| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:14 - Apr 24 with 4195 views | MattinLondon |
Bollox.
Of course we stood a chance. We’ve made a lot of unforced mistakes this season and have had to contend with a lot of injuries. It’s a big jump but it is possible. [Post edited 24 Apr 14:14]
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:20 - Apr 24 with 4148 views | blueasfook |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:14 - Apr 24 by MattinLondon |
Bollox.
Of course we stood a chance. We’ve made a lot of unforced mistakes this season and have had to contend with a lot of injuries. It’s a big jump but it is possible. [Post edited 24 Apr 14:14]
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It's galling that we have given away 27 pts from winning positions. The inability to close out a lead has killed us. There are some games we would have always have lost against the likes of Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal but plenty we could/should have won. |  |
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:30 - Apr 24 with 4095 views | Sharkey |
"Can we keep the (prize) money and stay down here?" What's the highest level in the football pyramid from which you can decline to be promoted? In theory, could Needham Market have said 'no thanks' to promotion last season, having studied a map? |  | | |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:31 - Apr 24 with 4081 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:20 - Apr 24 by blueasfook |
It's galling that we have given away 27 pts from winning positions. The inability to close out a lead has killed us. There are some games we would have always have lost against the likes of Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal but plenty we could/should have won. |
Given the circumstance, the simple answer is that the odds were against us to "could/should have won".
It's a reasonable article, and more needs to written about the crazy imbalance. |  | | |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:48 - Apr 24 with 3945 views | MattinLondon |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:30 - Apr 24 by Sharkey |
"Can we keep the (prize) money and stay down here?" What's the highest level in the football pyramid from which you can decline to be promoted? In theory, could Needham Market have said 'no thanks' to promotion last season, having studied a map? |
No idea, but if a professional club were to say that, that club might as well put up a huge sign outside their club saying ‘no ambition’ and watch their players put in transfer requests. | | | |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:19 - Apr 24 with 3790 views | textbackup |
The post above yours says we’d be staying up currently if games were 75mins and not 90mins… so, that’s horsesht really |  |
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:25 - Apr 24 with 3747 views | blueasfook |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:31 - Apr 24 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Given the circumstance, the simple answer is that the odds were against us to "could/should have won".
It's a reasonable article, and more needs to written about the crazy imbalance. |
Shipping goals has been our Achilles heel for the last 3 seasons. It just so happens we were able to outscore the opposition in lower leagues. Being sloppy at the back has been our trademark under McKenna. | |
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:28 - Apr 24 with 3724 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:30 - Apr 24 by Sharkey |
"Can we keep the (prize) money and stay down here?" What's the highest level in the football pyramid from which you can decline to be promoted? In theory, could Needham Market have said 'no thanks' to promotion last season, having studied a map? |
No they can’t. Even as low down as step 6 teams cannot refuse promotion. It’s permitted in the Suffolk & Ipswich League but still frowned upon and usually rejected without very good reason (e.g. We got promoted to senior division then our manager left and took all our players so we will be fielding our Div 6 reserves as our firsts next year). | | | |
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:32 - Apr 24 with 3698 views | noggin |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:19 - Apr 24 by textbackup |
The post above yours says we’d be staying up currently if games were 75mins and not 90mins… so, that’s horsesht really |
Marathon winners don't always lead at the halfway stage. |  |
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:41 - Apr 24 with 3631 views | textbackup |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:32 - Apr 24 by noggin |
Marathon winners don't always lead at the halfway stage. |
What I mean is saying we never stood a chance is wrong, we did. Clearly | |
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:44 - Apr 24 with 3638 views | noggin |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:41 - Apr 24 by textbackup |
What I mean is saying we never stood a chance is wrong, we did. Clearly |
Depends if you take into account quality on the bench and fitness levels of the starting 11, I suppose. | |
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:47 - Apr 24 with 3618 views | artsbossbeard |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:28 - Apr 24 by SimonBatfordITFC |
No they can’t. Even as low down as step 6 teams cannot refuse promotion. It’s permitted in the Suffolk & Ipswich League but still frowned upon and usually rejected without very good reason (e.g. We got promoted to senior division then our manager left and took all our players so we will be fielding our Div 6 reserves as our firsts next year). |
Had the same with the team I was involved with with the added caveat that the reserve team were basically a bunch of mates who wanted to play together and had no interest in playing in the Senior Division.
League rules are that you can't keep a team in a lower division should you fold a higher division team, so we had to fold both adults teams. [Post edited 24 Apr 15:48]
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:48 - Apr 24 with 3605 views | Herbivore |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:25 - Apr 24 by blueasfook |
Shipping goals has been our Achilles heel for the last 3 seasons. It just so happens we were able to outscore the opposition in lower leagues. Being sloppy at the back has been our trademark under McKenna. |
Erm, we had the best defensive record in the league when we got promoted from League 1 to the Championship so that's not entirely accurate. We also had the 7th best defence in the Championship so not sure it's right to say shipping goals was our Achilles heel at that level either. |  |
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:49 - Apr 24 with 3566 views | Herbivore |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:19 - Apr 24 by textbackup |
The post above yours says we’d be staying up currently if games were 75mins and not 90mins… so, that’s horsesht really |
Damn that 90min rule | |
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:56 - Apr 24 with 3505 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:41 - Apr 24 by textbackup |
What I mean is saying we never stood a chance is wrong, we did. Clearly |
Someone didn’t read the article before kicking off an argument. | | | |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:59 - Apr 24 with 3484 views | EuanTown |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:49 - Apr 24 by Herbivore |
Damn that 90min rule |
Maybe that is the way forward. As the ball is in play so little apparently. Maybe games should be reduced to say 80 minutes and then maybe teams would play more and spoil / waste time less?
