| Delap reported 40m clause... 08:16 - Apr 6 with 7416 views | ITFCBlues |
If that is the case, that'd be hugely disappointing. We'd have sold ourselves at least 10m short.
Hopefully that's not the case with MA comments suggesting we're well protected although I'd say that a sale of 40m hasn't protected us well at all! |  |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:25 - Apr 6 with 4562 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
It is what it is.
Southampton were in for him too.
It was likely we had to agree it or lose him. |  |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:26 - Apr 6 with 4558 views | Mark |
Hopefully the numbers are media speculation. At £40m Man City could well buy Delap and then sell him on straight away for £50m+ |  | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:28 - Apr 6 with 4541 views | Clutch |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:26 - Apr 6 by Mark |
Hopefully the numbers are media speculation. At £40m Man City could well buy Delap and then sell him on straight away for £50m+ |
Don't think they'd bother for 10m to be honest, it sounds a lot, but after agent fees, signing on fees etc, might not be worth it. |  | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:29 - Apr 6 with 4541 views | bsw72 |
Easy in hindsight but in the context of signing a 21yo with hardly any PL experience it made sense at the time. Note that £40m triggers release clause but doesn’t necessarily stop a bidding war, and very much protects the club vs the initial investment.
It’s very likely that the key to signing Delap was having a more realistic release clause for him to give him the protection that he remained in the price range of clubs should Town get relegated. |  | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:33 - Apr 6 with 4480 views | Wickets |
Not sure but I don't think that would mean we will lose him for 40 ? If there are multiple clubs chasing him ? |  | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:33 - Apr 6 with 4475 views | CopfordBlue |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:26 - Apr 6 by Mark |
Hopefully the numbers are media speculation. At £40m Man City could well buy Delap and then sell him on straight away for £50m+ |
You’re assuming he and his agent would want to be part of that. There’s no way the contract would be able to stipulate that he has to re-sign for them if they demand it. If the clause is £40m and there are multiple bids, some of which exceed it, he’ll choose the offer that suits him best. It may be that there’s a clause that says we have to pay a percentage of any profit to City if he signs elsewhere for more than X amount but unless Delap is a willing party they can’t just buy him to sell him. |  |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:39 - Apr 6 with 4404 views | ITFCBlues |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:25 - Apr 6 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It is what it is.
Southampton were in for him too.
It was likely we had to agree it or lose him. |
Then that'd have been poor business really. Paying 20m for a player with no PL experience and then having a sell on already agreed at 40m.
I hope it's just matching rights for City. | |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:43 - Apr 6 with 4352 views | tonybied |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:33 - Apr 6 by CopfordBlue |
You’re assuming he and his agent would want to be part of that. There’s no way the contract would be able to stipulate that he has to re-sign for them if they demand it. If the clause is £40m and there are multiple bids, some of which exceed it, he’ll choose the offer that suits him best. It may be that there’s a clause that says we have to pay a percentage of any profit to City if he signs elsewhere for more than X amount but unless Delap is a willing party they can’t just buy him to sell him. |
His contract could very well stipulate that he has to sign for them. McKenna pretty much confirmed that was the case with Philogene in the summer. He wanted to come to us but as part of the move to Hull, Philogene clearly had some sort of pre-aggreed contract with Villa should they choose to activate their matching clause. City could well have stated that the only way they would listen to offers for Delap was that this clause was agreed by all parties. |  | | |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:44 - Apr 6 with 4340 views | Mark |
Do I recall mention of a sell-on clause too? Villa reportedly bought Philogene back from Hull for £13m when we bid £18m for that reason. Why we then reportedly paid £22m a few months later I am not sure, hopefully the fee was really lower! | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:04 - Apr 6 with 4171 views | Blue_Heath |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:44 - Apr 6 by Mark |
Do I recall mention of a sell-on clause too? Villa reportedly bought Philogene back from Hull for £13m when we bid £18m for that reason. Why we then reportedly paid £22m a few months later I am not sure, hopefully the fee was really lower! |
I can only assume Hutch will be off and Philogene will take his place otherwise I can see no logical reason to sign him unless we plan on being the Championship Chelsea and stockpile players to stop rivals having them? | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:40 - Apr 6 with 4023 views | Jack27 |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:29 - Apr 6 by bsw72 |
Easy in hindsight but in the context of signing a 21yo with hardly any PL experience it made sense at the time. Note that £40m triggers release clause but doesn’t necessarily stop a bidding war, and very much protects the club vs the initial investment.
It’s very likely that the key to signing Delap was having a more realistic release clause for him to give him the protection that he remained in the price range of clubs should Town get relegated. |
The bidding war bit is interesting. If it is a simple £40m release clause on relegation, then we have to accept £40m. It wouldn’t mean that because another club bids £45m that the £40m suddenly becomes redundant. Or am I missing something? |  | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:41 - Apr 6 with 3989 views | Radlett_blue |
it takes 2 parties to agree a deal. Presumably, without this buy-back clause, we wouldn't have got Delap at all as long as someone else was willing to agree to it. |  |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:45 - Apr 6 with 3936 views | Axeldalai_lama |
Oh good, another thread on the Delap clauses that literally no public person knows anything about and has been done to death on here numerous times!!
