| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now 09:56 - Jul 24 with 16589 views | bournemouthblue |
let's hope that's not true |  |
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:31 - Jul 24 with 2502 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:27 - Jul 24 by homer_123 |
He's doing no such thing. He has requested the option to talk to Prem Clubs, which is fair enough as far as I can see. |
That would be much more likely! [Post edited 24 Jul 10:31]
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:31 - Jul 24 with 2498 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:19 - Jul 24 by SuffolkPunchFC |
No - do it for the right value.
We hold most of the cards here. |
If any of our players don't want to play for ITFC then they need moving on and in this case for the agreed release fee.
The question is are there any other offers apart from Brentford. Maybe Omari is not as in demand as he thinks he might be. | | | |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:33 - Jul 24 with 2452 views | blueasfook |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:30 - Jul 24 by Nutkins_Return |
The OP says it's a rumour and he doesn't know it's true ffs. Weird thing to do to your own player. [Post edited 24 Jul 10:30]
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It may be true, it may not, or somewhere in between. To me, it seems plausible he's expecting to move on so maybe doesn't see the point of investing himself in pre-season preparations. |  |
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:36 - Jul 24 with 2398 views | Horsham |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:31 - Jul 24 by WolfieAtTheBack |
If any of our players don't want to play for ITFC then they need moving on and in this case for the agreed release fee.
The question is are there any other offers apart from Brentford. Maybe Omari is not as in demand as he thinks he might be. |
But nobody triggered the agreed release terms and that clause is expired anyway so we are entitled to negotiate how we wish.
£35m up front is worth a lot more than £35m over X years it’s not like the structure of payments isn’t important. |  | | |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:38 - Jul 24 with 2364 views | chantryblueboy |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:30 - Jul 24 by Nutkins_Return |
The OP says it's a rumour and he doesn't know it's true ffs. Weird thing to do to your own player. [Post edited 24 Jul 10:30]
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Let’s delete all rumours on the site then and just talk about politics all summer | | | |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:39 - Jul 24 with 2341 views | RIPbobby |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:24 - Jul 24 by OldFart71 |
If it was the case I think he's being a silly boy. We took him on, and paid exceptionally good money for him. Gave him a platform to perform on a probably a very decent contract .
I know there's not a lot of loyalty either way these days and contracts don't seem to mean zilch.
The main thing for me is that Town get the money they should out of it.
I know many will wish Omari stayed, but the bright lights of the Premier League are a big pull for a player.
My wish for him is that he doesn't go the same way as many young British wing players of the past in that he disappears into obscurity. |
As much as I want him to stay at Portman Road I can't complain if he has the chance to play world cup football next summer. Good luck. |  | | |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:40 - Jul 24 with 2315 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:31 - Jul 24 by WolfieAtTheBack |
If any of our players don't want to play for ITFC then they need moving on and in this case for the agreed release fee.
The question is are there any other offers apart from Brentford. Maybe Omari is not as in demand as he thinks he might be. |
There is no agreed release fee now, from what has been reported. It timed out.
That's what contracts are for, and a player/agent will expect them to be followed to their benefit (as with Delap) and the club should get the best result from the contract as well.
With n o release clause now active, it is right for the club to hold out for what they consider a fair valuation. History is littered with many clubs have dug their heels in, and the player ends up staying and playing for another half season, or more, until the club receives an offer they are willing to accept. | | | |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:42 - Jul 24 with 2275 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:33 - Jul 24 by blueasfook |
It may be true, it may not, or somewhere in between. To me, it seems plausible he's expecting to move on so maybe doesn't see the point of investing himself in pre-season preparations. |
I don't disagree with any of that. But the point remains it's just a rumour and the OP has no idea if true so why do this to the lad. | |
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:44 - Jul 24 with 2232 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:38 - Jul 24 by chantryblueboy |
Let’s delete all rumours on the site then and just talk about politics all summer |
Come on, there is a difference between posting a rumour that damages one of our young players reputation and standard transfer rumours etc | |
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:45 - Jul 24 with 2208 views | StokieBlue |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:38 - Jul 24 by chantryblueboy |
Let’s delete all rumours on the site then and just talk about politics all summer |
Context is important.
