| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. 11:14 - Feb 23 with 4319 views | Simonds92 |
Unfortunately our right back had a shocker. But we've gone toe to toe with Spurs and although we've been beaten 4-1, we could have conceivably won the game if we were more effective at crucial points in the game. 90% of the game we are well in it. It's just the story of our season, I think we've almost been good enough. The difference is the better teams maximise the chances they get and are so clinical.
As much as I don't enjoy everything that comes with the Premier League, I've quite enjoyed a lot of our performances. The level of this league is ridiculous and for us to compete as well as we have, I think, is impressive.
Unfortunately, it looks like it will be a case of nearly. If we'd have signed Palmer in August and / or had competent officials, the noise around our club would be a lot more positive.
I can understand criticism after Southampton and things may not look so bleak if we'd have taken the 6 points off them that we should have done. But ultimately, I think we all need to stay with the group and show understanding of the levels we're up against and the level we're playing at ourselves.
Not too long ago we watched our team put up a pathetic performance in the Championship, getting relegated with no style of play, no passion and very little quality in the team. We are a million miles away from that this season. [Post edited 23 Feb 11:17]
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 13:30 - Feb 23 with 1501 views | textbackup |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 13:29 - Feb 23 by portmanking |
Absolute nonsense.
You see a team fighting that's just not quite cut out for this level... yet.
Very different to watching a team that's too good for a level. Makes a team look like they've got a lot more 'fight'. |
You can have an opinion, I’ll have mine. If that’s ok |  |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 13:42 - Feb 23 with 1471 views | Simonds92 |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 13:30 - Feb 23 by textbackup |
You can have an opinion, I’ll have mine. If that’s ok |
Feels a bit like throwing your toys out the pram because we're no longer winning every week. To suggest we're not showing fight is ridiculous. | | | |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 13:48 - Feb 23 with 1447 views | sjg |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 13:42 - Feb 23 by Simonds92 |
Feels a bit like throwing your toys out the pram because we're no longer winning every week. To suggest we're not showing fight is ridiculous. |
Do you think the level of fight character b0llocks whatever you want to call it is the same this year as it was for the last 2? Because I don’t, to be honest | | | |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:10 - Feb 23 with 1396 views | Herbivore |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 13:20 - Feb 23 by textbackup |
Yeah, but it didn’t count, did it.
I don’t see a team fighting like I have the last 2 seasons. |
You don't see a team winning like you have the last two season and rather than trying to get some perspective about why that is, you just piss and moan about simplistic nonsense like not wanting it enough. There's no lack of fight or effort, we just aren't quite good enough. |  |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:11 - Feb 23 with 1395 views | Simonds92 |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 13:48 - Feb 23 by sjg |
Do you think the level of fight character b0llocks whatever you want to call it is the same this year as it was for the last 2? Because I don’t, to be honest |
Yes, but we're playing in the elite league on the planet, meaning the small advantages we had over teams last season, enabling us to score last minute goals just aren't there.
There's definitely a conversation to be had about whether we ripped up too much of the successful squad who had a real understanding of eachother's game. But then we've also found that a lot of those players have struggled with the intensity and picked up injuries. I just don't think the club deserve the level of criticism they're getting. We are so very close to being decent enough to stay up but we've just fallen a bit short. | | | |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:12 - Feb 23 with 1388 views | Herbivore |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 12:25 - Feb 23 by rattram |
I'm surprised SIMONDS92 says the RB had a shocker, but doesn't mention Davis. He may have had about 20 assists over the last 2 seasons, but he watches the ball and has no idea where his opponents are. Both Johnson goals were his fault and in my opinion this has happened too often this season with him. |
Having watched the goals back, for the second one he's picking up Tel who has dropped in behind Greaves without Greaves seeming to know where he is. If he steps out on to Johnson then he leaves Tel unmarked. There's a lack of communication clearly between Greaves and Davis to ensure they're covering their men, but it's simplistic to just blame it on Davis. And for me Godfrey is the one most culpable for both goals, he doesn't do anywhere near enough. | |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:14 - Feb 23 with 1356 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:12 - Feb 23 by Herbivore |
Having watched the goals back, for the second one he's picking up Tel who has dropped in behind Greaves without Greaves seeming to know where he is. If he steps out on to Johnson then he leaves Tel unmarked. There's a lack of communication clearly between Greaves and Davis to ensure they're covering their men, but it's simplistic to just blame it on Davis. And for me Godfrey is the one most culpable for both goals, he doesn't do anywhere near enough. |
You don't leave your man herbz. If Tel scores. That's on greaves.
