| Is this the worst season in our history then? 17:26 - May 11 with 2398 views | vapour_trail |
Must be from a statistical perspective. Especially at home. That’s been dreadful. And after 130m spent on recruitment.
Obvs there’s the whole league one journey, fighting against the odds, but it must be our worst season, right?
Maybe some older blues will have something worse? |  |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 17:41 - May 11 with 1878 views | Herbivore |
The season we got relegated from the Championship was worse, imo. We were utterly dreadful and in a worse league than this. |  |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 17:43 - May 11 with 1864 views | Blue_Heath |
Cue the downvoters but statistically I haven't checked but 1 home win must make it comfortably the worst by a distance I would have thought. |  | | |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 17:44 - May 11 with 1852 views | tcblue |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 17:41 - May 11 by Herbivore |
The season we got relegated from the Championship was worse, imo. We were utterly dreadful and in a worse league than this. |
Yep.
Plus the football was dire to watch | | | |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 17:55 - May 11 with 1798 views | pointofblue |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 17:41 - May 11 by Herbivore |
The season we got relegated from the Championship was worse, imo. We were utterly dreadful and in a worse league than this. |
Though oddly with a similar approach - signing players who, for the most part, we're not ready to compete at the level the club were at. In both cases, it can be argued we had little choice due to the financial situation (Evans barely putting in any money to revitalise the squad in 2018; our on field progression overtaking off field progression this time around). | |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 17:58 - May 11 with 1793 views | textbackup |
The champ to L1 season is the worse I’ve seen. However, in terms of enjoyment, this one isn’t too far off. |  |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 17:59 - May 11 with 1787 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 17:58 - May 11 by textbackup |
The champ to L1 season is the worse I’ve seen. However, in terms of enjoyment, this one isn’t too far off. |
It's the almost choreographed predictability of it. That Wolves home game being a perfect example. I could've bet my house on their equaliser being followed by a winner. |  |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 18:00 - May 11 with 1785 views | JakeITFC |
Whatever season it was that we lost 3-0 against Wimbledon and Northampton in the same week gets my vote. Think we went about six weeks without a goal against absolute pub teams. |  | | |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 18:04 - May 11 with 1758 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 18:00 - May 11 by JakeITFC |
Whatever season it was that we lost 3-0 against Wimbledon and Northampton in the same week gets my vote. Think we went about six weeks without a goal against absolute pub teams. |
The only comfort being that fans weren't allowed into the grounds at this point.
I've just had a look at our results from that season and I can barely remember a thing about it. | |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 18:05 - May 11 with 1733 views | Herbivore |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 17:55 - May 11 by pointofblue |
Though oddly with a similar approach - signing players who, for the most part, we're not ready to compete at the level the club were at. In both cases, it can be argued we had little choice due to the financial situation (Evans barely putting in any money to revitalise the squad in 2018; our on field progression overtaking off field progression this time around). |
That's rather an over-simplification of things. Under Hurst, we signed a load of players who were already at or close to their peak and most of them had only ever played in League 1 and League 2. They replaced much better players, such as Webster and Waghorn, for example. This season we've signed players who haven't made the step up yet but who all have high ceilings and who have improved our squad. For all they've not produced yet, I doubt anyone would seriously claim that Philogene and Clarke aren't as good as Jackson and Harness. | |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 18:05 - May 11 with 1727 views | Herbivore |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 18:04 - May 11 by gainsboroughblue |
The only comfort being that fans weren't allowed into the grounds at this point.
I've just had a look at our results from that season and I can barely remember a thing about it. |
People often repress traumatic experiences. | |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 18:09 - May 11 with 1696 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 18:05 - May 11 by Herbivore |
People often repress traumatic experiences. |
I mean, most times you'd at least remember the opening day game, or the last one. But Wigan (h) first day 2-0 win?? Nope, absolutely no memory of it. I mean, we were living in a weird time with covid and everything but yeah, I'm struggling to pick anything out of that year other than Lambert going and Cook coming in. | |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 18:40 - May 11 with 1577 views | TJS |
In terms of top flight seasons it’s pretty similar to 1994-95
1994/95 PL42 W7 D6 L29 F36 A93 GD-57 PTS 27 PPG 0.64
2024/25 PL36 W4 D10 L22 F35 A77 GD-42 PTS 22 PPG 0.61
We’ve arguably been slightly more competitive in terms of matches lost and goals conceded. |  | | |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 18:49 - May 11 with 1533 views | Dubtractor |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 18:00 - May 11 by JakeITFC |
Whatever season it was that we lost 3-0 against Wimbledon and Northampton in the same week gets my vote. Think we went about six weeks without a goal against absolute pub teams. |
There were so many alarm bells ringing in my head about Paul Cook during that run.
