| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated 07:26 - Aug 7 with 4562 views | textbackup |
To when we kick off vs Birmingham
189 days separates when I personally felt our fate was decided (loss at home to Southampton) and when we face Birmingham.
The entire footballing universe knew Delap would be sold, in fact sold so well he was talking to clubs while the season was in play, and went in the first transfer window.
I made a comment at the end of last season that I had this horrible feeling we’d start the season with a strike force of Hirst and AAH (was shot down for being negative, down voted, told that wouldn’t happen) yet here we are.
I’m Sure it’s been said many times on here (whilst I was in TWTD prison) but that situation is far from ideal and one that is really rather poor in terms of planning and recruitment, isn’t it?
I’m sure I’ll be told there are 3/4 weeks left of the window, that I’m moaning for the sake of moaning. But honestly, you need to question anyone that’s happy with the situation. We kick off the season tomorrow, not in 3/4 weeks… there are points at stake, and we aren’t giving our manager the tools he requires to have the best chance to get those, we’ve left it to chance.
There’s nothing we as fans can do but trust what the management team are doing, but in this particular situation I can’t help but feel really frustration that we are again looking at a squad lacking a striking option that we clearly need.
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| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:07 - Aug 7 with 673 views | Jon_456 |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 08:20 - Aug 7 by textbackup |
It’s really frustrating that you’ve chosen to take my post in that way, you’ve clearly not read any other replies I’ve put on this thread too.
Probably best we leave it there.
I hope you’re as excited for the season as I am, and hope you have a great night in Brum if you are attending. |
I share your frustration that we haven’t signed another striker yet, however you have labelled it as really bad planning and recruitment, implying the club are at fault.
If we’re still in this position come September then your point would be fair. If however we get to September with Cajuste, Akpom, Hackney and a decent back up striker, which is all still possible, then actually it’s been excellent planning and recruitment.
As has been mentioned by some already, I’m sure we could have easily had another striker through the door by now but the chances are they would have likely been the next AAH rather than the next Delap. Good signings take time. |  | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:09 - Aug 7 with 665 views | waveneyblue |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 08:29 - Aug 7 by nrb1985 |
He's an eejit mate, move on.
Totally unable to understand nuance in anything. |
Alright sweet cheeks.
Appreciate you have only just learnt to read or the person reading this to you cant read either.
But, I said i agreed in principal and it was the way it was worded against the club wasn't good.
Oh and as for the games in August not being important, theres a special prize for you if you can prove where I said those words.
Now stop being an eejit and move on |  | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:10 - Aug 7 with 661 views | textbackup |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 08:59 - Aug 7 by Swansea_Blue |
“horrible feeling we’d start the season with a strike force of Hirst and AAH”. You need to go and spend some time following other Championship clubs and then you’d realise how well off we are to have Hirst, Sammie, Clarke, Chappers, Philogene, Ogbene, etc. AAH is fine as a backup to Hirst too. |
No he isn’t. | |
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| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:10 - Aug 7 with 659 views | bsw72 |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:00 - Aug 7 by nrb1985 |
Hi - sorry, haven't judged the success of the season or otherwise.
All I've said is I would have preferred (as would the club from KM's own words) that we have a bit more on the bench going into two huge games at the beginning of the season?
Not sure why this is such a controversial view to some? KM himself has said there were more outgoings than he expected and that he'd obviously prefer more bodies in the building than we have currently.
Also, re Brum - where they are in the transfer window isn't really irrelevant to me feeling like we could have a stronger bench is it. [Post edited 7 Aug 9:08]
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I was voicing my view and opinion, is that not allowed, as I never said your view was wrong or that I disagreed so no need for the defensive and somewhat passive aggressive response.
It just happened to be a reply to you as I was curious as to why reference Sheff Utd and their 95pts specifically. |  | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:12 - Aug 7 with 637 views | Herbivore |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:10 - Aug 7 by bsw72 |
I was voicing my view and opinion, is that not allowed, as I never said your view was wrong or that I disagreed so no need for the defensive and somewhat passive aggressive response.
It just happened to be a reply to you as I was curious as to why reference Sheff Utd and their 95pts specifically. |
I think he's worried that if we lose to Brum and Saints, there's only another 132 points to play for. |  |
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| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:12 - Aug 7 with 643 views | bsw72 |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 08:55 - Aug 7 by FrimleyBlue |
It's a difficult discussion because for me you get caught between frustration and being patient.
I'm trying my absolutely best to be the latter and trust that nothing can be lost in the first month of the season.
