| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 09:29 - Jul 14 with 2149 views | DarkBrandon |
Baggott has never played higher than league one.
Humphreys has played 3 times in the Championship, 61 times in league one.
We are looking for players who have a fighting chance of getting game time should we be promoted back to the PL.
If these two weren’t on our books would they even be on our radar?
Is them being under contract with us and constantly being loaned out doing them any good?
I’ve seen nothing of Baggott, and little of Humphreys, but I can’t help feeling the club has moved to a level where a parting of the ways might be best for all sides.
What do those who have seen more of them think? |  | | |  |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 09:58 - Jul 14 with 1908 views | durhamj |
I’ve seen Humphrey’s a few times but that was a few years back now. Seemed competent and was clearly liked by the other players. Think he’s played for a stretch of games due to a bit of an injury crisis. Not seen him play on loan, wasn’t he their player of season last year? |  | | |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:00 - Jul 14 with 1884 views | WeWereZombies |
Loan them both to Raja Casablanca ? |  |
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| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:02 - Jul 14 with 1866 views | JimmyJazz |
12 months ago Tyler Dibling had hardly played any professional games, neither had Sydie Peck for Sheff Utd. Both went on to be regular starters through the season at clubs at a similar level to us |  |
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| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:02 - Jul 14 with 1854 views | LeoMuff |
I think we would be pleased to be signing Cam one of the best young midfielders in league 1 last season, it just whether he is good enough for a promotion favourite in the championship at the moment.
You would think unless he has made a huge leap foward then a loan would be best for him, Baggott I can’t see any way he gets a squad place. |  |
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| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:05 - Jul 14 with 1809 views | JammyDodgerrr |
I suspect Baggott will become an excellent defender, and certainly can see him playing towards the top of the championship - but I suspect it's just too slow of a journey that it will happen with us unfortunately.
We would definitely have Cam on our radar I think, easily one of the best midfielders in that league last season, has versatility and lots of good traits. I think he'll be in and around the squad. |  |
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| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:07 - Jul 14 with 1800 views | homer_123 |
Cam is very decent. Had a really good season at Wycombe last year - certainly capable to playing in the Championship. I don't think he's hit his ceiling as yet either - quite a bit more potential there, IMO.
Baggott - struggled with injury and game time last year but continues to be highly rated, again likely able to do a job in the Championship.
I see Cam getting game time if he stays with us in the Championship, I don't quite see that with Baggott. Suspect both will go out on loan again.
To your wider question of Prem level players, Cam could get to that level, less sure of Baggott but that's just MO. Would they be on our radar, likely not.
That said, they are good players to have coming through our Academy. Min level we are looking for going forward. |  |
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| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:14 - Jul 14 with 1706 views | Mediocre_Quick |
What's your exact point here?
We're not supposed to develop our youngsters and just buy? Club has always relied on developing it's youth products
Woolfy is prime example of this, pretty sure he didn't play a lick of championship football before we got promoted back and then was one of the standouts in the defense that got us promoted |  | | |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:17 - Jul 14 with 1680 views | Guthrum |
I think that's a wrong way of looking at things.
There's no way we are going to be able to recruit anything like a Prem-survival-ready squad in the Championship. There isn't the financial leeway (PSR) and we aren't an attractive enough proposition. Plus we have the primary task of winning promotion to achieve first - in a notoriously difficult division.
If anything, we need to be utilising the players we have available now (if they're good enough), so that there is space to upgrade when we go up, rather than relatively new people on long contracts who are too expensive to move easily.
On another note, Humphreys is 21, just the threshold of a senior player's prime. He's only "been around so long" because he came to the fans' notice at an early age. For most, his development path (including accolades at loan clubs) would have been seen as a great success. These occasional prodigies who break into the top level at 18 years old can lead to some loose thinking about more "normal" players. |  |
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| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:19 - Jul 14 with 1668 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Its hard to say, has Baggott developed the way we had hoped?
Cam has just had an excellent season in L1 so what's his ceiling given his age?
Hard to say...... how does he compare to say El Miz and where he was when we let him go. Some thought he could be a main stay here, now hes back to L1. .... all things for management to think about |  |
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| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:30 - Jul 14 with 1568 views | C_Jam_Blue |
I do hope Humphreys gets his chance this year. Looking at the 2 new players, both appear to be physical, combative midfielders and with Morsy we will not be short of muscle in the middle of the park. There may well be games where we need a bit more creativity in midfield and I think Humphreys can help supply that.
Not quite so sure about Baggott, injury seems to have set back his progression so another season in League 1 or lower Championship may be best. | | | |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:33 - Jul 14 with 1544 views | Mediocre_Quick |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:30 - Jul 14 by C_Jam_Blue |
I do hope Humphreys gets his chance this year. Looking at the 2 new players, both appear to be physical, combative midfielders and with Morsy we will not be short of muscle in the middle of the park. There may well be games where we need a bit more creativity in midfield and I think Humphreys can help supply that.
Not quite so sure about Baggott, injury seems to have set back his progression so another season in League 1 or lower Championship may be best. |
Kipre is a centre half... | | | |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:34 - Jul 14 with 1543 views | gsoly |
We desperately need a young CM this summer who's happy to be here, develop, and play a small part when needed. If we signed Wycombe's best player (outside of Kone) to do exactly that, who was 21 and technically excellent, we'd all be suitably excited. |  | | |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:38 - Jul 14 with 1504 views | glasso |
Would they be on our radar to spend millions on? Probably not.