We only needed to be half competitive to sneak into the playoffs, and we were fooking woeful.
On the OP, in pure statistical terms, this must be one of our very worst ever. |  |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 19:08 - May 11 with 1469 views | flykickingbybgunn |
After being champions in 62, the relegation in 64 was grim. Jackie (Wor) Milburn was a manager that did not believe in requiring too much from his players.
A brilliant player for Newcastle made an appalling manager for us. |  | | |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 19:23 - May 11 with 1421 views | StNeotsBlue |
For me 94/95 was the worst, setting up from the start for a 0-0 and then having no plan b when we inevitabily conceded. Went on a run of not scoring in about 9 games which I believe was eventually broken at Highbury when we already 4 down but was celebrated like a Cup final winner much to the bemusement of the Arsenal fans! |  | | |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 19:31 - May 11 with 1392 views | Radlett_blue |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 19:23 - May 11 by StNeotsBlue |
For me 94/95 was the worst, setting up from the start for a 0-0 and then having no plan b when we inevitabily conceded. Went on a run of not scoring in about 9 games which I believe was eventually broken at Highbury when we already 4 down but was celebrated like a Cup final winner much to the bemusement of the Arsenal fans! |
42 games then but we did get 27 points so we weren't technically any more outclassed than we have been this season. But yes, it felt far worse.
Yes, we'd failed to score in 7 consecutive games & then we got a consolation goal at Highbury! |  |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 19:57 - May 11 with 1325 views | Epiphone |
The way we went down to the third tier from the Championship without even a whimper was my most embarrassing experience as a Town fan for over 50 years.The tail end of MM's tenure leading up to it ran it a close second though,never experienced a worse disconnect between the Club and fans even in the grim John Duncan days. |  | | |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 20:32 - May 11 with 1247 views | Churchman |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 18:00 - May 11 by JakeITFC |
Whatever season it was that we lost 3-0 against Wimbledon and Northampton in the same week gets my vote. Think we went about six weeks without a goal against absolute pub teams. |
Yep, that was worse. They chucked in the towel. Downed tools.
The Hurst Lambert @rses in the air relegation heroes? Same. Duncan years? Ghastly. Jewell’s surrender mob? Dear me.
Lyall/McGiven’s lot? Were you there when Wednesday walked through us and the team gave up? I was. Those that didn’t walk out were on the pitch doing their biscuits. That’s what worse looks like. |  | | |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 20:48 - May 11 with 1205 views | MedwayTractor |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 19:08 - May 11 by flykickingbybgunn |
After being champions in 62, the relegation in 64 was grim. Jackie (Wor) Milburn was a manager that did not believe in requiring too much from his players.
A brilliant player for Newcastle made an appalling manager for us. |
Without looking up the results, we let in 10 against Fulham, 9 against Stoke and a few other games ended with near cricket scores. At least we've been spared that this season. |  |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 20:55 - May 11 with 1177 views | bsw72 |
Football is more than statistics though. Feels like we’ve been closer in more games than we were in 94-5, and still feels like we have more potential and things to look forward to than we did after the 2001-02 relegation.
This season is a long way off our worst imo |  | | |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 21:03 - May 11 with 1135 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 17:41 - May 11 by Herbivore |
The season we got relegated from the Championship was worse, imo. We were utterly dreadful and in a worse league than this. |
We were “competitive” between both boxes then too. As if it means anything. |  |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 21:10 - May 11 with 1098 views | TractorFrog |
It's been a horrible season for very different reasons than the likes of 2018/2019 and 2020/21, essentially because it came right after two of the best. I only got into football/ITFC in 2014/15 so the last two seasons have been by far the best I have seen as an Ipswich fan and this one coming right after it makes it more bitter.
In 2018/19 and 2020/21, it felt like we were an awful team, getting awful results, but at least that was easy to accept. If fans or pundits heavily criticised the team, it didn't hurt because it was fair enough. We could delve into the tactical errors of Hurst, Lambert and Cook, or say certain players are just not good enough without guilt. But this season, because we all love the team and manager so much, it hurts to say that we aren't good enough. Kieran McKenna is the best manager I have seen at this club by an absolute mile, and showed it by getting promoted last season as massive underdogs, and so nobody wants to criticise him, but at the same time, we don't want to be happy with four wins all season and being nowhere near staying up. Similarly, Sam Morsy and Leif Davis have been the two best players I have seen for Ipswich in terms of contribution, so it isn't nice to see them getting criticised when there is no way we would be in this league without them.