But I do appreciate where many come from in regards to their thoughts about how little we've done in the window.
I once mentioned that managers get sacked for poor results. Yet ashton etc are seen to be trying their best, things are tough, it's not their fault. When do they become accountable for such a poor recruitment period?
Its not poor with the signings made but poor in timescale. Are they helping our manager or making his job harder. Are they too slow at moving onto other targets. Do we play hardball with to many clubs?
We don't know the answers to alot of questions. So I guess we can only sit and hope it all comes together. |
You’re forgetting how much effort has probably also gone in to retaining key members of the squad such as O’Shea, Davis etc.
It’s as much about retention as it is recruitment.
Edit: You may not be forgetting, that’s not for me to say but I reckon quite a few don’t appreciate it. [Post edited 7 Aug 9:15]
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| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:13 - Aug 7 with 624 views | waveneyblue |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 08:20 - Aug 7 by textbackup |
It’s really frustrating that you’ve chosen to take my post in that way, you’ve clearly not read any other replies I’ve put on this thread too.
Probably best we leave it there.
I hope you’re as excited for the season as I am, and hope you have a great night in Brum if you are attending. |
As i said, its great to have you back | | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:15 - Aug 7 with 606 views | Rozz |
Isn't every window after relegation from the Premier League likely to feel like a net loss in quality? Simple facts are that we lose revenue, the players of highest quality leave, and they're replaced with ones that reflect the budget.
"I made a comment at the end of last season that I had this horrible feeling we’d start the season with a strike force of Hirst and AAH (was shot down for being negative, down voted, told that wouldn’t happen) yet here we are."
This somewhat glosses over the fact that it's overwhelmingly likely to only be the case for one league game. We're about to sign a striker who scored 28 goals in the last season he was in the Championship (top scorer, player of the year, players' player of the year).
With Akpom signing, we're in a perfectly acceptable place for this point in the window in that position IMO. |  | | |
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| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:16 - Aug 7 with 604 views | Stadiumofdark |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 08:59 - Aug 7 by Swansea_Blue |
“horrible feeling we’d start the season with a strike force of Hirst and AAH”. You need to go and spend some time following other Championship clubs and then you’d realise how well off we are to have Hirst, Sammie, Clarke, Chappers, Philogene, Ogbene, etc. AAH is fine as a backup to Hirst too. |
He really isn't. |  | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:27 - Aug 7 with 572 views | nrb1985 |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:09 - Aug 7 by waveneyblue |
Alright sweet cheeks.
Appreciate you have only just learnt to read or the person reading this to you cant read either.
But, I said i agreed in principal and it was the way it was worded against the club wasn't good.
Oh and as for the games in August not being important, theres a special prize for you if you can prove where I said those words.
Now stop being an eejit and move on |
Sweet cheeks is at least an upgrade on a "sO CALleD faN".
With respect lad, three people now have called you condescending.
And re my levels of literacy - Waveney should start with a capital W, it's the name of a place. However, you are right on the border up there, so I'll cut you some slack as the additional fingers must make typing a challenge. | | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:43 - Aug 7 with 529 views | Guthrum |
Broadly agree with the sentiment, but - that's just not really the way football works. Look at previous windows stretching back many years. Wealthier and more prestigeous clubs than Town are wrestling with the same issue this summer.
There are two main elements to the issue.
Firstly, we are not looking to hire any old striker, but one who is of equal or better quality than what we have (previous underwhelming additions are still grumbled about). Who also fits our style of play (not Pitman in a team requiring the CF to drop deep for the ball). Whose character matches the club's desired image (McSomebody-or-other a few days ago nobody wanted us to sign). Who is not so young, raw or never-played-at-anything-like-this-level that they are a massive gamble or require loads of development before being ready. Or is so ancient they are slow and keep getting injured.
There ain't many good strikers in the first place, even before limiting the pool like that. Maybe a few dozen worldwide, once the filter is applied. Then availability has to be considered (of which more in the second point). You could run through a list like that quite quickly and come up with no joy.
Secondly, we are not dealing with items, but people - both the players and those running the clubs. Managers and owners naturally do not want their best players to leave. They will fight tooth, nail and wallet to prevent it. Footballers may not want to leave where they are now, maybe having to move countries. They may have their own prejudices and desires about where and at what level they want to play. Money is not always going to overcome that psychology. Some clubs will just refuse to sell. Some players refuse to sign (Hackney, Azon).
There are myths that hidden (but identifiable) gems are always waiting to be discovered, or that just offering more money overcomes anything.
