| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? 09:41 - May 13 with 4429 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
With seemingly so many clubs desperate for his signature at only £30m, it's going to take a lot of tooing and froing with his personal terms, with each club offering different wages, length, bonuses etc., all trying to outdo each other. His representatives will be going over it all with a fine tooth comb to extract the best deal, and paring that with other considerations like who's more likely to play him (he's going to need to play if he wants to make the England squad), plus who's going to be in Europe (and who might be challenging for it) and who's likely to be looking at other honours, who's likely to be a basket case, fanbase, desirability of living in the area etc etc.
The presumably at our end we still have scope to negotiate sell-on clauses?
So my thinking, with all that to sort out and no need to rush with so many options likely on the table, his sale could go quite near to the end of the transfer window, well after the season's started. Whilst we'd obviously prefer to get a new striker bedded in, Delap will surely still play if he's still here? Unless we decide to protect him in case of injury? |  |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 10:51 - May 13 with 834 views | itfctilidie |
Another possibility is, he goes to the u21s, gets crocked until feb/march, comes back and fires us to promotion. Of course not wishing I'll on Liam, but wonder whether it will be done before or after u21s- club pushing for before I would imagine, guaranteed sale. |  | | |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 10:57 - May 13 with 806 views | SmithersJones |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 10:47 - May 13 by tractorboy1978 |
How is he better off playing Championship football though? He's proving nothing to anybody. He is a PL player and needs to go and play at that level, testing himself further against the very best (agree he needs to be choosy about where he goes and make sure he is getting games). [Post edited 13 May 10:48]
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In addition (not that we have any say in the matter) it’s unlikely his value goes up by playing a further season in the championship. And if in some strange world he did play for us next season and got less than, say, 20 goals, it probably goes down. |  | | |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 11:28 - May 13 with 755 views | wischip |
I'd love it if he stayed but given there's seemingly about 14 English clubs qualifying for European competitions next season they are all going to want extra strikers to cover the extra fixtures. |  | | |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 11:32 - May 13 with 745 views | textbackup |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 10:27 - May 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Ideally, yes, but surely it's out of our hands? How do we "let it drag on"? He signs for whoever he fancies once the representatives and lawyers sort out the major and minor points to get the best deal. I don't see how we have any say in that, unless we added a clause that says it has to be done by a certain time, which I've not heard of before. |
Unsure if this can be done, but MA speaks to LD agent. He says you put the feelers out, we know he’s going, tell any interested parties they have until June 15th to submit their £30m bid and their wage offer… LD then has until June 20th to decide.
Now THAT is us being very well protected |  |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 11:40 - May 13 with 714 views | Zx1988 |
It's probably all going on behind the scenes as we speak, unless LD has told Ashton that he has no desire to move.
Soundings will be being made already and, if need be, it wouldn't surprise me if the whole matter goes to the footballing equivalent of 'best and final offers'. | |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 11:44 - May 13 with 712 views | Metal_Hacker |
I dare say apart from the finer details , he knows where he’s going now |  |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 11:46 - May 13 with 706 views | ArnieM |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 10:47 - May 13 by tractorboy1978 |
How is he better off playing Championship football though? He's proving nothing to anybody. He is a PL player and needs to go and play at that level, testing himself further against the very best (agree he needs to be choosy about where he goes and make sure he is getting games). [Post edited 13 May 10:48]
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Because it's " miles under the belt" we games, games, games games, games =experience. He didn't play that much at Hill. He joins us and plays games. We're in the PL and he's had games at thus level. You take out his 2-3 month purple patch in the first half of the season and although he's played thd games he found it harder to make an impact as defenders have dealt with him.
Put him in another PL club and he won't continue to get games.
Stay with us he will get more games and learn the extra tools he needs to adapt to defenders ta tics against him. We'd hopefully only be talking 1 season in Championship and we'd get promoted again...again he'd get more games. If he goes to any of the so called big PL clubs, he'll sit on the bench more than he'll play. He'll learn far less " watching" at those clubs, than doing at Town. |  |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 11:50 - May 13 with 691 views | Bobbychase |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 09:42 - May 13 by BlueBadger |
I suspect his chances of playing for us in the Championship are slightly lower than my chances of a second date with Natalie Imbruglia. |
What went wrong on the first one
AH soz. This has already been discussed [Post edited 13 May 11:52]
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 12:00 - May 13 with 658 views | Smoresy |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 11:32 - May 13 by textbackup |
Unsure if this can be done, but MA speaks to LD agent. He says you put the feelers out, we know he’s going, tell any interested parties they have until June 15th to submit their £30m bid and their wage offer… LD then has until June 20th to decide.
Now THAT is us being very well protected |
I wouldn't hold a candle for that but we are only talking personal terms here, when the sticking point is normally clubs refusing to meet in the middle on a transfer fee. And talks seem to have begun in earnest the second we became a corpse, which is/was six weeks before the window opens, two months before the new financial season kicks off. He should be all talked out by June, I know I would be. | | | |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 12:04 - May 13 with 653 views | Smoresy |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 11:46 - May 13 by ArnieM |
Because it's " miles under the belt" we games, games, games games, games =experience. He didn't play that much at Hill. He joins us and plays games. We're in the PL and he's had games at thus level. You take out his 2-3 month purple patch in the first half of the season and although he's played thd games he found it harder to make an impact as defenders have dealt with him.
