| So is Tesla destined for the bin? 18:13 - Mar 18 with 8847 views | bluelagos |
Shares and cars...
Would you go near either? [Post edited 18 Mar 18:17]
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| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 20:56 - Mar 18 with 2269 views | Lord_Lucan |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 20:36 - Mar 18 by BloomBlue |
All non Chinese car manufacturers will be bankrupt in 10 years or owned by a Chinese company.
Nobody can compete with the low labour cost in China. It's time people accepted that. Personally I don't have an issue if the Chinese want to give us cheap cars because they can basically employ slave labour without any employment protects.
Germany especially needs to wake up and if they want their car industry to survive they need to start lowering their employment protect rules.
You only have to look at the loses the VW group made last year, and Audi also just announced 7000 job losses.
Tesla will go the same way. Although one thing Tesla has which is still a large income for them is the batteries used in homes attached to solar panels |
Until very recently China was a load of B roads at best with a load of weird looking cars and vans derived from motorbikes.
Now it is motorway central and no one has a cr4p car.
I'm not a car fan but I have to say that some of the Chinese vehicles are unbelievable. They don't even have rear mirrors, you are watching a blooming live video.
I was last there in January and saw this EV in a shopping mall, I was in a rush but I think it was a Buik / China hybrid.
Yours to drive away for US $28,000
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| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 21:00 - Mar 18 with 2248 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Boycotting Tesla because you don’t like Musk’s politics, only to buy a Chinese car is pretty funny tbh.
I’m gonna boycott Russian Vodka and buy it from Israel instead… |  | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 21:03 - Mar 18 with 2238 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 20:56 - Mar 18 by Lord_Lucan |
Until very recently China was a load of B roads at best with a load of weird looking cars and vans derived from motorbikes.
Now it is motorway central and no one has a cr4p car.
I'm not a car fan but I have to say that some of the Chinese vehicles are unbelievable. They don't even have rear mirrors, you are watching a blooming live video.
I was last there in January and saw this EV in a shopping mall, I was in a rush but I think it was a Buik / China hybrid.
Yours to drive away for US $28,000
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...and you're not the only one who can watch that live video! |  |
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| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 21:15 - Mar 18 with 2218 views | mellowblue |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 19:47 - Mar 18 by DJR |
And if true, the Chinese certainly seem to be on to something.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/18/byd-ev-fast-charging-system-p
Chinese EV maker BYD says fast-charging system could be as quick as filling up a tank
BYD unveils platform with charging power of 1,000 kW, which would be twice as fast as Tesla’s supercharging [Post edited 18 Mar 19:48]
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somehow I don't think a home electrical consumer unit could remotely cope with the pwer requirement. | | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 06:48 - Mar 19 with 2037 views | mikeybloo88 |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 21:00 - Mar 18 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Boycotting Tesla because you don’t like Musk’s politics, only to buy a Chinese car is pretty funny tbh.
I’m gonna boycott Russian Vodka and buy it from Israel instead… |
Yeah...refusing to buy American products or Teslas because you don’t like Trump and Musk, but then saying you have no qualms about buying from China is virtue signalling hypocrisy of the highest order. How have China suddenly become the cuddly, good guys in some people’s minds? |  | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 07:05 - Mar 19 with 2006 views | Churchman |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 06:48 - Mar 19 by mikeybloo88 |
Yeah...refusing to buy American products or Teslas because you don’t like Trump and Musk, but then saying you have no qualms about buying from China is virtue signalling hypocrisy of the highest order. How have China suddenly become the cuddly, good guys in some people’s minds? |
Because unlike the US, China are not betrayers. They’re quite open and consistent as to what they are. Just your common old despotic dictatorship that is out producing the world - and their leader smiles a lot.
On a serious note, I’d rather not and if I have to buy one and there’s a European or Japanese alternative I’ll buy that. I certainly won’t buy anything that benefitted Musk if I can help it. |  | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 07:13 - Mar 19 with 2010 views | BrandonsBlues |
Tesla is no longer about the car and has not been for a while. Tesla is about the battery, not just in cars but in heating systems etc, that is the future, however Tesla may even be losing that competition to the Chinese. | | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 07:24 - Mar 19 with 1971 views | Nutkins_Return |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 18:47 - Mar 18 by bluelagos |
Polestar look the bollox - if you have a spare 50k
*I don't. |
I quite like them inside and out and well put together but on all other metrics they are inferior. Range, charging, doesn't drive great, slower etc. Not bad by any means but still. Reviews are always a bit mixed as well.