No amount of time or planning is going to negate those obstructions. Even money and status may not be enough to break them down. That's just how things are and have always been since the transfer window circus picked up steam. |  |
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| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:49 - Aug 7 with 506 views | J2BLUE |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 07:32 - Aug 7 by Kieran_Knows |
100% agree with the ‘season starts tomorrow, not 3-4 weeks times’ comment. Always irk me when people use deadline day as the barometer for our business. As you say, points at stake and 3-4 weeks time we could already be playing catch up, and even possibly losing out on targets because of it.
Of course, as McKenna has alluded to many times, we’d want the bulk of the squad in before the first game, but as you say, we’ve had so much time to rectify this. It also brings the old age question ‘should the window shut before the first game’, and I do think there is a lot of relevance to that. |
If we're bringing someone in on a four year deal it needs to be the right player.
We can't lower the standards just to get deals done to have someone in for 1-2 extra games.
So many deals depend on other deals and all sorts of factors. If we could have got the business done we would have. Really not sure what you think we could do differently? |  |
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| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 10:03 - Aug 7 with 479 views | Smoresy |
Instinctively, the problem isn't that the club are relaxed about this. They'll be more fixated than those who've spent the past month refreshing this site every ten minutes, and again when the midnight pee calls.
But I don't see anything unhealthy in voicing your frustration. McKenna feels it just as keenly: "In some areas we’re stronger, in some areas at the moment we’re really, really short for where we want to be". He couldn't have placed more emphasis on the situation unless he said "really, really, really short".
Why we're here again, I don't know if we've been guilty of too much ambition. I think there's something to be said for a mismatch between our valid requirements and our pulling power. A good Championship striker would improve the squad today but would be a dead weight in a year, if the plan goes well. Kieffer Moore, for instance, doesn't get us any closer to PL ready. Do we give up on that objective with a month left in the window?
Is our scouting department identifying fewer candidates than it should be? I just did something silly - went to the EA Sports FC 25 website, striker player search, applied one filter: playing style "relentless", and it generated 35 results. One of those, halfway down the list: Iván Azón. I assume our net is cast wider and more robustly than that lol! Is the problem rather that there are only a hundred strikers in the world who would give us what we want? There are over 50 clubs above us in the world hierarchy and they mostly want 2-4 good strikers.
Lastly, it's plausible the club considers Al-Hamadi to meet the level of middling strikers in this division, and with attributes more suited to KM's playing style. I bring up his report for his loan period at Stoke: he was in the 90-100th percentile for his defensive work, for successful take-ons, for progressive carries and carries into the penalty area. He had a higher success rate for taking on a defender than Omari did in the Championship. I don't wish to pretend he's our future but I'm also not convinced the team would be improved by 20 minutes of Sinclair Armstrong or Carlton Morris (players we could acquire inside 4 days, I'd guess, even with our paperwork team). | | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 10:15 - Aug 7 with 453 views | textbackup |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 10:03 - Aug 7 by Smoresy |
Instinctively, the problem isn't that the club are relaxed about this. They'll be more fixated than those who've spent the past month refreshing this site every ten minutes, and again when the midnight pee calls.
But I don't see anything unhealthy in voicing your frustration. McKenna feels it just as keenly: "In some areas we’re stronger, in some areas at the moment we’re really, really short for where we want to be". He couldn't have placed more emphasis on the situation unless he said "really, really, really short".
Why we're here again, I don't know if we've been guilty of too much ambition. I think there's something to be said for a mismatch between our valid requirements and our pulling power. A good Championship striker would improve the squad today but would be a dead weight in a year, if the plan goes well. Kieffer Moore, for instance, doesn't get us any closer to PL ready. Do we give up on that objective with a month left in the window?
Is our scouting department identifying fewer candidates than it should be? I just did something silly - went to the EA Sports FC 25 website, striker player search, applied one filter: playing style "relentless", and it generated 35 results. One of those, halfway down the list: Iván Azón. I assume our net is cast wider and more robustly than that lol! Is the problem rather that there are only a hundred strikers in the world who would give us what we want? There are over 50 clubs above us in the world hierarchy and they mostly want 2-4 good strikers.
