| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… 07:59 - Jul 27 with 55786 views | Kieran_Knows |
… £20m offer in to Middlesbrough for him and we are offering £35k a week to Hackney himself.
Edit - also mentions that whilst he is yet to be tempted by the offer as he wants a Prem move, but no Prem club is offering what we are in terms of fee and wages. [Post edited 27 Jul 8:06]
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| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 12:19 - Jul 29 with 4416 views | Big_Jase |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 12:14 - Jul 29 by ITFCkyle1878 |
Then forgive my lack of knowledge around this but are we saying it’s going to be done? |
Agent/Selling Club trying to drum up further interest.
Can’t blame the agent, he wouldn’t be doing his job if he wasn’t trying to get his client a EPL move. |  |
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| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 12:26 - Jul 29 with 4269 views | ITFCkyle1878 |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 12:19 - Jul 29 by PhilTWTD |
I suspect Boro are saying that privately to make it appear they're doing everything they can to hold onto him. |
Thank you Phil. Following on from you saying club side is basically done, we expecting problems with convincing Hackney himself or is that set to be straightforward? |  | | |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 12:52 - Jul 29 with 3901 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 12:26 - Jul 29 by ITFCkyle1878 |
Thank you Phil. Following on from you saying club side is basically done, we expecting problems with convincing Hackney himself or is that set to be straightforward? |
Seems it happens this week providing a late PL offer doesn't come in. Boro journos seem to be reporting where the deal was at a couple of weeks ago rather than where it is at now. On their forum a lot of them say Hackney will be holding out but that's exactly what he's been doing for a couple of weeks with no PL interest being firmed up into an acceptable bid.
Imagine we have issued a deadline ourselves now. If we have £20m to spend on a central midfielder (that we desperately need) then we aren't going to be willing to go late into the window chancing it, we will move on to another target.
Also sounds like Boro need a move done soon to get on with their transfer business. [Post edited 29 Jul 12:53]
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| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:33 - Jul 29 with 3542 views | Len_Brennan |
Isn't it a lovely, comforting feeling, when you come on here & read a post from Phil that is really positive about a link to a very good player? | | | |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 14:14 - Jul 29 with 3221 views | Keno |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:33 - Jul 29 by Len_Brennan |
Isn't it a lovely, comforting feeling, when you come on here & read a post from Phil that is really positive about a link to a very good player? |
are you sure that was Phil? maybe someone has hacked is account |  |
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| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 14:17 - Jul 29 with 3167 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:33 - Jul 29 by Len_Brennan |
Isn't it a lovely, comforting feeling, when you come on here & read a post from Phil that is really positive about a link to a very good player? |
Don’t let Phil see your post because he’ll only deny or deflate it |  |
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| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 17:25 - Jul 29 with 2434 views | Smoresy |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 11:13 - Jul 29 by Herbivore |
For sure we'll think he has Prem potential. I doubt we'd look at spending this much if we thought the Championship was his ceiling. Have to agree to disagree on the value of experience, whether it's the Championship or the Prem. English football is incredibly physical and fast paced so having a CM partnership with no previous minutes in English football would worry me. |
It certainly gives reassurance to fans and less robust recruitments teams. I don't think Ao Tanaka needed more than 10 mins to begin controlling the middle of the park last season and there are plenty of examples of players excelling in their first seasons in new countries. The player's ability and application are what's key imo and £22m should buy us the best in this league or very close to it. | | | |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 17:31 - Jul 29 with 2333 views | Smoresy |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 11:17 - Jul 29 by tonybied |
I said as much on here re. experience, in the lead up to last season. That didn't go so well, and many of our failings last season were down to players not being savvy enough.
How many times did we get turned over towards the end of games last year? Also, how many times did a team take the lead and then just suck all momentum out of a game? Our game management was rather woeful last year and definitely cost us a few points.
I have 100% changed my tone on how much experience plays a factor. |
The problem imo was recruiting lots of players who had mostly only performed or competed in leagues below the required level. They didn't have experience of or much success in the elite leagues. Had we plucked shrewd additions instead from.the Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and so on then things would hopefully have gone much better. That appears to represent the bulk of Leeds and Sunderland's recruitment this season so will be interesting to see how they get on. | | | |
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| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 17:33 - Jul 29 with 2306 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 17:25 - Jul 29 by Smoresy |
It certainly gives reassurance to fans and less robust recruitments teams. I don't think Ao Tanaka needed more than 10 mins to begin controlling the middle of the park last season and there are plenty of examples of players excelling in their first seasons in new countries. The player's ability and application are what's key imo and £22m should buy us the best in this league or very close to it. |
Did Tanaka come into a midfield that had no experience of English football though? I think that's the point that Herbs is making. Integrating one player is one thing, integrating an entire midfield is quite another | |
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| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 18:11 - Jul 29 with 2011 views | Smoresy |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 17:33 - Jul 29 by southnorfolkblue |
Did Tanaka come into a midfield that had no experience of English football though? I think that's the point that Herbs is making. Integrating one player is one thing, integrating an entire midfield is quite another |
See your point, I just believe it's overemphasized personally. From what I've heard Tanaka was the dominant man in that midfield from the off. Not sure who he was partnered with.