Then when you add on the additional time for time wasting we get to 90 minutes anyway? |  | | |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 16:11 - Apr 24 with 3414 views | TresBonne |
I just think we failed to deliver in so many big moments in games this season. Whereas last season, we were the opposite - game was on a knife's edge and we took our chances.
See Bristol City, Sunderland I remember missed a 1 on 1 and five mins later Chappers headed home, Southampton of course.
Then this season as already mentioned we've dropped 27 pts from winning positions. Thinking back to games like Leicester, last min equaliser, Fulham we hit the post to go 1-3 up and they go down the other end to get a penalty and score.
There's a lot of reasons for it, mainly being IMO that other teams just have stronger benches and bigger lads to come on and seal out a game. But a lot of it just comes down to pot luck. If I remember correctly, that Jack Clarke shot @ Fulham goes in and it was 2 wins on the bounce (3 incl FA Cup) with a decent home fixture approaching. Frustrating, but fine margins. We'll be fine next season. [Post edited 24 Apr 16:13]
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 16:39 - Apr 24 with 3297 views | Sharkey |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:48 - Apr 24 by MattinLondon |
No idea, but if a professional club were to say that, that club might as well put up a huge sign outside their club saying ‘no ambition’ and watch their players put in transfer requests. |
I assumed it was a few levels below the fully professional level. But it is a shame if a group of mates has to break up because the travel becomes way too much in the higher league. And surely it's better to be allowed to decline promotion than just to throw the last few games of the season. | | | |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 17:06 - Apr 24 with 3201 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:25 - Apr 24 by blueasfook |
Shipping goals has been our Achilles heel for the last 3 seasons. It just so happens we were able to outscore the opposition in lower leagues. Being sloppy at the back has been our trademark under McKenna. |
The difference in previous seasons is that we had the bench available to come on and make a difference. This season the shoe was on the other foot, contributed to by injuries and generally not having the depth of quality that other established teams had. | | | |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 17:47 - Apr 24 with 3078 views | bsw72 |
Point of order - what we all know NOW.
A lot of us were hoping for 17th or even higher, such heady days of 2024 summer where we dreamed the [now] impossible dream . . . . |  | | |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 21:18 - Apr 24 with 2755 views | Melford |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 15:47 - Apr 24 by artsbossbeard |
Had the same with the team I was involved with with the added caveat that the reserve team were basically a bunch of mates who wanted to play together and had no interest in playing in the Senior Division.
League rules are that you can't keep a team in a lower division should you fold a higher division team, so we had to fold both adults teams. [Post edited 24 Apr 15:48]
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I know a couple of Cricket teams near me basically throw the last few games so they don't get promoted because they know it will be a turkey shoot ability-wise next level up and there will be a lot more travel so they don't bother with it. |  |
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| Ipswich never stood a chance on 00:44 - Apr 25 with 2494 views | ClareBlue |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 21:18 - Apr 24 by Melford |
I know a couple of Cricket teams near me basically throw the last few games so they don't get promoted because they know it will be a turkey shoot ability-wise next level up and there will be a lot more travel so they don't bother with it. |
And my nephew's rugby union team always just miss out on promotion to the league above which is full of teams with ex rugby league players who lost their contracts for being too violent. Every time they play one of them in the cup they lose by 20 points and get 3 or 4 bad injuries. Club has basically said if you want to play in that league join a team in the league. | | | |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 17:00 - Apr 25 with 1846 views | Blue_In_Boston |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:20 - Apr 24 by blueasfook |
It's galling that we have given away 27 pts from winning positions. The inability to close out a lead has killed us. There are some games we would have always have lost against the likes of Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal but plenty we could/should have won. |
This 'points lost from winning positions' is a fact but also a statistical nonsense.
Losing at home to Bournemouth accounts for 3 of them, as does going 1-0 up early on at Manchester City. Hardly the same feeling of despair and loss.... | | | |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 21:32 - Apr 25 with 1636 views | ITFCson |
We did stand a chance, in fact we stood a very good chance. We were around evens to get relegated. We had a around 50% chance of staying up. It is only with the benefit of hindsight the truer chance may of actually been less. Anyone who genuinely thought we had zero chance at the start of the season as well as being psychic could of made a fortune.
Southampton were even greater odds to get relegated. It is a lot easier to speak about the chances of things happening after they have actually happened. | | | |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 07:58 - Apr 26 with 1341 views | Churchman |
| Ipswich never stood a chance on 14:31 - Apr 24 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Given the circumstance, the simple answer is that the odds were against us to "could/should have won".
It's a reasonable article, and more needs to written about the crazy imbalance. |
I too think it’s a reasonable article.
Yes, we stood a chance and if everything had gone 100% to plan including fitness to key players, all transfers in to the success levels of Delap and key decisions at right times gone in our favour, we might have been a lot closer if not survived. All that was never going to happen.
However for me the key bit of the article is: ‘for the 2023-24 financial year. Nottingham Forest, who survived relegation by one place that season, posted a revenue of £155m. Over the same period, Ipswich’s revenue was £18m’
Ok, this season we too got tv revenues, but cumulatively this highlights the financial imbalance. So while you always have a chance, the odds are stacked against and season by season the gap has to grow, unless the odd club self destructs as Leicester seem to have done.
As a big club with plenty of PL players still and a good academy, Leeds may get closer to surviving than the last six teams, but if I was a betting man I wouldn’t put a penny on it. |  | | |
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