Lastly, it's plausible the club considers Al-Hamadi to meet the level of middling strikers in this division, and with attributes more suited to KM's playing style. I bring up his report for his loan period at Stoke: he was in the 90-100th percentile for his defensive work, for successful take-ons, for progressive carries and carries into the penalty area. He had a higher success rate for taking on a defender than Omari did in the Championship. I don't wish to pretend he's our future but I'm also not convinced the team would be improved by 20 minutes of Sinclair Armstrong or Carlton Morris (players we could acquire inside 4 days, I'd guess, even with our paperwork team). |
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| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 10:23 - Aug 7 with 431 views | bazza |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 07:37 - Aug 7 by textbackup |
I know it’s a different kettle of fish, but I saw a piece on Liverpool the other day, Slot saying how important it was he had his squad in place ready to work them in pre season. To me that’s the most obvious way to plan and be ready.
I won’t for a moment pretend to know how hard deals are to finalise etc, but Dutch matey seemed to sail through, surely it can’t just be strikers that we want that seem near on impossible to get done?! |
Been a super frustrating summer with transfers, but if Ali is our second choice striker or 3rd.. let’s give him our full support. Scored a few pre season, let’s hope his confidence is up, and that he’s up for the challenge if he does play a part This season. |  | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 10:42 - Aug 7 with 388 views | nrb1985 |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:10 - Aug 7 by bsw72 |
I was voicing my view and opinion, is that not allowed, as I never said your view was wrong or that I disagreed so no need for the defensive and somewhat passive aggressive response.
It just happened to be a reply to you as I was curious as to why reference Sheff Utd and their 95pts specifically. |
Sorry, didn't mean it to come across like that if it did.
I was just merely retorting that I haven't judged the season or otherwise - just that, I think by most people's admission, going into games against likely promotion rivals we would ideally want to have more coming off the bench.
That said, I have an open mind with AAH and he's looked very sharp in pre season.
So maybe he'll come off the bench to get the winner and I'll enjoy some humble pie for dinner tomorrow.
Ps re Sheff Utd, they like Leeds the year before, missed out on automatics with near record points tally, so in my view, the trend is moving towards higher points required for top two. | | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 12:05 - Aug 7 with 304 views | waveneyblue |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:27 - Aug 7 by nrb1985 |
Sweet cheeks is at least an upgrade on a "sO CALleD faN".
With respect lad, three people now have called you condescending.
And re my levels of literacy - Waveney should start with a capital W, it's the name of a place. However, you are right on the border up there, so I'll cut you some slack as the additional fingers must make typing a challenge. |
Aw how sweet, your chum Texters gave you an uppie, probably not for the first time.
Cheers for your reply "lad," x | | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 12:24 - Aug 7 with 282 views | nrb1985 |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 12:05 - Aug 7 by waveneyblue |
Aw how sweet, your chum Texters gave you an uppie, probably not for the first time.
Cheers for your reply "lad," x |
Bloody texters - another so called "fan" disagreeing with your view point. GRRRRR.
Also, why are you singling Texters out?
Loads of other of our "s0 c@LLED FaNs" gave me uppies for calling you a condescending prig the other day.
Why don't they get a share of the spoils? [Post edited 7 Aug 12:27]
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| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 12:35 - Aug 7 with 243 views | Benters |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 09:12 - Aug 7 by Herbivore |
I think he's worried that if we lose to Brum and Saints, there's only another 132 points to play for. |
That is quite funny 😂👍 |  |
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| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 12:48 - Aug 7 with 221 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It’s baffling to me, when you consider KM, it worries me that stuff like this will also have an impact on any future big decisions he has to make in-season and next summer as well.
We were promoted 14 months ago, we should have things sorted behind the scenes now, really hope it’s not a case of individuals wanting too much control or what not. Can’t imagine with the money and our ownership they wouldn’t have said do whatever it takes to get up to speed and teams in place for recruitment, scouting etc.
Every deal seems painful as well.
Working hard doesn’t really cut it, we pretty have the most financial clout in the league. We all know how important the start of the season is, especially after the way last year ended.
Again September 1st we can assess but no chance this has gone to plan IMO.
I know both these deals will be/are done and announced but talking about the overall picture of things, I’m not sure people on here are really acknowledging our position of strength in this league from a transfer standpoint, or are choosing not to. |  | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 12:50 - Aug 7 with 208 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 07:52 - Aug 7 by NthQldITFC |
I agree that the transfer window should align (or at least be much closer to the start of the season) but given that it doesn't and given that we will have almost certainly the most power to mop up once the PL wannabes have taken their pick, I think it's better that we don't commit ourselves too early.