Hackney (hopefully) and Matusiwa will need to combine as players unknown to each other, and new to McKenna's systems of play. Hayden knowing the standard of the division is advantageous to his own confidence, no doubt, but more crucial is their ability to integrate within our setup, which is the common challenge for all new signings.
I believe smart players who are more talented and experienced than Championship level should find settling in to this league straightforward enough, and £22m should be enough to buy that. Don't mean to suggest that we're going in the wrong direction though - from the comments it sounds like he'd be a real coup. | | | |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 19:27 - Jul 29 with 1643 views | DarkBrandon |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 16:00 - Jul 28 by DarkBrandon |
Which clubs at this level are paying £8m for a 27 year old? |
It seems I was talking out of my arse |  | | |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 19:39 - Jul 29 with 1509 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 19:27 - Jul 29 by DarkBrandon |
It seems I was talking out of my arse |
That's another Guinness I am owed from TWTD. |  | | |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 19:42 - Jul 29 with 1454 views | ReusersTown |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 19:39 - Jul 29 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
That's another Guinness I am owed from TWTD. |
Don't know how/why some of our fans are always so desperate to downplay the quality and value of our players. I think it's the league one thing still. [Post edited 29 Jul 19:43]
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| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 19:45 - Jul 29 with 1403 views | DarkBrandon |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 19:42 - Jul 29 by ReusersTown |
Don't know how/why some of our fans are always so desperate to downplay the quality and value of our players. I think it's the league one thing still. [Post edited 29 Jul 19:43]
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I wasn’t thinking/sayjng that Broadhead is no good. He’s clearly a very good player.
I just didn’t imagine a side at our level would be paying £7m for one of our (with respect) squad players. He’s done well when he’s been in the first team, but he’s far from the first name on our team sheet. I just didn’t think 27 year old squad players with one year on their contract were worth nearly that much. | | | |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 19:51 - Jul 29 with 1278 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 19:45 - Jul 29 by DarkBrandon |
I wasn’t thinking/sayjng that Broadhead is no good. He’s clearly a very good player.
I just didn’t imagine a side at our level would be paying £7m for one of our (with respect) squad players. He’s done well when he’s been in the first team, but he’s far from the first name on our team sheet. I just didn’t think 27 year old squad players with one year on their contract were worth nearly that much. |
I am not quite sure why you are getting hung up on the 27 thing! | | | |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 19:56 - Jul 29 with 1206 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 19:42 - Jul 29 by ReusersTown |
Don't know how/why some of our fans are always so desperate to downplay the quality and value of our players. I think it's the league one thing still. [Post edited 29 Jul 19:43]
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I’m still recovering from predictions on here that we’d finish 11th in Mckennas second season in L1 and guesses that we’d spend £20m ish on players last summer. | | | |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 20:11 - Jul 29 with 1052 views | ReusersTown |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 19:45 - Jul 29 by DarkBrandon |
I wasn’t thinking/sayjng that Broadhead is no good. He’s clearly a very good player.
I just didn’t imagine a side at our level would be paying £7m for one of our (with respect) squad players. He’s done well when he’s been in the first team, but he’s far from the first name on our team sheet. I just didn’t think 27 year old squad players with one year on their contract were worth nearly that much. |
But he isn't just a 27 year old squad player is he? He's a player that scored 14 goals in a promotion season from this league one season ago as an attacking midfielder, and by devaluing him like that you basically are saying he's not particularly good. Do you think he's better or worse than Ogbene as a reference point for you. | | | |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 01:45 - Jul 30 with 438 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 16:10 - Jul 28 by Dubtractor |
There is no scenario where we get that sort of fee fir a player with 1 year left on his contract. |
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| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 04:22 - Jul 30 with 305 views | Vic |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 20:11 - Jul 29 by ReusersTown |
But he isn't just a 27 year old squad player is he? He's a player that scored 14 goals in a promotion season from this league one season ago as an attacking midfielder, and by devaluing him like that you basically are saying he's not particularly good. Do you think he's better or worse than Ogbene as a reference point for you. |
But that is what he has become over the last 14 months isnt it Which is a marker of just how far weve come in such a short time. |  |
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| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 05:47 - Jul 30 with 224 views | franz_tyson |
| Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 20:11 - Jul 29 by ReusersTown |
But he isn't just a 27 year old squad player is he? He's a player that scored 14 goals in a promotion season from this league one season ago as an attacking midfielder, and by devaluing him like that you basically are saying he's not particularly good. Do you think he's better or worse than Ogbene as a reference point for you. |
He hasn't been a regular in the side for the last 2 seasons... and that includes the Championship promotion season. He isn't going to be starting games this season, unless we have a real injury problem. He's also injury-prone. I'd say 7 million is a good price for someone we bought for 1.5 million 2.5 seasons ago.
If he wants to go for more game time.. its best we accept and take the money. | | | |
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