| Andy Rolls Injury list 23:53 - Mar 3 with 2728 views | sitocastro |
Google the title and it's telling....
Previous clubs had the same issues and other supports expressed their concerns, only right we ask the question now too?. |  | | |  |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 00:02 - Mar 4 with 2640 views | BondiBlue |
He's been with us for years and this is the first season we've had more than an average number of injuries (although that's a feeling rather than fact - i haven't researched it). I'd suggest we instead blame the intensity of games against super-fit athletes and the level of training required to get players fit enough to compete. | |
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 00:10 - Mar 4 with 2608 views | stonojnr |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 00:02 - Mar 4 by BondiBlue |
He's been with us for years and this is the first season we've had more than an average number of injuries (although that's a feeling rather than fact - i haven't researched it). I'd suggest we instead blame the intensity of games against super-fit athletes and the level of training required to get players fit enough to compete. |
I cant remember the exact stat but it was something McKenna mentioned when we were in league 1 about fitness levels required in football and the amount of time the ball was in play for each of the leagues.
and unsurprisingly the Premier league is at the top of the list in terms of minutes the ball is in play, and the amount of distance you have to cover, and the speed too, even though you play less games, the physical efforts required are considerably higher and demand much higher levels of fitness than the lower leagues.
so alot of the injuries we are seeing are to do with the workload the players have to cope with in the Premiership. thats why you have a squad of players and you rotate them as best you can.
fortunately we dont have many games this month so can use the time to recover. | | | |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 00:19 - Mar 4 with 2575 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 00:02 - Mar 4 by BondiBlue |
He's been with us for years and this is the first season we've had more than an average number of injuries (although that's a feeling rather than fact - i haven't researched it). I'd suggest we instead blame the intensity of games against super-fit athletes and the level of training required to get players fit enough to compete. |
We had some bad injuries last season too, Hirst, Burns, Axel, Donacien, Clarke and others. All key players and at crucial moments. |  |
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 00:50 - Mar 4 with 2485 views | Ryorry |
Hmm, interesting for sure. Whilst he was at Bristol City, they had an "unusually high number of hamstring injuries in particular" https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/head-bristol-citys-me
Could just be coincidence of course.
In mid-Dec we were second-top of the 'most injuries' list after Brighton. Dread to think where we are now - easily top of the list? And people moan about KM not *choosing* to field a settled side! |  |
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 01:07 - Mar 4 with 2430 views | itfctilidie |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 00:19 - Mar 4 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
We had some bad injuries last season too, Hirst, Burns, Axel, Donacien, Clarke and others. All key players and at crucial moments. |
The name that keeps popping up on these lists is 'Axel". great player but not robust enough for top flight football unfortunately. |  | | |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 01:54 - Mar 4 with 2345 views | itfcsuth |
It’s an interesting one mainly due to the similarity in volume of injuries - in particular the hamstring injuries seem to be a bit of burden if I am remembering correctly.
I do have no doubt that the intensity of the PL has also played a significant part in- the tempo and intensity at this level is frighteningly high. |  | | |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 08:37 - Mar 4 with 1877 views | Bobbychase |
If we ask the question now, then we have to take into account the last two years where injuries have not been such a problem and in fact some players have come back quicker than expected.
Its almost as though we are in a tougher more physically demanding league now..... |  |
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 08:42 - Mar 4 with 1842 views | itfcjoe |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 00:10 - Mar 4 by stonojnr |
I cant remember the exact stat but it was something McKenna mentioned when we were in league 1 about fitness levels required in football and the amount of time the ball was in play for each of the leagues.
and unsurprisingly the Premier league is at the top of the list in terms of minutes the ball is in play, and the amount of distance you have to cover, and the speed too, even though you play less games, the physical efforts required are considerably higher and demand much higher levels of fitness than the lower leagues.
so alot of the injuries we are seeing are to do with the workload the players have to cope with in the Premiership. thats why you have a squad of players and you rotate them as best you can.
fortunately we dont have many games this month so can use the time to recover. |
McKenna said that when we were in League 1 we were the fittest team in the league, presumably with regards to the running stats we deem important for our style of play......but that these numbers, compared to the Championship would be the lowest in that league so we had a long way to go.
Just from the eye test the jump from L1 to the Champ didn't feel that great, but from the Champ to the PL feels incredible so dread to think what the equivalent numbers are at this level but probably just a case that we've tried to hit numbers, and needed to, that the players may not be capable of in year 1 here. |  |
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 08:43 - Mar 4 with 1818 views | DarkBrandon |
He did well to injure Enciso within a week or two of him arriving.
It is just luck … |  | | |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 09:01 - Mar 4 with 1743 views | bsw72 |
I made a comment last season about how we had avoided major injuries through 22-3 and 23-4 which had contributed to our ability to maintain a push for promotion. The exceptions were Hirst which we were able to partly cover with Kieffer Moore while Axel had not really established himself and the niggles that Burns and Broadhead had were 2-3 week issues.
This season we have been impacted hugely, but I then look across the division and all clubs seem to have had significant injuries. The challenge for us is that we do not have the strength in depth that the more established PL teams have.
Makes you wonder about the impact on the human body of the speed and physicality of the PL these days, combined with the fact that a lot more of the PL squads have U21 or Senior international commitments. |  | | |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 09:07 - Mar 4 with 1686 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Ah see we are back to posters digging for issues.
- This is the first season we've had an issue.
- Rolls has been with us since league one.
