| The club will surely have known 19:44 - Apr 9 with 7483 views | muccletonjoe |
The chances of surviving this season were stacked against us. If they then went ahead and negotiated this contract for Delap, they have left us in a very precarious state for next season in the championship.
All we can do is watch this space.
But the potential is there already for the club to be faced with building at least 50% of the current squad. Never mind if we have the money or not. We are looking at bedding in alot of new faces yet again. |  | | |  |
| Apparently we've got an option.... on 07:59 - Apr 10 with 1377 views | TractorWood |
| Apparently we've got an option.... on 22:10 - Apr 9 by Bloots |
....to sign Godfrey for £35m.
Ashton's considering it. |
Well refuse it and then pay £50m in January when we already have 3 players in his position. |  |
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| The club will surely have known on 08:05 - Apr 10 with 1343 views | tcblue |
Is early April the record for how early we s the bed about summer transfer business? |  | | |
| The club will surely have known on 08:07 - Apr 10 with 1338 views | keanekipper |
| The club will surely have known on 08:05 - Apr 10 by tcblue |
Is early April the record for how early we s the bed about summer transfer business? |
It going to be a depressing couple of months if this is the start of it, bring on pre season where i have every faith we have a plan and are ready to act on it, just got to be a damage limitation for a couple of months. [Post edited 10 Apr 8:13]
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| The club will surely have known on 08:18 - Apr 10 with 1319 views | BloomBlue |
Man City had done a deal already with Southampton, they probably said if you want to hijack the deal it has be at least the same as that.
Without Delap's goals we would have less points than Southampton. Town wanted to give the PL a go, and Delap wasn't a proven PL player, it was just as feasible he could have been a flop. |  | | |
| The club will surely have known on 08:35 - Apr 10 with 1280 views | Herbivore |
| The club will surely have known on 07:02 - Apr 10 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I don’t think it’s far out
As a minimum it seems we’re going to need to replace at least one GK, Tuanzebe, Burgess, at least 2 CM’s, Enciso and Delap. Add to that possible departures of Davis and Omari (O’Shea could garner interest aswell), plus natural attrition (would it be a huge shock if Taylor was sold? Burns or even Chaplin?) and it could easily be 10+ coming in again |
I think it's a stretch to say we'll be rebuilding at least half of the existing squad. There's a few players you've listed as possible departures that are highly speculative, there's no reason to think the likes of Taylor, Chaplin, or Burns will be moved on as all are very handy Championship squad options. We've got three loanees who will go, Delap, a couple of out of contract players, then possibly Hutch and Davis. O'Shea maybe an outside chance. With players returning from injuries and loans, not all of those will be replaced by new signings.
I'd say the following are very likely to be here next season:
Palmer
Slicker
Clarke
Johnson
Woolf
Greaves
Townsend
Morsy
Taylor
Humphreys
Ogbene
Burns
Chaplin
Szmodics
Philogene
Clarke
Broadhead
Hirst
I also expect Walton to stay, he's a reliable back up keeper in the Championship and signed a new deal not long ago. He may want to play regularly but I think he'd be prepared to give us one more season in a promotion chasing side. Al Hamidi may well come back as a third striker option too. I'm not convinced O'Shea will have loads of suitors at the price we'd want. Muric we'll look to move on I imagine.
So that's 18 players that look likely to stay even if we see all of Walton, Muric, Hutch, O'Shea, Davis, Delap, Al Hamidi, the loanees and out of contract players move on. I'd say that's erring on the high side of losses to the squad as I'd not be surprised to see a couple of those at least still be here.
In that scenario, we would need a GK, 2 CBs, a LB, 2 CMs, possibly a 10, and 2 CFs. We'd be looking to add maybe 9 to the existing 18. If others don't leave, the churn is less, thought that could be balanced by a surprise departure or two. But however you slice it, it's going to be around a third of the squad, not more than half as the OP suggested. |  |
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| The club will surely have known on 08:44 - Apr 10 with 1257 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The club will surely have known on 21:03 - Apr 9 by PrideOfTheEast |
The report is accurate.
It would have been a take it or leave it situation with the players agents when we negotiated the contract presumably.