I also find it difficult to warm to new players when you know that they are pushing out a promotion hero. When they are given endless chances and aren't an improvement on the player who got us here, like Muric, Johnson, Greaves, Phillips, Clarke, Enciso and Philogene it is particularly annoying, but even those who have been a huge success like Liam Delap or Dara O'Shea, it is hard to get too attached when they are keeping George Hirst and Luke Woolfenden out of the team, and their role is instead to be the best players of a relegation team which doesn't make them club heroes. I don't really like having obvious favourites in the team, but that's what happens when the gap between two leagues is so big that players who are good enough for second in the championship aren't good enough to start in the Premier League.
The famous adage is 'never change a winning team', and I wish the likes of Walton, Clarke, Woolfenden, Burgess, Luongo, Chaplin, Broadhead and Hirst had been given more of a chance this season, and that Hladky, Edmundson, Harness and Jackson had stayed for a Premier League season, but as mentioned before it isn't fun to criticise McKenna's choices considering he has proven to be a top level manager and we wouldn't be in the league without him. And we know realistically that this approach is better in the long-term. I think we would have more points if we had used the promotion team more, but still been relegated and then there is nowhere to go from there as that team had peaked, whereas the new signings have the potential to stay up if they gel and have the momentum of a championship promotion behind them. But it is just sad for football that teams that get promoted from the championship can't compete in the Premier League without significant upgrades and that's just how it is.
We know realistically that this is the best football team we have had in years, including last season, and are punching above our weight just by being in this league, but we are just awful for the league we are in. Don't forget that last season, the fact that we beat Southampton would be an example of the team massively overperforming, and this season, Southampton have only just avoided the lowest Premier League points tally in history. We could have recruited better but even with a perfect season it would have been a struggle to stay up, that's just the nature of the Premier League nowadays. It's somehow more frustrating to see Ipswich Town getting slaughtered and feel like we are still about as good as we could be, than it is seeing Ipswich get slaughtered and know that this is because they are woefully underperforming which was the case in previous terrible seasons. It's that juxtaposition of being our best team in a long time, and yet getting our worst results so not being able to enjoy it, that makes this season so painful.
Also Premier League football is just rubbish to watch compared to Championship football because the players are rewarded for being incapable of staying on their feet. [Post edited 11 May 21:19]
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 21:31 - May 11 with 1026 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Didn't we lose heavily to Peterborough in a dire League 1 season where we were nowhere near good enough for promotion? Surely statistically failing to win however many games we failed to in that division is far worse than losing the number we have in the Premier League.
Don't get me wrong, this season hasn't been great at all. But to describe it as our worst ever is hyperbole. I would even argue that getting relegated from the Premier League the season after we had finished 5th in it was worse. Finishing bottom with 27 points from 42 matches and a 9-0 drubbing was probably a worse season than this one. We scored 36 goals and had a -57 goal difference that season. It was also 4 or 5 places below where we are finishing this one. |  |
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| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 21:41 - May 11 with 991 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
Is stats the right way to measure it though? Surely the emotional side of it is what really matters. For some, that will make this the worst season in history.
However, having been through the ups and downs of following Town through 6 different decades, there have been far more emotionally scaring seasons - as others have mentioned.
Although disappointed by this season, I’ve actually enjoyed much of it. Our current journey is a great revival story - some would argue a resurrection. Yes, we’ve hit a speed bump, but I see what we’re building, and I’m bought into it. I have that investment, which helps being positive and that brings enjoyment rather than being dejected. | | | |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 21:42 - May 11 with 987 views | DarkBrandon |
| Is this the worst season in our history then? on 20:55 - May 11 by bsw72 |
Football is more than statistics though. Feels like we’ve been closer in more games than we were in 94-5, and still feels like we have more potential and things to look forward to than we did after the 2001-02 relegation.
This season is a long way off our worst imo |
I agree. After 95 you felt the team needed an almost complete rebuild, as so much of the squad had aged together.
Now although changes will have to be made, we have delap who is likely to be playing in Europe next season, and a few others who might end up back in the PL.
This is a far far better side and squad than we had then.
02 was different. You felt we had the core of a good side then, although we were obviously on the edge financially |  | | |
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