BYD is a bit closer but not there and they have terrible terrible names. 'Seal' or 'Sealion'. The upside is not Musk. But then the Chinese State do some pretty dreadful stuff as well. | |
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| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 08:30 - Mar 19 with 1878 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 06:48 - Mar 19 by mikeybloo88 |
Yeah...refusing to buy American products or Teslas because you don’t like Trump and Musk, but then saying you have no qualms about buying from China is virtue signalling hypocrisy of the highest order. How have China suddenly become the cuddly, good guys in some people’s minds? |
I do question some people’s moral equivalence, but in fairness perhaps some people are ignorant to how bad the Chinese state actually is. There are other states which would get outrage on here with these kind of crimes:-
“the Chinese government has dismissed all calls to end its severe repression in Xinjiang, which includes mass arbitrary detention, torture, enforced disappearances, mass surveillance, cultural and religious persecution, separation of families, forced labor, sexual violence, and violations of reproductive rights.
Hundreds of thousands of Uyghurs and other Turkic Muslims remain wrongfully imprisoned. Those abroad have little to no contact with their families in China. Many live with the uncertainty about whether their loved ones – sometimes dozens of their family and relatives – remain detained, imprisoned, or forcibly disappeared.”
https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/08/27/china-un-needs-address-crimes-against-humani
Musk has always been a vile person even pre-Trump, I personally wouldn’t have bought a Tesla for that’s reason. But as far as I can see he’s got some way to go before he’s matched China’s crimes against humanity. There’s a direct connection too since the Chinese state has stakes in the holding companies of many of it’s domestic car producers. It seems mad to me to boycott Tesla, only to support something much worse… | | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 10:48 - Mar 19 with 1798 views | Jasper |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 07:13 - Mar 19 by BrandonsBlues |
Tesla is no longer about the car and has not been for a while. Tesla is about the battery, not just in cars but in heating systems etc, that is the future, however Tesla may even be losing that competition to the Chinese. |
Tesla uses batteries from CATL and BYD, so they are already buying/using Chinese tech. | | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 10:51 - Mar 19 with 1782 views | nrb1985 |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 18:29 - Mar 18 by Churchman |
Interesting. What is the red line GS? I’m curious now. |
I would imagine it's the 200 day moving average. Usually a bearish signal if the shorter moving average (i.e. 50 day), crosses below the 200 and visa versa.
That's of course if you believe in technical analysis! | | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 10:54 - Mar 19 with 1759 views | nrb1985 |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 20:36 - Mar 18 by BloomBlue |
All non Chinese car manufacturers will be bankrupt in 10 years or owned by a Chinese company.
Nobody can compete with the low labour cost in China. It's time people accepted that. Personally I don't have an issue if the Chinese want to give us cheap cars because they can basically employ slave labour without any employment protects.
Germany especially needs to wake up and if they want their car industry to survive they need to start lowering their employment protect rules.
You only have to look at the loses the VW group made last year, and Audi also just announced 7000 job losses.
Tesla will go the same way. Although one thing Tesla has which is still a large income for them is the batteries used in homes attached to solar panels |
Or they'll just switch to making something else, like Arms, given the seachange in Europe.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-11/volkswagen-eyes-defense-role- | | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 10:57 - Mar 19 with 1747 views | ITFCson |
Many people already made their fortune buying tesla shares around covid times and before | | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 11:13 - Mar 19 with 1706 views | Churchman |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 10:51 - Mar 19 by nrb1985 |
I would imagine it's the 200 day moving average. Usually a bearish signal if the shorter moving average (i.e. 50 day), crosses below the 200 and visa versa.
That's of course if you believe in technical analysis! |
Thanks for that. Interesting. I’m so out of touch.
I do believe in technical analysis - errr sometimes!!? | | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 12:44 - Mar 19 with 1628 views | NeedhamChris |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 18:35 - Mar 18 by bluelagos |
Not sure Elon's got the styling right tbh
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We shouldn't be encouraging vandalism though. | |
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| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 17:52 - Mar 19 with 1478 views | djgooder |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 19:55 - Mar 18 by dickie |
I wonder if now is a good time to buy some shares! |
Probably the ultimate ‘buy the dip’ opportunity. People have short memories and things will return to normal soon enough. |  | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 19:59 - Mar 19 with 1385 views | Swansea_Blue |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 20:56 - Mar 18 by Lord_Lucan |
Until very recently China was a load of B roads at best with a load of weird looking cars and vans derived from motorbikes.