Put him in another PL club and he won't continue to get games.
Stay with us he will get more games and learn the extra tools he needs to adapt to defenders ta tics against him. We'd hopefully only be talking 1 season in Championship and we'd get promoted again...again he'd get more games. If he goes to any of the so called big PL clubs, he'll sit on the bench more than he'll play. He'll learn far less " watching" at those clubs, than doing at Town. |
He played all the while for Hull, apart from the period he was injured. If he's worried about time on the field then he should choose a lower PL outfit like Everton or West Ham. He won't make the same progress with the space and time afforded to strikers in the Championship. | | | |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 12:27 - May 13 with 611 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 11:28 - May 13 by wischip |
I'd love it if he stayed but given there's seemingly about 14 English clubs qualifying for European competitions next season they are all going to want extra strikers to cover the extra fixtures. |
Again, have you read the OP? I'm not saying he won't go, I'm saying he might still be here by the time the season starts. | |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 12:31 - May 13 with 601 views | textbackup |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 12:27 - May 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Again, have you read the OP? I'm not saying he won't go, I'm saying he might still be here by the time the season starts. |
Having him here would be really unsettling IMO.
Would also mean that if we haven’t got in our replacement by then he’s going to then need time to bed in and learn the system.
But then if we DID have his replacement in, and he was on the bench behind LD, that too would feel wrong. | |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 12:31 - May 13 with 601 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 11:32 - May 13 by textbackup |
Unsure if this can be done, but MA speaks to LD agent. He says you put the feelers out, we know he’s going, tell any interested parties they have until June 15th to submit their £30m bid and their wage offer… LD then has until June 20th to decide.
Now THAT is us being very well protected |
Unless that's in the contract/part of the release clause, no it can't be done. | |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 12:35 - May 13 with 597 views | itfcsuth |
More chance of me playing for us in the Championship next season.
His representatives will be talking numbers now with other clubs - he’s in a fantastic position, will get a big move, and a bumper contract.
Sure we are doing our prep work now for the replacement we would want in. |  | | |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 12:43 - May 13 with 569 views | textbackup |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 12:31 - May 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Unless that's in the contract/part of the release clause, no it can't be done. |
Hope it’s done quickly then. Don’t see the point in him being an ITFC player when we know he’s going | |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 13:25 - May 13 with 492 views | ArnieM |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 12:43 - May 13 by textbackup |
Hope it’s done quickly then. Don’t see the point in him being an ITFC player when we know he’s going |
Not really sure why were even playing him now tbh. | |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 13:49 - May 13 with 455 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 12:31 - May 13 by textbackup |
Having him here would be really unsettling IMO.
Would also mean that if we haven’t got in our replacement by then he’s going to then need time to bed in and learn the system.
But then if we DID have his replacement in, and he was on the bench behind LD, that too would feel wrong. |
Agreed, but if he was still here (because we had no choice, the deal simply hadn't concluded) surely you'd have him in the squad at least, if not starting? The strikers rotate in our system anyway, so whoever else we might've got in might be on the bench behind Hirst to start with anyway.
It would be unsettling, but if you've got the talent still here - he's still our player and the season's underway - then surely you've got to use him? He'd be lethal at Champ level. | |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 13:51 - May 13 with 452 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 13:25 - May 13 by ArnieM |
Not really sure why were even playing him now tbh. |
Because he's still our player, and the difference between 18th and 19th is about £3m. | |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 14:05 - May 13 with 424 views | BseaBlue |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 13:49 - May 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Agreed, but if he was still here (because we had no choice, the deal simply hadn't concluded) surely you'd have him in the squad at least, if not starting? The strikers rotate in our system anyway, so whoever else we might've got in might be on the bench behind Hirst to start with anyway.
It would be unsettling, but if you've got the talent still here - he's still our player and the season's underway - then surely you've got to use him? He'd be lethal at Champ level. |
Can't see us risking what would be our largest ever transfer fee received on a player (that you would hope) we should have a replacement in for by then. |  | | |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 14:06 - May 13 with 423 views | baxterbasics |
The ONLY scenario in which this happens is if Liam has fallen in love with ITFC so much that he does the big "I'm not fu**in' leaving!" speech ala Wolf of Wall Street.
So not likely. |  |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 14:18 - May 13 with 410 views | J2BLUE |
I would be amazed if he plays a single minute for us in the Championship.
I'd say there's more chance of him playing in the club world cup than the Championship. |  |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 14:46 - May 13 with 351 views | stickymockwell |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 10:09 - May 13 by Hciwspi |
How did the first date go? |
She was cold and shamed lying naked on the floor whilst Badger was on TWTD |  |
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| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 15:29 - May 13 with 309 views | hoppy |
| There's probably a decent chance Delap plays for us in the Champ, right? on 10:25 - May 13 by BlueBadger |
She's told me that we'll go out the first day that trickle-down economics benefits anyone there than the super-rich.
So, any day now, right? |
Any indication of a willingness on her part to relax the conditions of the restraining order? |  |
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