Given that we all pretty much agree that we have a very strong side in most positions, we can cope with the first month or so assuming we don't get a horrendous injury run, and we don't want to be saddled with an expensive non-optimal player if we could have picked up our A or B targets in the coming weeks. |
I agree that the transfer window should align (or at least be much closer to the start of the season)
Well, arguable it does with many leagues - several European leagues don't kick off until late in August. You'd probably need to align the leagues, in Europe at least, for this to happen.
I don't disagree that it would be good if the transfer window and season start aligned, but aligned with which? The Championship is so much earlier than much of Europe, and L1/2 even worse.
It's not going to happen anytime soon, so we need to learn to live with it. | | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 12:52 - Aug 7 with 204 views | Herbivore |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 12:48 - Aug 7 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It’s baffling to me, when you consider KM, it worries me that stuff like this will also have an impact on any future big decisions he has to make in-season and next summer as well.
We were promoted 14 months ago, we should have things sorted behind the scenes now, really hope it’s not a case of individuals wanting too much control or what not. Can’t imagine with the money and our ownership they wouldn’t have said do whatever it takes to get up to speed and teams in place for recruitment, scouting etc.
Every deal seems painful as well.
Working hard doesn’t really cut it, we pretty have the most financial clout in the league. We all know how important the start of the season is, especially after the way last year ended.
Again September 1st we can assess but no chance this has gone to plan IMO.
I know both these deals will be/are done and announced but talking about the overall picture of things, I’m not sure people on here are really acknowledging our position of strength in this league from a transfer standpoint, or are choosing not to. |
You can have a massive financial advantage but you still have to find the right players, their club has to be prepared to agree a deal that works for us, and the player has to be persuaded to join. There's a lot of moving parts, particulalry for the sort of players we're after. It's not like we're seeing loads of deals happening where we're left thinking "I wish we'd been in for him". We'd all have loved to got more business done by now, I'm not sure what you think the club should have done to make sure that the right business had all been done by now. | |
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| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 13:02 - Aug 7 with 181 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 12:48 - Aug 7 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It’s baffling to me, when you consider KM, it worries me that stuff like this will also have an impact on any future big decisions he has to make in-season and next summer as well.
We were promoted 14 months ago, we should have things sorted behind the scenes now, really hope it’s not a case of individuals wanting too much control or what not. Can’t imagine with the money and our ownership they wouldn’t have said do whatever it takes to get up to speed and teams in place for recruitment, scouting etc.
Every deal seems painful as well.
Working hard doesn’t really cut it, we pretty have the most financial clout in the league. We all know how important the start of the season is, especially after the way last year ended.
Again September 1st we can assess but no chance this has gone to plan IMO.
I know both these deals will be/are done and announced but talking about the overall picture of things, I’m not sure people on here are really acknowledging our position of strength in this league from a transfer standpoint, or are choosing not to. |
... we pretty have the most financial clout in the league...
This is true, but does it help in any way? We're not looking to recruit the same players as most of the Championship is - we're a level beyond that. I posted in another thread, has anyone looked at the list of recruits into Championship clubs (so the players who have agreed to move to a Championship side) and identified players that would have improved our starting 11?
Of nearly 150, there are MAYBE a couple - and even with those, I think we're looking at better options. We're looking elsewhere, often the same players PL clubs may consider, and it's much tougher - and dependent on the PL clubs completing their business.
