and my wife spent a month with them back in December/early January, and it was an absolute eye opener. It’s extraordinary to think that two people we genuinely love and care about, and have shared so many months with every other year since the late 80’s, have gradually morphed into Trump apologists.
On the rare occasions we watched the news, the default was Fox News. She’s of Persian parentage, his parents are Kosovan, his brother is gay, so to hear them moaning about immigrants and minority rights ruining America, without a sense of irony, was almost surreal.
They’re not in what you might consider to be the typical Trump voting demographic and both their daughters, who are in their early thirties, despise everything he stands for and have had to declare politics a no-go area of discussion during get-togethers, purely because of it.
It’s something that we still can’t quite get our heads around seven weeks after we got back home. |
Non typical Trump voters with massive houses living the American dream with right wing sympathies, I'm guessing their views are:
1. We worked hard so deserve it
2. Biden and the lefties gave too much of our USA tax money to Ukraine
3. Strong man sympathies
4. Republican low tax USA low tax American dream
5. All the immigrants, there's too many we need a strong response
6. America first we came to USA for the strong nation Fox news says we need to do what Trump says |  |
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| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 23:34 - Feb 19 with 1192 views | Bigalhunter |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 22:06 - Feb 19 by MVBlue |
Non typical Trump voters with massive houses living the American dream with right wing sympathies, I'm guessing their views are:
1. We worked hard so deserve it
2. Biden and the lefties gave too much of our USA tax money to Ukraine
3. Strong man sympathies
4. Republican low tax USA low tax American dream
5. All the immigrants, there's too many we need a strong response
6. America first we came to USA for the strong nation Fox news says we need to do what Trump says |
Points 1,4 and 5 certainly apply to them.
Point 2 doesn’t because, bizarrely, they actually sympathise with the Ukrainian plight.
My brother-in-law was showing signs of this, going back to when Obama was president, maintaining Obama was an anti-semite.
For context, my-brother-in law is Kosovan of Jewish heritage.
My eldest daughter got married in Tuscany in May 2022, and it was touch and go whether they would be able to come because they wouldn’t have the Covid vaccine.
He’s a dentist and she’s a senior administrator at a medical centre.
As the yanks say, go figure. [Post edited 19 Feb 23:41]
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| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 10:48 - Feb 20 with 1004 views | NewcyBlue |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 18:35 - Feb 19 by Lord_Lucan |
I'm an elderly bloke mate.
In my watch I've seen Heath, Wilson, Callaghan, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron, May, Boris, Truss, Sunak and Starmer.
Contrary to TW4TD folklore I am a reasonably intelligent man. I went to a grammar school don't you know!
I gotta tell ya, aside from Truss, and possibly May, Starmer is a big sh1t stick compared to any of the others. |
You think less of Starmer than you do Johnson and Truss? |  |
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| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 10:52 - Feb 20 with 978 views | Pinewoodblue |
Democrats who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for a woman of colour share the responsibility. |  |
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| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 10:55 - Feb 20 with 962 views | DanTheMan |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 23:34 - Feb 19 by Bigalhunter |
Points 1,4 and 5 certainly apply to them.
Point 2 doesn’t because, bizarrely, they actually sympathise with the Ukrainian plight.
My brother-in-law was showing signs of this, going back to when Obama was president, maintaining Obama was an anti-semite.
For context, my-brother-in law is Kosovan of Jewish heritage.
My eldest daughter got married in Tuscany in May 2022, and it was touch and go whether they would be able to come because they wouldn’t have the Covid vaccine.
He’s a dentist and she’s a senior administrator at a medical centre.
As the yanks say, go figure. [Post edited 19 Feb 23:41]
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On point 2 I think you're right.
The /r/conservative subreddit almost always agrees with whatever the hell Trump is doing but even this seems to be a step too far for most of them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1it94t4/trump_finally_calls_out_t |  |
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| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 11:36 - Feb 20 with 829 views | Churchman |
Interesting article or opinion on what America is doing. It’s important as it points the way the U.K. needs to go.
https://carnegieendowment.org/emissary/2025/02/trump-executive-order-treaties-or
As I see it, it’s simple. There is no room in the world for an independent U.K. unless it is able to take a positive world view and interact and trade with like minded countries. Historically the U.K. is a trading nation, industrialisation forming only a relatively small part of its history. It is an island nation so its picture of the world is very different to people living in Europe (according to some German acquaintances of mine).
This provides potential opportunities in the world but also in concert with Europe. It was never more important than now to put behind Brexit and move forward with our neighbours. America is indeed moving back to its pre 1941 isolationism. Who cares.
So, sad that the break up of order that delivered 80 years without a world war is, it’s time to move forward. That requires leadership, courage, initiative and vision. Does Starmer possess any of these qualities? Time will tell, starting with his meeting with Trump.
We owe America nothing. He will gain nothing re Ukraine or anything else. That’s finished for them along with NATO, UN, WHO, UNESCO etc etc. But he can learn exactly what the short term relationship the US will be (hopefully Trump will die soon) and that can only help form future actions.
Look forward, not back. Part of that is arming ourselves sufficiently to be left unmolested and fear free. Britain and its allies first. |  | | |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 11:40 - Feb 20 with 806 views | PassionNotAnger |
| FAO any Yankee Blues. on 19:01 - Feb 19 by J2BLUE |
How so? |
He's a Tory that only cares about his business making money for himself? | | | |
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