But would we take two highly regarded young players on a free? Yeah, I reckon we would. That's the comparison to make, not whether we'd be looking to buy them when they have little experience at our level.
Ultimately, we shouldn't get rid until we're absolutely certain they're not going to make the grade for us. I don't think we can do that yet - at their age and without playing a game or two for us now. Loans are a good benchmark and that's why it's good that they're going out and playing seasons of 'proper' football. | | | |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 11:06 - Jul 14 with 1344 views | itfctilidie |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:38 - Jul 14 by glasso |
Would they be on our radar to spend millions on? Probably not.
But would we take two highly regarded young players on a free? Yeah, I reckon we would. That's the comparison to make, not whether we'd be looking to buy them when they have little experience at our level.
Ultimately, we shouldn't get rid until we're absolutely certain they're not going to make the grade for us. I don't think we can do that yet - at their age and without playing a game or two for us now. Loans are a good benchmark and that's why it's good that they're going out and playing seasons of 'proper' football. |
Is elkan highly regarded though? Love to be wrong but he is 22, can't see him featuring in a town shirt again to be honest [Post edited 14 Jul 11:06]
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| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 11:08 - Jul 14 with 1321 views | LeightonBuzzardBlue |
Humphreys is very good - we'd definitely be looking at him.
He won Wycombe's Supporters' Player of the Year and their Young Player of the Year awards.
And, as an anecdote, my barber is a season ticket holder at Leyton Orient and said that, in both fixtures, Cam was the standout player "he should be nowhere near League 1".
I think he'll be given the full pre-season to show how he's improved in the last 12 months before any decision is made [Post edited 14 Jul 11:24]
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| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 11:17 - Jul 14 with 1262 views | bsw72 |
Clubs stick with players who they can see potential in, certainly from what I have seen of Humphreys, he has the ability to become a stong creative midfielder, but is still learning.
Baggott is very good on the ball and a capable defender, and I imagine is also developing still - I imagine the club will see out their contracts and see if they have developed where they ant them to be before they make any final decisions. |  | | |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 11:21 - Jul 14 with 1229 views | ReusersTown |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:34 - Jul 14 by gsoly |
We desperately need a young CM this summer who's happy to be here, develop, and play a small part when needed. If we signed Wycombe's best player (outside of Kone) to do exactly that, who was 21 and technically excellent, we'd all be suitably excited. |
I don't agree with the OP, but excited probably wouldn't be the emotion we'd be experiencing, considering where we've just come from | | | |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 13:04 - Jul 14 with 903 views | bartyg |
Would rather have Humphreys taking up a squad slot than Taylor who has had many chances over the last two years and shown very little. |  | | |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 13:18 - Jul 14 with 821 views | football |
As harsh as it is, I'd release both - I dont think either are good enough for where we want to be | | | |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 13:34 - Jul 14 with 754 views | Wallingford_Boy |
I'd keep Baggott just for socials bantz.
Not sure Hump is gonna make it at this level, a good league one player though. |  |
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| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 15:10 - Jul 14 with 526 views | Churchman |
Don’t know about Baggott. Not seen him so can’t comment. Humphreys played a little in the Championship so I’ve seen a little of him and on tv a couple of times for WW. He had an excellent season in L1. Why shouldn’t he do ok in the Championship? A lot of our L1 players flourished when we were promoted so why shouldn’t he?
From what I’ve seen, he can pass, likes to get involved, good awareness (doesn’t give the ball away too often) doesn’t mind a tackle and knows where the goal is. Good attitude too. Being young, he might well provide the legs our midfield sorely missed last season. I’d certainly have him in the squad try him out. I don’t think he will let anyone down and as others have said, think he’s a better player than Taylor. [Post edited 14 Jul 18:25]
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| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 15:16 - Jul 14 with 499 views | WeWereZombies |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 15:10 - Jul 14 by Churchman |
Don’t know about Baggott. Not seen him so can’t comment. Humphreys played a little in the Championship so I’ve seen a little of him and on tv a couple of times for WW. He had an excellent season in L1. Why shouldn’t he do ok in the Championship? A lot of our L1 players flourished when we were promoted so why shouldn’t he?
From what I’ve seen, he can pass, likes to get involved, good awareness (doesn’t give the ball away too often) doesn’t mind a tackle and knows where the goal is. Good attitude too. Being young, he might well provide the legs our midfield sorely missed last season. I’d certainly have him in the squad try him out. I don’t think he will let anyone down and as others have said, think he’s a better player than Taylor. [Post edited 14 Jul 18:25]
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As well as the development angle I think we can expect better of Humphreys when he has better players around him.
I did see Baggott play for us against Bristol Rovers in a cup tie a couple of years ago and he seemed out of position quite often, I wasn't over impressed on the strength of that game. | |
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| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 17:55 - Jul 14 with 331 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Humphreys is 21, Baggott is 22 on 10:14 - Jul 14 by Mediocre_Quick |
What's your exact point here?
We're not supposed to develop our youngsters and just buy? Club has always relied on developing it's youth products
Woolfy is prime example of this, pretty sure he didn't play a lick of championship football before we got promoted back and then was one of the standouts in the defense that got us promoted |
Jump between league 1/the Championship and Championship/PL is a bit different though.
Similarly we are now a club where expectations are much higher than 2 years ago. That’s the conundrum with the likes of Cam I think | |
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