I agree about godfrey.
Godfrey has to be one of the strangest signings we've made under KM. |  |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:18 - Feb 23 with 1354 views | Pinewoodblue |
Two facts, from the season so far.
Nottingham Forest have won 10 out of 11 games against teams currently in bottom half of the table. Ipswich are the only team to take a point off them.
Chelsea have only lost 1 game against teams currently in bottom half of the table. Ipswich beat them.
Yet on balance we deserve currently be in a relegation spot.
Fine margins, as KMc often says but that doesn’t just relate to events on the field. Some of Kieran’s decision making have contributed. Decisions about starting eleven, formation & substitutions have also played a part.
Like many I didn’t expect Godfrey & Davis to start yesterday, Woolfenden & Townsend having done so well against Villa.
We can still stay up but it now requires Wolves to slip up in games against Town , Leicester & Southampton while Town must win against Wolves & Leicester. |  |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:19 - Feb 23 with 1353 views | sjg |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:11 - Feb 23 by Simonds92 |
Yes, but we're playing in the elite league on the planet, meaning the small advantages we had over teams last season, enabling us to score last minute goals just aren't there.
There's definitely a conversation to be had about whether we ripped up too much of the successful squad who had a real understanding of eachother's game. But then we've also found that a lot of those players have struggled with the intensity and picked up injuries. I just don't think the club deserve the level of criticism they're getting. We are so very close to being decent enough to stay up but we've just fallen a bit short. |
Come the end of the season I will be surprised if the table tells the story that we are really close to being good enough to stay up to be honest.
You make a good point re ability to deal with intensity etc - which makes it even more frustrating that we spent so much on players that have never played in this league.
And my point is not that I expect to score last minute goals every week, I didn’t go into the season expecting that and don’t now. I just can’t see many players giving that extra 10% which we were lucky enough to have over the last couple of seasons - unfair to highlight individuals but Chaplin, Wolfie and Burgess have continued to demonstrate it while playing and have gone through spells where they have looked better than their ‘replacements’, and have given that extra 10% that I don’t think we get from some of the new boys, who don’t have the same connection with the club and the fans as the players from the last couple of seasons have built. | | | |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:36 - Feb 23 with 1315 views | textbackup |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:10 - Feb 23 by Herbivore |
You don't see a team winning like you have the last two season and rather than trying to get some perspective about why that is, you just piss and moan about simplistic nonsense like not wanting it enough. There's no lack of fight or effort, we just aren't quite good enough. |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:38 - Feb 23 with 1299 views | BlueOura |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:18 - Feb 23 by Pinewoodblue |
Two facts, from the season so far.
Nottingham Forest have won 10 out of 11 games against teams currently in bottom half of the table. Ipswich are the only team to take a point off them.
Chelsea have only lost 1 game against teams currently in bottom half of the table. Ipswich beat them.
Yet on balance we deserve currently be in a relegation spot.
Fine margins, as KMc often says but that doesn’t just relate to events on the field. Some of Kieran’s decision making have contributed. Decisions about starting eleven, formation & substitutions have also played a part.
Like many I didn’t expect Godfrey & Davis to start yesterday, Woolfenden & Townsend having done so well against Villa.
We can still stay up but it now requires Wolves to slip up in games against Town , Leicester & Southampton while Town must win against Wolves & Leicester. |
We lost 1-0 at Forest. |  | | |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 15:25 - Feb 23 with 1243 views | Vic |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 13:20 - Feb 23 by textbackup |
Yeah, but it didn’t count, did it.