It is what it is. |  | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:47 - Apr 6 with 3907 views | bsw72 |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:40 - Apr 6 by Jack27 |
The bidding war bit is interesting. If it is a simple £40m release clause on relegation, then we have to accept £40m. It wouldn’t mean that because another club bids £45m that the £40m suddenly becomes redundant. Or am I missing something? |
A release clause doesn’t stop a bidding war — it just guarantees the club can’t block the move once it’s met. It certainly favours the player, but I can live in hope. | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:51 - Apr 6 with 3864 views | Herbivore |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:40 - Apr 6 by Jack27 |
The bidding war bit is interesting. If it is a simple £40m release clause on relegation, then we have to accept £40m. It wouldn’t mean that because another club bids £45m that the £40m suddenly becomes redundant. Or am I missing something? |
Yeah, if it's a relegation release clause set at £40m it'll mean we have to accept offers that meet that. There won't be a bidding war, nobody is going to pay £50m for a player they only need to pay £40m for. The only bidding war will be over Delap's terms. That said, it's all speculation at the moment anyway, nobody other than a handful of people directly involved know exactly what's in his contract. |  |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:53 - Apr 6 with 3834 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:47 - Apr 6 by bsw72 |
A release clause doesn’t stop a bidding war — it just guarantees the club can’t block the move once it’s met. It certainly favours the player, but I can live in hope. |
Although obviously that bidding war is going to pause at £40m isn’t it, if the clause is as has been reported.
At £40m I suspect he’ll have his choice of about 10 clubs I imagine. Watching him at Bournemouth the other night, £40m spread over a 5 year contract for somebody is a very good deal. | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:55 - Apr 6 with 3803 views | OldFart71 |
A couple of years ago I bought shares in Carnival the cruise company that owns Carnival, Holland America, Princess, Cunard amongst others. I bought the shares at a cost of £700, when they reached over £13 I sold them. I also had a cruise that gave me £150 onboard credit due to holding these shares. So on a £700 outlay I made £1450. That's roughly what Town would make if the Delap clause is indeed £40 million or 100% profit. Who wouldn't want a 100% profit ? Yes we can look at other players and what they will/may be sold for and it does to some extent annoy fans that we may have received much more. But what we must remember is it was a negotiated deal and maybe City wouldn't have sold Delap without that deal and therefore we wouldn't have seen him for a season and wouldn't have made £20 million. If you sell anything for a profit you have to be prepared to allow the buyer a chance to make out of it as well. In this case it's sort of a reverse situation in that the seller makes extra money out of the deal. But in truth a lot of this is speculation. | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:02 - Apr 6 with 3745 views | bournemouthblue |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:28 - Apr 6 by Clutch |
Don't think they'd bother for 10m to be honest, it sounds a lot, but after agent fees, signing on fees etc, might not be worth it. |
They may also have a sell on where a larger sale just means it's a better deal for them to let us sell him |  |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:03 - Apr 6 with 3745 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
YALDTT
(Yet Another Liam Delap Transfer Thread) 
Nobody knows the precise details of the contract. It is likely that there is a buyback clause - this was reported on by credible sources at the time he signed, but no buyback value was mentioned. It's only recent speculation that has put a value on it, but with minimal foundation and often from less credible sources.
The release clause is new speculation - started by that bastion of credible football news earlier this week - The Daily Mail, and picked up as fact by other outlets. It would not surprise me if there is a release clause, but the value will be confidential. | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:04 - Apr 6 with 3730 views | bournemouthblue |
Where's the reports of a release clause to all clubs, I thought it was essentially a buy back clause for Man City? | |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:04 - Apr 6 with 3722 views | bsw72 |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:53 - Apr 6 by PrideOfTheEast |
Although obviously that bidding war is going to pause at £40m isn’t it, if the clause is as has been reported.
At £40m I suspect he’ll have his choice of about 10 clubs I imagine. Watching him at Bournemouth the other night, £40m spread over a 5 year contract for somebody is a very good deal. |
Yeah. Didn’t think that through. On 3rd cup of tea now, what a ridiculous statement from me  | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:05 - Apr 6 with 3715 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:04 - Apr 6 by Blue_Heath |
I can only assume Hutch will be off and Philogene will take his place otherwise I can see no logical reason to sign him unless we plan on being the Championship Chelsea and stockpile players to stop rivals having them? |
Squad depth plus profitable player trading if a good enough offer comes in. Welcome to modern football | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:09 - Apr 6 with 3680 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 09:53 - Apr 6 by PrideOfTheEast |
Although obviously that bidding war is going to pause at £40m isn’t it, if the clause is as has been reported.
At £40m I suspect he’ll have his choice of about 10 clubs I imagine. Watching him at Bournemouth the other night, £40m spread over a 5 year contract for somebody is a very good deal. |
Aside from the 40m being pure speculation from a less than credible source, why would bidding stop at the release clause figure? If many clubs are seriously interested, it can turn into an auction. A club that really wants a player isn't going to lose out on them by refusing to offer more, if they place a higher value on them. [Post edited 6 Apr 10:10]
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:12 - Apr 6 with 3636 views | NeedhamChris |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:09 - Apr 6 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Aside from the 40m being pure speculation from a less than credible source, why would bidding stop at the release clause figure? If many clubs are seriously interested, it can turn into an auction. A club that really wants a player isn't going to lose out on them by refusing to offer more, if they place a higher value on them. [Post edited 6 Apr 10:10]
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If it's a £40m release clause then it doesn't matter if a club offers £40m or £100m, we'd still have to accept it. So there's literally no point in a club offering more.
Any money that they have spare will be used to make Delaps package more appealing, not ours. | |
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| It was in the press last week…. on 10:13 - Apr 6 with 3637 views | Bloots |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:04 - Apr 6 by bournemouthblue |
Where's the reports of a release clause to all clubs, I thought it was essentially a buy back clause for Man City? |
….straight £40 release clause on relegation.
Cant remember what paper.
Don’t think it was in The Guardian though, so wasn’t picked up on here. |  |
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