Big difference between rumours about transfers or formations and rumours about existing players allegedly refusing to work with the club in my opinion.
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:48 - Jul 24 with 2162 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:13 - Jul 24 by DarkBrandon |
Didn’t Smodzics to much the same to try and force a move through to us? |
Similar. He refused to play pre-season friendlies and trained by himself, so yeah he effectively refused to train with the squad (but to not have a negative affect on the squad in his own words). He obviously kept himself fit and Hutchinson could well be doing the same thing.
Ironically, the transfer sped up once he had returned to the team and played in their first two competitive games.
I don’t like that approach, but seemingly Blackburn were absolutely fine with it. |  |
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:49 - Jul 24 with 2111 views | blueasfook |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:42 - Jul 24 by Nutkins_Return |
I don't disagree with any of that. But the point remains it's just a rumour and the OP has no idea if true so why do this to the lad. |
I just don't like the "board police" approach of demanding things get taken down. The board has an admin who decides what stays or goes and he does the job fine. | |
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:52 - Jul 24 with 2064 views | Clutch |
Im strangely not too fussed if he leaves, if we get 35 million, that's a huge amount. |  | | |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:02 - Jul 24 with 1913 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:49 - Jul 24 by blueasfook |
I just don't like the "board police" approach of demanding things get taken down. The board has an admin who decides what stays or goes and he does the job fine. |
No demand made at all. I just gave my opinion which you are in favour of. You are now board policing me ;) (I'm saying that semi in jest). Just to confirm I just responded to OP saying best thing to do was bin it. It's up to him it's his thread. Just my. Opinion. All good. | |
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:02 - Jul 24 with 1910 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:52 - Jul 24 by Clutch |
Im strangely not too fussed if he leaves, if we get 35 million, that's a huge amount. |
It’s best to be pragmatic. We want players with high ceilings who we can develop. They either stay with us if we do well or move on if we don’t. That’s just the reality of football. At this stage I hope we get as much as we can for him and it’s all sorted reasonably quickly. So yeah, if we get £35m or more for him, that should help us no end. | |
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:03 - Jul 24 with 1894 views | tonybied |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:45 - Jul 24 by StokieBlue |
Context is important.
Big difference between rumours about transfers or formations and rumours about existing players allegedly refusing to work with the club in my opinion.
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The same was happening with Morsy in a thread yesterday. He's now branded, most likely, a troublemaker as his wife posted a farewell message to her Instagram profile!
The point I made in that thread is valid here too. There are too many people who see this kind of stuff on the forum and read it as fact. It then starts to create a rather distasteful undertone against that player, which seems to fester and grow. My example was Philogene, he is now disliked by a portion of our support due to nonsense posted about him not wanting to even be here, because it took 3 attempts to get him here, and even then, his signing was delayed. There are so many reasons why stuff like this can happen, and the reasons usually don't come to light. It matters not to some though, he will forever be seen as disinterested, and we should be looking to get rid already.
As you mentioned, it's fine to talk about rumours of transfers, injuries, formations, etc., but to spread potentially damaging rumours about our own players! Why would you want to do that without substantiation? At best, you've got in as the first to say it, I doubt that it will give you legendary status one here, regardless. At worst, you're creating negative feelings against one of our players for no particular reason at all, which we all know can escalate quickly and quite severely, in the current world of social media abuse. |  | | |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:06 - Jul 24 with 1845 views | billlm |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:39 - Jul 24 by RIPbobby |
As much as I want him to stay at Portman Road I can't complain if he has the chance to play world cup football next summer. Good luck. |
No chance of that especially if he goes to Brentford |  | | |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:09 - Jul 24 with 1768 views | chicoazul |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:18 - Jul 24 by Nutkins_Return |
Completely agree. He's now tarnished with this when it's almost certainly not true. He's going to want to train whatever so no chance this is true. The right thing to do would be to bin this thread. |
One of our current squad literally did the same thing to force a move here. It’s perfectly plausible. All the other u21s are back at their clubs. |  |
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:09 - Jul 24 with 1772 views | Matt_Netherlands |
Maybe he’s up at Woodbridge Town with our captain… |  | | |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:11 - Jul 24 with 1739 views | tonybied |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:03 - Jul 24 by tonybied |
The same was happening with Morsy in a thread yesterday. He's now branded, most likely, a troublemaker as his wife posted a farewell message to her Instagram profile!