I don’t see a team fighting like I have the last 2 seasons. |
You’re being silly again Texters |  |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 15:26 - Feb 23 with 1235 views | Pinewoodblue |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 14:38 - Feb 23 by BlueOura |
We lost 1-0 at Forest. |
We drew at home | |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 15:30 - Feb 23 with 1226 views | Vic |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 13:48 - Feb 23 by sjg |
Do you think the level of fight character b0llocks whatever you want to call it is the same this year as it was for the last 2? Because I don’t, to be honest |
I think 100% fight looks different when you’re winning and confidence is high to what it does when you’re consistently doing your best only to find it’s not enough. I’m sure they are absolutely giving it 100% but your edge goes, things don’t come off, your hesitate a little and everything is just a bit harder.
None of that means that the effort is less. | |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 15:33 - Feb 23 with 1216 views | Dubtractor |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 15:26 - Feb 23 by Pinewoodblue |
We drew at home |
Have you got a time machine? |  |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 15:42 - Feb 23 with 1178 views | Pinewoodblue |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 15:33 - Feb 23 by Dubtractor |
Have you got a time machine? |
We did last time we played. Guess I give myself a whoosh | |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 16:10 - Feb 23 with 1133 views | bournemouthblue |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 11:36 - Feb 23 by Wallingford_Boy |
I think losing 4-1 to a side most (including us) have beaten comfortably this season is the reason people are, quite rightly, criticising the team.
Yes there were some good performances, but defensively we are just so naive and it’s cost us big time this season. |
Albeit the strongest side Spurs have named for a while
They had but Ndogie and Vicario back yesterday and seem to have tightened up at the back since Danso came in
Aren't they one of the highest scoring sides in the league this year? |  |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 16:24 - Feb 23 with 1110 views | LankHenners |
It was the sort of game that had it happened earlier in the season, people would be happier picking the positives out of it and feeling like there's something there to build on. As it is, we just need points on the board now and each defeat makes it feel like we're less and less likely to pick enough of them up.
The Southampton game was the real dagger. Had we won that and yesterday still went as it did, Wolves would have just overtaken us by a couple of points and the narrative would be 'keep pace with them and we can overtake them when we play them'. |  |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 17:49 - Feb 23 with 1024 views | bazza |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 12:31 - Feb 23 by textbackup |
We’ve won 1 home game all season.
We’re absolutely going down with a whimper. We’ve no fight or character about us |
Champions league football wouldn’t have satisfied you, ya miserable old git 😂 |  | | |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 18:01 - Feb 23 with 984 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 13:20 - Feb 23 by textbackup |
Yeah, but it didn’t count, did it.
I don’t see a team fighting like I have the last 2 seasons. |
Absolutely ludicrous take.
Why is it so hard for some people to fathom that we just down have a good enough squad to compete at the level.
Lack of quality, yes. Lack of fight, no.
It does not need to be overcomplicated as much as it is |  |
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| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 18:15 - Feb 23 with 958 views | ITFCSG |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 16:10 - Feb 23 by bournemouthblue |
Albeit the strongest side Spurs have named for a while
They had but Ndogie and Vicario back yesterday and seem to have tightened up at the back since Danso came in
Aren't they one of the highest scoring sides in the league this year? |
They are high-scoring, but they also have thrown away the most points after taking the lead - even more than us! | | | |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 09:45 - Feb 24 with 745 views | dirtyboy |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 11:24 - Feb 23 by redrickstuhaart |
Worth nothing that if we beat wolves there is only 2 points in it. And we were cheated out ot 2 points against Leicester by yesterday's disgrace of an official.
It is fine margins. |
If we're relegated by the Leicester debacle or 1 goal difference because of the Spurs game and the head injury, the ref will need more than security next time he ever gets to manage an Ipswich game.
I thought we played really well to be honest, doesn't mean s**t but I'm generally comfortable when we look okay and not under the cosh permanently, which didn't happen.
Just got punished for every mistake again.
Hey ho
Genuinely looking forward to being back in the Championship, learn from this experience, get to go to more games, Saturday/Tuesday and all the refs are equally s**t for every team lol! |  | | |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 22:27 - Feb 26 with 495 views | sjg |
| I find it incredibly harsh that people are criticising the team after yesterday. on 13:48 - Feb 23 by sjg |
Do you think the level of fight character b0llocks whatever you want to call it is the same this year as it was for the last 2? Because I don’t, to be honest |
Wise words | | | |
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