| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... 10:29 - Aug 4 with 3439 views | Bellevue_Blue |
I have full faith in KM & MA to execute the plan but it does worry me that both recent striker targets are last minute hijacks.
We must be someway down our list of targets to be reacting in the way we have or we didn't know they were available until they had interest which is a poor reflection on our scouting network.
Either way, hoping we can get them across the line! We need them. |  | | |  |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:30 - Aug 4 with 2293 views | J2BLUE |
It's almost like half the people on here are completely new to football. |  |
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| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:32 - Aug 4 with 2262 views | Guthrum |
Or we kept our powder dry and didn't strike until movement was underway. The latter having the implication that the parent club is committed to selling and the player to moving. Means less inertia to overcome, no need to entice away, just to make a better offer. |  |
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| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:35 - Aug 4 with 2186 views | mrshallisfit |
Desperation time. | | | |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:37 - Aug 4 with 2145 views | nrb1985 |
Must admit that was my first reaction too! Looks a bit scattergun now unless he was on our list all along but only now got an indication he was available and willing to join? Unlikely, not impossible.
Some people have been relentlessly negative on here over the last few days, which is tiresome, especially as we've had an excellent pre season.
However, I do think the transfer window probably hasn't gone how we or the club envisioned so far. Including losing more players from last year's squad than we/they would have liked. | | | |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:39 - Aug 4 with 2105 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:35 - Aug 4 by mrshallisfit |
Desperation time. |
With four week of the window left?
Yep, ‘desperation time’.
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| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:41 - Aug 4 with 2070 views | RegencyBlue |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:32 - Aug 4 by Guthrum |
Or we kept our powder dry and didn't strike until movement was underway. The latter having the implication that the parent club is committed to selling and the player to moving. Means less inertia to overcome, no need to entice away, just to make a better offer. |
You could be right although I have to admit my first thought was it is a panic move. |  | | |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:41 - Aug 4 with 2062 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:32 - Aug 4 by Guthrum |
Or we kept our powder dry and didn't strike until movement was underway. The latter having the implication that the parent club is committed to selling and the player to moving. Means less inertia to overcome, no need to entice away, just to make a better offer. |
I appreciate there are benefits to it but there are obvious concerns. We are now competing with at least two other clubs, it's 4 days before our first game etc etc
Both are clearly really really good players but in Akpom's case, putting in a bid on the day he's having a medical at another club does not suggest great process on the face of it.
There may well be more to it, I don't know but I can't recall us hijacking deals in this way since MA/ KM joined us. | | | |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:41 - Aug 4 with 2059 views | Vic |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:37 - Aug 4 by nrb1985 |
Must admit that was my first reaction too! Looks a bit scattergun now unless he was on our list all along but only now got an indication he was available and willing to join? Unlikely, not impossible.
Some people have been relentlessly negative on here over the last few days, which is tiresome, especially as we've had an excellent pre season.
However, I do think the transfer window probably hasn't gone how we or the club envisioned so far. Including losing more players from last year's squad than we/they would have liked. |
Truth is that we have no idea who is on our list - so it may be scattergun or it may not. Personally i very much doubt it is scattergun - we are just too professionally run for that to be the case. IMO! |  |
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| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:45 - Aug 4 with 1983 views | SomethingBlue |
Better to look at what's happening rather than the transfer-ese in which these things are described. It all feeds a lot of assumptions that don't really reflect the reality. | |
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| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:45 - Aug 4 with 1970 views | Horsham |
Why though? It’s just negotiation with the advantage of having seen your opponents hand? |  | | |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:46 - Aug 4 with 1964 views | waveneyblue |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:41 - Aug 4 by Vic |
Truth is that we have no idea who is on our list - so it may be scattergun or it may not. Personally i very much doubt it is scattergun - we are just too professionally run for that to be the case. IMO! |
No, our "fans" know better.
The whole thing is being made up as we go along and we are a shambles. |  | | |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:47 - Aug 4 with 1947 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:30 - Aug 4 by J2BLUE |
It's almost like half the people on here are completely new to football. |
What about that suggests I'm new to Football! haha
Give me another example of a time when we have gone in for a player the day they're having a medical for another club in the last 4 years.
I didn't suggest anything hugely negative, I just said it's worrying the way that both have come about.
We don't know everything of course but on the face of it, it seems strange. | | | |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:47 - Aug 4 with 1942 views | nrb1985 |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:41 - Aug 4 by Vic |
Truth is that we have no idea who is on our list - so it may be scattergun or it may not. Personally i very much doubt it is scattergun - we are just too professionally run for that to be the case. IMO! |
"We are just too professionally run for that to be the case"
Two words: Gassan and Ahadme
You are right though, nobody knows who's on what lists, but coming out of nowhere at the 11th hour doesn't immediately read as he's been a long term target. | | | |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:47 - Aug 4 with 1921 views | Guthrum |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:37 - Aug 4 by nrb1985 |
Must admit that was my first reaction too! Looks a bit scattergun now unless he was on our list all along but only now got an indication he was available and willing to join? Unlikely, not impossible.