- The physical demands of the Premiership are significantly higher than the Championship.
- Our players are giving 100% and are playing through injuries to try and keep us in the league. |  |
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 09:08 - Mar 4 with 1682 views | positivity |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 08:43 - Mar 4 by DarkBrandon |
He did well to injure Enciso within a week or two of him arriving.
It is just luck … |
it's not all luck, he could've implemented a squad wide washing-up-wine-glasses course and reduced the injury weeks at a stroke. just wasn't thinking ahead! | |
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 09:10 - Mar 4 with 1668 views | Ryorry |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 01:07 - Mar 4 by itfctilidie |
The name that keeps popping up on these lists is 'Axel". great player but not robust enough for top flight football unfortunately. |
Slicing through a thumb whilst doing the washing up causing him to be out for months really is too freaky and unrelated to football to be counted, surely? | |
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 09:40 - Mar 4 with 1557 views | SamWhiteUK |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 00:50 - Mar 4 by Ryorry |
Hmm, interesting for sure. Whilst he was at Bristol City, they had an "unusually high number of hamstring injuries in particular" https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/head-bristol-citys-me
Could just be coincidence of course.
In mid-Dec we were second-top of the 'most injuries' list after Brighton. Dread to think where we are now - easily top of the list? And people moan about KM not *choosing* to field a settled side! |
Spurs weren't top?! Not even above us!? |  | | |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 09:42 - Mar 4 with 1547 views | JakeITFC |
Manager doesn’t know what he’s doing, physio is injuring all of our players - we’re getting pretty close to making 100 page megathread about Mark Ashton like the Bristol City forum aren’t we? |  | | |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 09:49 - Mar 4 with 1498 views | SomethingBlue |
We didn't praise him when the availability was good for two promotion years so I don't think he should be singled out for the issue now – because none of us really know, we're all amateurs. That's not to question that the injury situation has absolutely knackered us this season and needs a proper look – if nothing else, for next time we come up. [Post edited 4 Mar 9:50]
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 09:51 - Mar 4 with 1467 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 09:49 - Mar 4 by SomethingBlue |
We didn't praise him when the availability was good for two promotion years so I don't think he should be singled out for the issue now – because none of us really know, we're all amateurs. That's not to question that the injury situation has absolutely knackered us this season and needs a proper look – if nothing else, for next time we come up. [Post edited 4 Mar 9:50]
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See also “sack the set piece coach” after one bad game defending set pieces. |  |
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 10:04 - Mar 4 with 1370 views | Mullet |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 09:42 - Mar 4 by JakeITFC |
Manager doesn’t know what he’s doing, physio is injuring all of our players - we’re getting pretty close to making 100 page megathread about Mark Ashton like the Bristol City forum aren’t we? |
Get it started Jake. I reckon you’ll have 10 pages of bites by weeks end. |  |
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 10:14 - Mar 4 with 1301 views | bsw72 |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 09:49 - Mar 4 by SomethingBlue |
We didn't praise him when the availability was good for two promotion years so I don't think he should be singled out for the issue now – because none of us really know, we're all amateurs. That's not to question that the injury situation has absolutely knackered us this season and needs a proper look – if nothing else, for next time we come up. [Post edited 4 Mar 9:50]
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Backroom staff, fitness and upward trajectory. by bsw72 2 May 2024 10:00I am sure this has been discussed on here already, but I have been thinking about how critical the backroom staff supporting McK and the players have been. Over the whole season I do not feel we have been hugely impacted by what I would consider "niggly" injuries that take players out for 1-2 games, the little strains and pulls. We obviously lost players to bigger injuries such as Hirst and more recently Burns but on the whole the squad has been generally available.
That is not luck, it suggests the level of pre and post match preparation has been very good, as has training stress management - yet another critical component demonstrating how well the club is being run top to bottom.
I've been going to PR for 40+ years, and it has never felt as positive and bouyant as it does now, there is a feeling of stability and trust in the future planning that feels very different to previous upward performance spikes.
My only concern is that every time we have then gone and rebuilt a stand, the bubble has burst and everything has subsequently gone t!ts up . . . .
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 10:15 - Mar 4 with 1293 views | HighgateBlue |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 08:37 - Mar 4 by Bobbychase |
If we ask the question now, then we have to take into account the last two years where injuries have not been such a problem and in fact some players have come back quicker than expected.
Its almost as though we are in a tougher more physically demanding league now..... |
This is a perfectly good point. We're definitely in a tougher, quicker more unrelenting league now.
Bad luck will also fluctuate to some extent.
However, I wonder whether the greater use of subs last season might be at least one factor? I don't have any data, but it does seem that we are using fewer subs, and later, than last season. Team selection is also more choppy-changy, so it might be that playing longer periods of competitive football with bigger breaks in between might not be great for injury prevention.
Just a thought, not attempting a diagnosis, and certainly not laying the blame at KM's door. |  | | |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 10:39 - Mar 4 with 1178 views | Ryorry |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 09:40 - Mar 4 by SamWhiteUK |
Spurs weren't top?! Not even above us!? |
It was Sky's list. | |
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| Andy Rolls Injury list on 10:43 - Mar 4 with 1159 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
| Andy Rolls Injury list on 01:07 - Mar 4 by itfctilidie |
The name that keeps popping up on these lists is 'Axel". great player but not robust enough for top flight football unfortunately. |
We signed him knowing he had injury issues, we took a punt, it happens. | |
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