Disappointing as he’s worth much more than that in my view but we move on and need to replace him regardless of how much we get him. |
A few days ago you were agreeing with those saying it was £40m so where this sudden inside knowledge has come from is beyond me. |  |
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| The club will surely have known on 08:59 - Apr 10 with 1226 views | muccletonjoe |
| The club will surely have known on 08:35 - Apr 10 by Herbivore |
I think it's a stretch to say we'll be rebuilding at least half of the existing squad. There's a few players you've listed as possible departures that are highly speculative, there's no reason to think the likes of Taylor, Chaplin, or Burns will be moved on as all are very handy Championship squad options. We've got three loanees who will go, Delap, a couple of out of contract players, then possibly Hutch and Davis. O'Shea maybe an outside chance. With players returning from injuries and loans, not all of those will be replaced by new signings.
I'd say the following are very likely to be here next season:
Palmer
Slicker
Clarke
Johnson
Woolf
Greaves
Townsend
Morsy
Taylor
Humphreys
Ogbene
Burns
Chaplin
Szmodics
Philogene
Clarke
Broadhead
Hirst
I also expect Walton to stay, he's a reliable back up keeper in the Championship and signed a new deal not long ago. He may want to play regularly but I think he'd be prepared to give us one more season in a promotion chasing side. Al Hamidi may well come back as a third striker option too. I'm not convinced O'Shea will have loads of suitors at the price we'd want. Muric we'll look to move on I imagine.
So that's 18 players that look likely to stay even if we see all of Walton, Muric, Hutch, O'Shea, Davis, Delap, Al Hamidi, the loanees and out of contract players move on. I'd say that's erring on the high side of losses to the squad as I'd not be surprised to see a couple of those at least still be here.
In that scenario, we would need a GK, 2 CBs, a LB, 2 CMs, possibly a 10, and 2 CFs. We'd be looking to add maybe 9 to the existing 18. If others don't leave, the churn is less, thought that could be balanced by a surprise departure or two. But however you slice it, it's going to be around a third of the squad, not more than half as the OP suggested. |
I did say potentially. I think we may find morsy and taylor moving on at the end of the season , and Burns and Chaplin are by far certs to start with us next season.
Very much depends on if the manager is still here. If he isn't that potential for replacing half the squad will more than likely be realised. | | | |
| The club will surely have known on 09:01 - Apr 10 with 1213 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The club will surely have known on 08:59 - Apr 10 by muccletonjoe |
I did say potentially. I think we may find morsy and taylor moving on at the end of the season , and Burns and Chaplin are by far certs to start with us next season.
Very much depends on if the manager is still here. If he isn't that potential for replacing half the squad will more than likely be realised. |
"Burns and Chaplin are by far certs to start with us next season."
Based on? | |
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| The club will surely have known on 09:06 - Apr 10 with 1181 views | Herbivore |
| The club will surely have known on 08:59 - Apr 10 by muccletonjoe |
I did say potentially. I think we may find morsy and taylor moving on at the end of the season , and Burns and Chaplin are by far certs to start with us next season.
Very much depends on if the manager is still here. If he isn't that potential for replacing half the squad will more than likely be realised. |
For half of the squad to be replaced we'd be having to lose another 4 or 5 players at least on top of the possible/probable departures and I don't see anything to suggest that's likely. Why all the doom mongering about stuff that's not likely to happen? I genuinely don't get it. | |
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| The club will surely have known on 09:07 - Apr 10 with 1182 views | baxterbasics |
If it's true, then Delap (via his agent) must have insisted on it and club had to take or leave it. So it's not necessarily fair to criticise. |  |
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| The club will surely have known on 09:12 - Apr 10 with 1159 views | Herbivore |
| The club will surely have known on 09:07 - Apr 10 by baxterbasics |
If it's true, then Delap (via his agent) must have insisted on it and club had to take or leave it. So it's not necessarily fair to criticise. |
Exactly. The player (and his agent) are going to protect themselves in the event that he has a good season and we don't stay up. I doubt even Delap thought he'd have such an impact this season and if we'd been told at the outset there was a £30m relegation release clause, most people would have shrugged as they couldn't understand why we'd spent £15m on him. It's frustrating of course because he's had a blinder of a season and we can't max out the fee for him, but these things happen in football. | |
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| The club will surely have known on 09:18 - Apr 10 with 1144 views | Metal_Hacker |
You know what , whilst this whole Delap story , guesswork rolls on and leaves a knot in my stomach thinking about it , I can’t really think of many things that this club under its current guise have got wrong so far so I’m sure we’ll come out the other end in a positive manner.