Some people have been relentlessly negative on here over the last few days, which is tiresome, especially as we've had an excellent pre season.
However, I do think the transfer window probably hasn't gone how we or the club envisioned so far. Including losing more players from last year's squad than we/they would have liked. |
You say losing more players, but, excepting those on the released list, we have still only lost the expected Delap and two who were already not signing new contracts (Burgess and Tuanzebe). | |
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| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:48 - Aug 4 with 1903 views | urbanpenguin |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:47 - Aug 4 by Bellevue_Blue |
What about that suggests I'm new to Football! haha
Give me another example of a time when we have gone in for a player the day they're having a medical for another club in the last 4 years.
I didn't suggest anything hugely negative, I just said it's worrying the way that both have come about.
We don't know everything of course but on the face of it, it seems strange. |
We wouldn't know. It's only recently that every single suggestion, rumour, or fact is debated and recycled endlessly on social media and message boards. We simply would not know the dramas or stories behind successful or non-successful transfers over most of the past.
The discussion on here where people spiral off from guesswork as if we are in Prime Suspect and we can see all is astounding tbh. |  | | |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:50 - Aug 4 with 1865 views | nrb1985 |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:46 - Aug 4 by waveneyblue |
No, our "fans" know better.
The whole thing is being made up as we go along and we are a shambles. |
Gosh you really are patronising prig.
So sneery and condescending in almost every post towards other fans. | | | |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:51 - Aug 4 with 1855 views | baxterbasics |
All is fair in love, war, and transfer windows. |  |
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| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:52 - Aug 4 with 1816 views | NthQldITFC |
It's not worrying. We've tried for our ambitious targets, knowing that we have the player-attraction and buying power to take our B targets out from under the noses of our rivals if we don't quite pull off the big coup.
This is good, not bad. |  |
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| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:52 - Aug 4 with 1803 views | Wickets |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:39 - Aug 4 by Cheltenham_Blue |
With four week of the window left?
Yep, ‘desperation time’.
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Well you can mock as thats easy but its certainly not going to plan . |  | | |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:54 - Aug 4 with 1741 views | nrb1985 |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:47 - Aug 4 by Guthrum |
You say losing more players, but, excepting those on the released list, we have still only lost the expected Delap and two who were already not signing new contracts (Burgess and Tuanzebe). |
They were technically released but it was clear we made what we thought were good offers to Burgess and Axel to stay. And based on what KM said at end of season re Morsy and Morsy's own subsequent comments - it was also apparent (I thought) that he wasn't really expected to leave this summer either.
Add that to MA's EADT interview a month or so ago, where he emphasised the importance of keeping the squad together and retention, I would say, on the face of it, probably more have left than they ideally wanted.
Just my opinion though! [Post edited 4 Aug 10:56]
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| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:55 - Aug 4 with 1736 views | homer_123 |
Are we?
As i posted a few threads down. Akpom might not have been interested in a Champ move earlier in the window but as a Prem move becomes less likely he's now open to said move.
Does it matter 'when' our move is made? |  |
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| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:57 - Aug 4 with 1683 views | NthQldITFC |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:48 - Aug 4 by urbanpenguin |
We wouldn't know. It's only recently that every single suggestion, rumour, or fact is debated and recycled endlessly on social media and message boards. We simply would not know the dramas or stories behind successful or non-successful transfers over most of the past.
The discussion on here where people spiral off from guesswork as if we are in Prime Suspect and we can see all is astounding tbh. |
Very well put. | |
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| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:58 - Aug 4 with 1648 views | MattinLondon |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:47 - Aug 4 by nrb1985 |
"We are just too professionally run for that to be the case"
Two words: Gassan and Ahadme
You are right though, nobody knows who's on what lists, but coming out of nowhere at the 11th hour doesn't immediately read as he's been a long term target. |
Think you’re being quite disingenuous to everyone by using both Gassan and Ahadme in that context.
Both players were bought in to develop in the championship for a couple or so seasons. Promotion and high expectations of automatic promotion simply meant that Gassan couldn’t keep up with such development. Ahadme could still have a part to play this season. |  | | |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:59 - Aug 4 with 1632 views | J2BLUE |
| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 10:47 - Aug 4 by Bellevue_Blue |
What about that suggests I'm new to Football! haha
Give me another example of a time when we have gone in for a player the day they're having a medical for another club in the last 4 years.
I didn't suggest anything hugely negative, I just said it's worrying the way that both have come about.
We don't know everything of course but on the face of it, it seems strange. |
Some of the rubbish people are coming out with.
It's the same every year.
We have no idea the circumstances behind this deal. If no other club wanted him that would be more reason to be worried. | |
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| Worrying that we are 'hijacking' moves ... on 11:00 - Aug 4 with 1603 views | tractor_lady |
Didnt Birmingham hijak the move off Borough? Birmingham panic buying too then….. honestly some of the flouncing on here is beyond belief | | | |
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