| Minimum expectations for next year…. 06:35 - May 20 with 6473 views | itfcjoe |
….for me - the only way promotion isn’t an acceptable outcome is a 90 point season where you lose in the playoffs.
Similar to what Leeds did last year, and what Sheff U may still do this season.
‘Top 6’ isn’t ambitious enough as a target - we’ve got to be there or thereabouts for automatic promotion.
Does that sound too harsh? I’m sure that’s what the club expectations will be - and betting markets will reflect that |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 06:38 - May 20 with 3623 views | BrandonsBlues |
My expectations will depend on who is at the club at the beginning of the season. |  | | |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:13 - May 20 with 3473 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
I don't think you're being too harsh, given the enormous financial disparities and lack of parachute payment teams in next season's Championship. The most likely way things go wrong for us is we lose McKenna and his replacement isn't up to scratch. | | | |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:20 - May 20 with 3423 views | textbackup |
The word expectations, lumped in with ITFC scare the sht out of me.
Been saying it for weeks on here, next season is going to be so sht compared to the last championship campaign. That was full of fun and hope and ‘oh god we are doing so well’ Vs next seasons ‘well go on then, we’ve got £XXXX amount of quality on the pitch, go and beat Watford away’
And if/when we start slow, or hit a bad patch, it’s going to be horrible in the stadium
I, like you, don’t see top 6 as ambitious enough with what we’ll have. But I do see it being a playoff finish. We just don’t have that spirit we had. |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:27 - May 20 with 3362 views | ITFC_Forever |
Yep.
We know we’ve got to overhaul a couple of parts of the squad, especially in central midfield…. But we should have the resources to do that comfortably. |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:35 - May 20 with 3318 views | itfcjoe |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:20 - May 20 by textbackup |
The word expectations, lumped in with ITFC scare the sht out of me.
Been saying it for weeks on here, next season is going to be so sht compared to the last championship campaign. That was full of fun and hope and ‘oh god we are doing so well’ Vs next seasons ‘well go on then, we’ve got £XXXX amount of quality on the pitch, go and beat Watford away’
And if/when we start slow, or hit a bad patch, it’s going to be horrible in the stadium
I, like you, don’t see top 6 as ambitious enough with what we’ll have. But I do see it being a playoff finish. We just don’t have that spirit we had. |
Win a few games and that soon comes back - but whatever happened at end of 23/24 season it wasn’t going to be “fun” for at least a decade after that as need to totally go down the pan to shed of any expectations!
We’ll be fine though | |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:36 - May 20 with 3283 views | Metal_Hacker |
I tend to agree that those heights are the ones we should be aiming for and perhaps should expect , my worry like Texters has highlighted is the feeling and momentum we had a couple of seasons ago
That’s fighting spirit and togetherness seems to have gone . Whether that be because of the season we’ve had just now or what I’m not sure BUT that needs to be re-established ….and quick ! |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:40 - May 20 with 3281 views | MattinLondon |
Given how much money we have spent this season and taking into account that next season we will have parachute payments. The absolute minimum is promotion via the playoffs. |  | | |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:49 - May 20 with 3219 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:20 - May 20 by textbackup |
The word expectations, lumped in with ITFC scare the sht out of me.
Been saying it for weeks on here, next season is going to be so sht compared to the last championship campaign. That was full of fun and hope and ‘oh god we are doing so well’ Vs next seasons ‘well go on then, we’ve got £XXXX amount of quality on the pitch, go and beat Watford away’
And if/when we start slow, or hit a bad patch, it’s going to be horrible in the stadium
I, like you, don’t see top 6 as ambitious enough with what we’ll have. But I do see it being a playoff finish. We just don’t have that spirit we had. |
I very much get what you are saying. It was fairly difficult when we hit a little patch of poorer form in January and everyone said Leeds, Leicester and Southampton were fighting it out and we were done for. The weight of expectation is something the team will have to learn to cope with and if they can't the moaners on here will be unbearable. |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:52 - May 20 with 3189 views | Dubtractor |
Absolutely we need to be a strong top 6 team (eg Sunderland thus season) as a minimum for me.
I'm not worried about the team spirit angle that others worry about. A lot of that comes as a by product of winning, and it's no great surprise that we've seen less of it when losing most weeks.
It's so important that we get the right midfield reinforcements in though. A number on here flagged that as the area we needed to strengthen in January, and in hindsight they were 100% right. |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:52 - May 20 with 3182 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:40 - May 20 by MattinLondon |
Given how much money we have spent this season and taking into account that next season we will have parachute payments. The absolute minimum is promotion via the playoffs. |
I feel this will be the majority view, and not an unreasonable one given the financial advantage we now have. I suspect an immediate return will be the club’s goal. I don’t know whether they’ll be open about it though.
I don’t have any expectations. I enjoy it more without as we can’t control the outcome anyway. The victories are sweeter and the losses less painful. I suppose as a minimum, I hope we’ll be entertained - that’s why I watch football. |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:00 - May 20 with 3132 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 07:52 - May 20 by Swansea_Blue |
I feel this will be the majority view, and not an unreasonable one given the financial advantage we now have. I suspect an immediate return will be the club’s goal. I don’t know whether they’ll be open about it though.