The point I made in that thread is valid here too. There are too many people who see this kind of stuff on the forum and read it as fact. It then starts to create a rather distasteful undertone against that player, which seems to fester and grow. My example was Philogene, he is now disliked by a portion of our support due to nonsense posted about him not wanting to even be here, because it took 3 attempts to get him here, and even then, his signing was delayed. There are so many reasons why stuff like this can happen, and the reasons usually don't come to light. It matters not to some though, he will forever be seen as disinterested, and we should be looking to get rid already.
As you mentioned, it's fine to talk about rumours of transfers, injuries, formations, etc., but to spread potentially damaging rumours about our own players! Why would you want to do that without substantiation? At best, you've got in as the first to say it, I doubt that it will give you legendary status one here, regardless. At worst, you're creating negative feelings against one of our players for no particular reason at all, which we all know can escalate quickly and quite severely, in the current world of social media abuse. |
Didn't take long! Case in point:
Why is Hutchinson by boysof1981 24 Jul 11:02Refusing to train with, intact he’s refused to even turn up. Everything being done through his agent, he ain’t coming back.
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:12 - Jul 24 with 1710 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:03 - Jul 24 by tonybied |
The same was happening with Morsy in a thread yesterday. He's now branded, most likely, a troublemaker as his wife posted a farewell message to her Instagram profile!
The point I made in that thread is valid here too. There are too many people who see this kind of stuff on the forum and read it as fact. It then starts to create a rather distasteful undertone against that player, which seems to fester and grow. My example was Philogene, he is now disliked by a portion of our support due to nonsense posted about him not wanting to even be here, because it took 3 attempts to get him here, and even then, his signing was delayed. There are so many reasons why stuff like this can happen, and the reasons usually don't come to light. It matters not to some though, he will forever be seen as disinterested, and we should be looking to get rid already.
As you mentioned, it's fine to talk about rumours of transfers, injuries, formations, etc., but to spread potentially damaging rumours about our own players! Why would you want to do that without substantiation? At best, you've got in as the first to say it, I doubt that it will give you legendary status one here, regardless. At worst, you're creating negative feelings against one of our players for no particular reason at all, which we all know can escalate quickly and quite severely, in the current world of social media abuse. |
Some of the posters on here truly are very judgemental, and fickle - always seemingly looking for the next player to denigrate. The Philogene situation is an excellent example - many constantly putting him down, and calling for us to offload him at the first opportunity. | | | |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:14 - Jul 24 with 1659 views | RIPbobby |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:06 - Jul 24 by billlm |
No chance of that especially if he goes to Brentford |
Yes there are probably 16 better places he could have gone. But I suppose being in a poor prem team is better than being in a good champs team for the here and now. I think they will be relegation certs, especially if they lose Wissa too. Hence I spoke about buy back a week or so ago. | | | |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:15 - Jul 24 with 1619 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:11 - Jul 24 by tonybied |
Didn't take long! Case in point:
Why is Hutchinson by boysof1981 24 Jul 11:02Refusing to train with, intact he’s refused to even turn up. Everything being done through his agent, he ain’t coming back.
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He posts pretty poorly about players and the club on a regular basis to be fair. |  |
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| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:16 - Jul 24 with 1608 views | topguy |
Not an unexpected move players on long contracts has no other card to play so plays it, yes makes him look bad but he thinks it might get his move from it, well sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt, i remember Gnoto doing the same and didnt get the move and for weeks leeds players had dolls of him in a nappy but he didnt get a move and now hes still there, but he can also get one anyway time will tell. | | | |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 11:16 - Jul 24 with 1596 views | billlm |
| Heard rumours Hutch is refusing to train now on 10:42 - Jul 24 by Nutkins_Return |
I don't disagree with any of that. But the point remains it's just a rumour and the OP has no idea if true so why do this to the lad. |
My understanding is he's currently not handling things in the best way (from our perspective anyway). No idea as to the detail behind that but I'd assume one way or another that may be why he doesn't appear to have trained with us yet.
This was posted yesterday by someone, he post here a lot and is correct on a lot, | | | |
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