Now it is motorway central and no one has a cr4p car.
I'm not a car fan but I have to say that some of the Chinese vehicles are unbelievable. They don't even have rear mirrors, you are watching a blooming live video.
I was last there in January and saw this EV in a shopping mall, I was in a rush but I think it was a Buik / China hybrid.
Yours to drive away for US $28,000
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Do you know how the MG’s are holding up, because the Chinese made vans are shoite and start falling apart after a couple of years. |  |
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| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 20:06 - Mar 19 with 1362 views | Lord_Lucan |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 19:59 - Mar 19 by Swansea_Blue |
Do you know how the MG’s are holding up, because the Chinese made vans are shoite and start falling apart after a couple of years. |
My knowledge of motor vehicles in the UK is poor and my knowledge of Chinese vehicles is awful in comparison.
All I know is they look nice and feel comfy. | |
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| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 20:30 - Mar 19 with 1347 views | bournemouthblue |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 19:47 - Mar 18 by DJR |
And if true, the Chinese certainly seem to be on to something.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/18/byd-ev-fast-charging-system-p
Chinese EV maker BYD says fast-charging system could be as quick as filling up a tank
BYD unveils platform with charging power of 1,000 kW, which would be twice as fast as Tesla’s supercharging [Post edited 18 Mar 19:48]
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Another example where the Chinese are coming in a big way |  |
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| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 13:10 - Mar 20 with 1117 views | JammyDodgerrr |
I would've bought a Tesla but not anymore. I'll be getting a Kia EV6 instead - absolutely mint. |  |
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| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 13:24 - Mar 20 with 1105 views | Bluecoin |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 17:52 - Mar 19 by djgooder |
Probably the ultimate ‘buy the dip’ opportunity. People have short memories and things will return to normal soon enough. |
Exactly this.
Indicators are showing that's it potentially a great time to buy TSLA. They're a great company, and all this will blow over. | | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 13:45 - Mar 20 with 1062 views | DanTheMan |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 13:24 - Mar 20 by Bluecoin |
Exactly this.
Indicators are showing that's it potentially a great time to buy TSLA. They're a great company, and all this will blow over. |
I can see very little from their fundamentals that suggests they are worth more than almost every other car manufacturer combined.
Their valuation seems to be based on their future robo-taxis but given they've been promising FSD for years and it's still nowhere near ready, I don't see that being at all likely.
That's combined with Musk annoying Tesla's entire target market.
Going further, other car manufacturers have caught up with decent vehicles and good prices.
Other than hype and maybe a risky future bet they pull off something spectacular I fail to see what is so great about them. |  |
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| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 13:56 - Mar 20 with 1013 views | Bluecoin |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 13:45 - Mar 20 by DanTheMan |
I can see very little from their fundamentals that suggests they are worth more than almost every other car manufacturer combined.
Their valuation seems to be based on their future robo-taxis but given they've been promising FSD for years and it's still nowhere near ready, I don't see that being at all likely.
That's combined with Musk annoying Tesla's entire target market.
Going further, other car manufacturers have caught up with decent vehicles and good prices.
Other than hype and maybe a risky future bet they pull off something spectacular I fail to see what is so great about them. |
It's not only the cars. The robots are coming.
TSLA target price is 340 - 500 atm, according to analysts. It's at 230 today. | | | |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 13:59 - Mar 20 with 987 views | J2BLUE |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 13:56 - Mar 20 by Bluecoin |
It's not only the cars. The robots are coming.
TSLA target price is 340 - 500 atm, according to analysts. It's at 230 today. |
Batteries as well. In the future if we all have solar panels they could be key. |  |
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| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 14:05 - Mar 20 with 944 views | DanTheMan |
| So is Tesla destined for the bin? on 13:56 - Mar 20 by Bluecoin |
It's not only the cars. The robots are coming.
TSLA target price is 340 - 500 atm, according to analysts. It's at 230 today. |
Right, but that's future stuff. Robots are coming, FSD is coming, Robo taxis are coming etc. etc.
Lots and lots of promises but little delivered in a while. | |
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