I don’t have any expectations. I enjoy it more without as we can’t control the outcome anyway. The victories are sweeter and the losses less painful. I suppose as a minimum, I hope we’ll be entertained - that’s why I watch football. |
Your last point is excellent, especially as the prize of promotion seems to be unwanted by a good proportion of fans. | |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:03 - May 20 with 3118 views | Smoresy |
Not unreasonable. As you say, our owners have invested to achieve bounce-back promotion as a minimum. We'll have the most handsomely paid manager in the division, to steer us to a top two finish with a top three budget.
If we play good stuff but finish on 80, that may not see heads roll, with the understanding that this sees us 3rd or 4th rather than 2nd. Below 75 and I can't see the manager surviving really, even if we impress in the playoffs - we won't have more than a couple of cracks at this before our advantage disappears. | | | |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:07 - May 20 with 3098 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:03 - May 20 by Smoresy |
Not unreasonable. As you say, our owners have invested to achieve bounce-back promotion as a minimum. We'll have the most handsomely paid manager in the division, to steer us to a top two finish with a top three budget.
If we play good stuff but finish on 80, that may not see heads roll, with the understanding that this sees us 3rd or 4th rather than 2nd. Below 75 and I can't see the manager surviving really, even if we impress in the playoffs - we won't have more than a couple of cracks at this before our advantage disappears. |
I think he would survive even on that low a tally provided we won the play offs. However, he would have used up all the credit in the bank that he has had and have little room to failto compete for survival in the Premier League.
With our record in the play offs and big matches generally, I wouldn't expect us to win the play offs from a 75 point or lower total. | |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:08 - May 20 with 3099 views | Churchman |
Doesn’t sound harsh at all. Top two has to be the target. |  | | |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:16 - May 20 with 3060 views | RegencyBlue |
I’d agree with this and I can’t imagine the owners are going to be happy with anything less. For the first time McKenna is going to be under real pressure from the off! |  | | |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:26 - May 20 with 2982 views | ArmaghBlue |
I, like the owners/shareholders will be expecting top 2. [Post edited 20 May 8:27]
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:37 - May 20 with 2877 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Top 2 the target.
And I believe that is what we will get. |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:38 - May 20 with 2875 views | Stadiumofdark |
Yep - we have to expect promotion, one way or another - sue to the ambition of the owners / budget etc.
I just worry about the amount of player churn again. ie. how many of current squad will be in first 11 by say, start of Nov? |  | | |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:39 - May 20 with 2869 views | homer_123 |
I guess I'm in the minority.
I wouldn't be too worried if promotion doesn't happen next season, as long as we are progressing, building the squad etc etc.
I do think we have to be there or thereabouts and be in the top 6 but promotion isn't the be all and end all. |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:40 - May 20 with 2867 views | baxterbasics |
I want to see exciting football and lots of goals, ideally for our side. I want to see energy and enthusiasm and fight from our players. I want the right attitude on and off the pitch. Emotion and spirit.
If despite all that we narrowly miss out on top two, I'll accept it. |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:41 - May 20 with 2857 views | PioneerBlue |
I agree with the premise of the second post.
Sitting here right now, yes I’d like to say my ambition is immediate return to the PL.
However I’ve supported ITFC long enough and watched enough football to know the summer will be full of challenges to put the right coaching and playing squad together, one that has a real chance. Then there are the 3 - 6 other highly competitive teams some far more settled than us going into Aug plus the 46 games and attritional season through to May.
I’d wait until the eve of the new season to make a real statement about how we will do next season! But yes, successful as a vision has to be focusing the mind on top 2 (certainly within 2 year the parachute period). | |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:55 - May 20 with 2747 views | Reuser_is_God |
No, that’s absolutely what the expectation should be.
How we deal with that is going to be another matter though, it’s going to be so different to 2023/24.
The more I’ve thought about it over the past few weeks since relegation the more I’ve realised just how special last season was. It will never be beaten. |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 09:01 - May 20 with 2706 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Assuming Sheffield United go up - top two should be the minimum really. You'd think our main competitor will be Leicester again, as Southampton appear to be in total disarray. We are the most stable club of the three and it should count for a lot.
Assuming Sheffield United don't go up - I think you then realistically have 3 teams battling for top 2(as past two years) so like you suggest it could be a 90 point playoff situation and obviously that can be a lottery at times.
Don't think it's harsh at all and don't think the rhetoric will be any different inside the club. |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 09:32 - May 20 with 2630 views | Guthrum |
Not at all harsh given our situation and if we have any desire to consolidate our achievements from the last three years. |  |
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| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 09:42 - May 20 with 2548 views | textbackup |
| Minimum expectations for next year…. on 08:39 - May 20 by homer_123 |
I guess I'm in the minority.
I wouldn't be too worried if promotion doesn't happen next season, as long as we are progressing, building the squad etc etc.
I do think we have to be there or thereabouts and be in the top 6 but promotion isn't the be all and end all. |
What?!
If we don’t get promoted, we’ve not progressed | |
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