This list is a couple of days out of date :
Birmingham City
Kyogo Furuhashi
Taylor Gardner-Hickman
Kanya Fujimoto
Demarai Gray
Phil Neumann
Bright Osayi-Samuel
Alfons Sampsted
James Beadle
Eiran Cashin
Tommy Doyle
Blackburn Rovers
Sidney Tavares
Dion De Neve
Ryan Alebiosu
Sean McLoughlin
Bristol City
Joe Lumley
Emil Riis
Yu Hirakawa
Adam Randell
Radek Vitek
Charlton Athletic
Charlie Kelman
Rob Apter
Tanto Olaofe
Thomas Kaminski
Joe Rankin-Costello
Amari'i Bell
Sonny Carey
Harvey Knibbs
Reece Burke
Coventry City
Kaine Kesler-Hayden
Miguel Ángel Brau
Carl Rushworth
Derby County
Patrick Agyemang
Richard O'Donnell
Andreas Weimann
Danny Batth
Rhian Brewster
Carlton Morris
Owen Beck
David Ozoh
Hull City
Gustavo Puerta
Reda Laalaoui
Enis Destan
Akin Famewo
Semi Ajayi
Dillon Phillips
John Lundstram
Joel Ndala
Ipswich Town
Azor Matusiwa
Ashley Young
David Button
Cédric Kipré
Leicester City
Asmir Begovic
Middlesbrough FC
Abdoulaye Kanté
Alfie Jones
Millwall FC
Josh Coburn
Massimo Luongo
Max Crocombe
Alfie Doughty
Zak Sturge
Steven Benda
Norwich City
Mathias Kvistgaarden
Papa Amadou Diallo
Jacob Wright
Vladan Kovačević
Jakov Medic
Jeffrey Schlupp
Harry Darling
Louie Moulden
Daniel Grimshaw
Oxford United
Brian De Keersmaecker
Brodie Spencer
Luke Harris
Nik Prelec
Portsmouth
Mark Kosznovszky
John Swift
Luke Le Roux
Adrian Segecic
Florian Bianchini
Preston North End
Odeluga Offiah
Andrija Vukcevic
Michael Smith
Jordan Thompson
Daniel Iversen
Pol Valentin
Thierry Small
Jack Walton
Daniel Jebbison
Queens Park Rangers
Rumarn Burrell
Kealey Adamson
Amadou Salif Mbengue
Kwame Poku
Karamoko Dembélé
Sheffield United
Ehije Ukaki
Mihail Polendakov
Tyler Bindon
Louie Barry
Sheffield Wednesday
Southampton FC
Damion Downs
Joshua Quarshie
Stoke City
Maksym Taloverov
Aaron Cresswell
Sorba Thomas
Robert Bozenik
Divin Mubama
Swansea City
Zeidane Inoussa
Ethan Galbraith
Bobby Wales
Cameron Burgess
Ricardo Santos
Watford FC
Nestory Irankunda
Othmane Maamma
Marc Bola
Nathan Baxter
Hector Kyprianou
Vivaldo Semedo
Luca Kjerrumgaard
West Bromwich Albion
Aune Heggebø
Nat Phillips
George Campbell
Wrexham
Lewis O'Brien
Liberato Cacace
Conor Coady
George Thomason
Ryan Hardie
Josh Windass
Danny Ward | | | |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 13:05 - Aug 7 with 161 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| 105 days separates when we were officially relegated on 12:52 - Aug 7 by Herbivore |
You can have a massive financial advantage but you still have to find the right players, their club has to be prepared to agree a deal that works for us, and the player has to be persuaded to join. There's a lot of moving parts, particulalry for the sort of players we're after. It's not like we're seeing loads of deals happening where we're left thinking "I wish we'd been in for him". We'd all have loved to got more business done by now, I'm not sure what you think the club should have done to make sure that the right business had all been done by now. |
Who knows what is actually going on behind the scenes, we’d both be speculating whatever our opinions are on the matter. In previous years I believe most parachute clubs spent north of 30M on incoming fees, I guess I’d have to go back and see when those deals were actually done.
I’m just talking honestly from what I’ve seen this summer and last, I just get a feeling not enough has been done there and a few panicked and a bit chaotic.
Starting the season with Jack Taylor in the 8 and Ali off the bench concerns me that we aren’t anywhere where we need to be in staffing departments. I’d love to know if Akpom truly was on our list 5-6 or even 2 months ago as well.
We keep hearing how it’s unfair for parachute clubs these days but then people on here keep saying we are fine because of last years deals. KM has said he has lost more than he liked and we aren’t where we need to be in multiple areas of the pitch.
There’s three weeks left. Let’s see. | | | |
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Who knows what is actually going on behind the scenes, we’d both be speculating whatever our opinions are on the matter. In previous years I believe most parachute clubs spent north of 30M on incoming fees, I guess I’d have to go back and see when those deals were actually done.
I’m just talking honestly from what I’ve seen this summer and last, I just get a feeling not enough has been done there and a few panicked and a bit chaotic.
Starting the season with Jack Taylor in the 8 and Ali off the bench concerns me that we aren’t anywhere where we need to be in staffing departments. I’d love to know if Akpom truly was on our list 5-6 or even 2 months ago as well.
We keep hearing how it’s unfair for parachute clubs these days but then people on here keep saying we are fine because of last years deals. KM has said he has lost more than he liked and we aren’t where we need to be in multiple areas of the pitch.
There’s three weeks left. Let’s see. |
The level we are trying to recruit at, it is very likely our top targets aren't available until later in the window once clubs further up the chain have done their business or got their houses in order. Signing later on doesn't necessarily mean you are working down a list and when you can sign players isn't always in your control no matter what financial resources you have.
For reference, Burnley signed 9 players in the last week of the window last season. | | | |
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