Roll on next season when this stuff is all forgotten about , we’re winning again , scoring lots of goals and we have a new striker we’re worshipping whilst sat in the Top 2 this time next year
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| The club will surely have known on 09:27 - Apr 10 with 1110 views | muccletonjoe |
| The club will surely have known on 09:01 - Apr 10 by Cheltenham_Blue |
"Burns and Chaplin are by far certs to start with us next season."
Based on? |
Based on they have been injured for the most part of this season ? | | | |
| The club will surely have known on 09:32 - Apr 10 with 1084 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The club will surely have known on 09:27 - Apr 10 by muccletonjoe |
Based on they have been injured for the most part of this season ? |
Chappers is fit again. Burns is progressing well. | |
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| The club will surely have known on 09:43 - Apr 10 with 1056 views | Herbivore |
| The club will surely have known on 09:27 - Apr 10 by muccletonjoe |
Based on they have been injured for the most part of this season ? |
I'm struggling with the logic here. If a player who previously hasn't been injured that much sustains a couple of injuries that keep them out for a while, that means they aren't going to play for us next season? Is that your argument? Because it's sh!te if it is. | |
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| The club will surely have known on 10:18 - Apr 10 with 1021 views | darkhorse28 |
| The club will surely have known on 20:24 - Apr 9 by chicoazul |
If we hadn’t signed Delap we would probably have swapped places with Southampton and for me taking a bath on his fee is worth that. Plus when he plays for England we can say we made him. |
Why couldn’t we sign him with a £40-50 million release. According to Ashton it was Ed that sealed the deal, so asking a player so young to believe in himself hardly seems a deal breaker.
Or WE got it wrong, didn’t protect the club, and gave all the leverage to Delap and his agents.
They’ll make tens of millions, and we’ll suffer massively giving away our only sellable asset, at £20-30 million below market value. We will have PSR consequences for the rest of the squad, more sales etc
I can’t imagine Delap would have walked away from thinking he could be worth £40 or £50 million in a year, especially when players have all the power to leave clubs anyway. In the context of KM’s champions league contract, and £150 million spent on EFL players, it doesn’t seem hard to believe we just messed up another important decision. | | | |
| The club will surely have known on 10:24 - Apr 10 with 1013 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| The club will surely have known on 10:18 - Apr 10 by darkhorse28 |
Why couldn’t we sign him with a £40-50 million release. According to Ashton it was Ed that sealed the deal, so asking a player so young to believe in himself hardly seems a deal breaker.
Or WE got it wrong, didn’t protect the club, and gave all the leverage to Delap and his agents.
They’ll make tens of millions, and we’ll suffer massively giving away our only sellable asset, at £20-30 million below market value. We will have PSR consequences for the rest of the squad, more sales etc
I can’t imagine Delap would have walked away from thinking he could be worth £40 or £50 million in a year, especially when players have all the power to leave clubs anyway. In the context of KM’s champions league contract, and £150 million spent on EFL players, it doesn’t seem hard to believe we just messed up another important decision. |
There is ZERO evidence that we will have PSR issues next season - quite the contrary, as has been outlined in other posts.
You need to show how you come to such a conclusion if you don't want it to be seen as nonsense. | | | |
| It's not an option you fool on 10:28 - Apr 10 with 993 views | Dyland |
| Apparently we've got an option.... on 22:10 - Apr 9 by Bloots |
....to sign Godfrey for £35m.
Ashton's considering it. |
It's an obligation to buy Godfrey for £35m.
But only if we're relegated. |  |
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| The club will surely have known on 11:40 - Apr 10 with 923 views | muccletonjoe |
| The club will surely have known on 09:43 - Apr 10 by Herbivore |
I'm struggling with the logic here. If a player who previously hasn't been injured that much sustains a couple of injuries that keep them out for a while, that means they aren't going to play for us next season? Is that your argument? Because it's sh!te if it is. |
Come on , you know as well as I do , that younger players have been bought in since they have been injured. So it depends whether they are going to fight for their place or go elsewhere to get first team football. | | | |
| The club will surely have known on 11:49 - Apr 10 with 914 views | Herbivore |
| The club will surely have known on 11:40 - Apr 10 by muccletonjoe |
Come on , you know as well as I do , that younger players have been bought in since they have been injured. So it depends whether they are going to fight for their place or go elsewhere to get first team football. |
We haven't bought anyone in Burns' role since he got injured, that's one of the reasons we've been struggling as Ogbene is our only other like for like option and he's also injured. Chaplin, we've signed Enciso on loan and he won't be here next season. It also won't just be down to the players whether they stay or go. There's nothing to suggest we're going to start selling off players like Burns or Chaplin. | |
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| The club will surely have known on 11:56 - Apr 10 with 893 views | Freddies_Ears |
| The club will surely have known on 07:54 - Apr 10 by Blue_Heath |
Yes, but equally would they have thought Delap would get into double figures this year and establish himself as a proven striker. It could have gone either way he may be worth 50m or 5m. Nothing from last season suggested he would have a season like he has.
The bigger question is can we find the next Delap? |
We will have the pick of the EFL, plus any aspiring but not-yet-there Pres striker, provided KMac stays.
Disappointing as the Delap deal appears, we could have had him on loan, with zero benefit at the end of the season. | | | |
| The club will surely have known on 12:33 - Apr 10 with 877 views | Churchman |
| The club will surely have known on 23:01 - Apr 9 by NeedhamChris |
If you're looking for more confirmation than a Guardian report from an itk journo and no argument from Phil either, then a football forum might not be the place for you over the summer. |
Yes, because unless they read the deal as it was being signed it’s speculation. Have you ever been involved with anything that the press have written about? If you have, you will know that 85% of what is written is rubbish or partially right.
They have to fill column inches and a glimmer of a story can become a full blown exclusive. That’s how it is and why I like to either hear it from the horse’s mouth or with something more than what I’ve read.
It may be right, it may not be. If it is, we will make a profit of X. If not it’ll be X+Y. if you are unhappy, contact Ashton, beat his door down and demand an explanation and let people know how you get on.
We have individuals that claim we will have to sell to meet FFP rules. A firesale in other words. They’ve said it, it must be right surely? Perhaps when you start on MA you can bring that up too, given it constitutes gross mismanagement?
You believe what you will, especially if it helps put the boot into the club and players as so many on this forum are aching to do with toy throwing, relentless negativity and flapping wet bedsheets.
I don’t think some people appreciate how lucky they are following a club like this, but then again maybe they were watching somebody else when we entertained Stockport, watched Ellington waddle about or McCarthy’s world beating midfield stumbling around their own penalty area.
So thank you for the advice. Maybe this football forum is not for me. Perhaps the Administrators should employ you to allow who posts on this forum and police it. |  | | |
| Yeah, knew it was something like that…. on 12:39 - Apr 10 with 853 views | Bloots |
| It's not an option you fool on 10:28 - Apr 10 by Dyland |
It's an obligation to buy Godfrey for £35m.
But only if we're relegated. |
….but obviously I’m not party to all the details.
I did hear there’s a £10m buyback clause built in though. |  |
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| The club will surely have known on 12:41 - Apr 10 with 844 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The club will surely have known on 10:18 - Apr 10 by darkhorse28 |
Why couldn’t we sign him with a £40-50 million release. According to Ashton it was Ed that sealed the deal, so asking a player so young to believe in himself hardly seems a deal breaker.
Or WE got it wrong, didn’t protect the club, and gave all the leverage to Delap and his agents.
They’ll make tens of millions, and we’ll suffer massively giving away our only sellable asset, at £20-30 million below market value. We will have PSR consequences for the rest of the squad, more sales etc
I can’t imagine Delap would have walked away from thinking he could be worth £40 or £50 million in a year, especially when players have all the power to leave clubs anyway. In the context of KM’s champions league contract, and £150 million spent on EFL players, it doesn’t seem hard to believe we just messed up another important decision. |
The fact you registered for an account just today just to rant about Delap, whilst seeming to not know that it isn't the club who insisted on a release clause makes me want to doff my cap to you sir.
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| The club will surely have known on 12:49 - Apr 10 with 827 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The club will surely have known on 11:40 - Apr 10 by muccletonjoe |
Come on , you know as well as I do , that younger players have been bought in since they have been injured. So it depends whether they are going to fight for their place or go elsewhere to get first team football. |
Name these younger players who have been bought in since Chappers and Burns got injured. | |
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