| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... 11:34 - Aug 20 with 2209 views | pointofblue |
It seems really quiet on here. It doesn't feel like the season has started and the club is obviously active in the transfer market. Very odd feeling all over. |  |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 11:37 - Aug 20 with 1837 views | NedPlimpton |
Not sure about how anyone else feels, but it's almost like the football is now just a sideshow to the transfer market
God I miss the days of being able to sign players whenever and not having transfer windows |  | | |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 11:45 - Aug 20 with 1760 views | FrimleyBlue |
I personally miss the days where the local journos could announce a link that we could actively discuss rather than these x rumours by accounts with 50 followers. |  |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 11:47 - Aug 20 with 1755 views | pointofblue |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 11:37 - Aug 20 by NedPlimpton |
Not sure about how anyone else feels, but it's almost like the football is now just a sideshow to the transfer market
God I miss the days of being able to sign players whenever and not having transfer windows |
It didn't feel such a thing when transfers were allowed up to March. But it did result in sides losing top players at any time during the season. At least now, it's locked into two windows. I just wish the summer window closed at the end of July, but I know European clubs will never go for that. | |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 11:49 - Aug 20 with 1739 views | bsw72 |
I think a lot of the regular (including sensible/extreme/semi crazed) posters are just bored with the same nonsensical clickbait posted day in day out.
Most of us with any common sense , understanding of football and awareness of where we are as a club sit, know that there is some work to do, but that competition for those players is high so we may not get all we want.
As I see it, would be good to add the right players to strengthen the squad / add depth, but not to panic buy and in parallel work with the current (quite talented) squad to settle them down and build on the solid if unspectacular start.
What it does validate to me is that there are a huge amount of gullible idiots who seem to get suckered in when ITFC is mentioned on X or other web forums - if it helps, I can send them some links as I know a Nigerian prince who is looking to move some funds into a UK account but is having problems getting one setup . . . |  | | |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:01 - Aug 20 with 1619 views | waveneyblue |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 11:49 - Aug 20 by bsw72 |
I think a lot of the regular (including sensible/extreme/semi crazed) posters are just bored with the same nonsensical clickbait posted day in day out.
Most of us with any common sense , understanding of football and awareness of where we are as a club sit, know that there is some work to do, but that competition for those players is high so we may not get all we want.
As I see it, would be good to add the right players to strengthen the squad / add depth, but not to panic buy and in parallel work with the current (quite talented) squad to settle them down and build on the solid if unspectacular start.
What it does validate to me is that there are a huge amount of gullible idiots who seem to get suckered in when ITFC is mentioned on X or other web forums - if it helps, I can send them some links as I know a Nigerian prince who is looking to move some funds into a UK account but is having problems getting one setup . . . |
Absolutely this.... |  | | |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:09 - Aug 20 with 1566 views | PioneerBlue |
The fact that the football has started and the only topic in town is the transfer market is sad as a fan. It should all be done and dusted before the season but we know it won’t and that football media love the hype.
The stretched duration of the window means it all looses sparkle for many fans too. | |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:12 - Aug 20 with 1528 views | SitfcB |
Absolutely bored with all the transfer shít, just want the window to close.
All this is he coming is he going with every single player is very annoying and seems to be heightened this summer with every deal taking ages to get through because of the constant news supply. |  |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:14 - Aug 20 with 1509 views | BseaBlue |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 11:37 - Aug 20 by NedPlimpton |
Not sure about how anyone else feels, but it's almost like the football is now just a sideshow to the transfer market
God I miss the days of being able to sign players whenever and not having transfer windows |
It was put in place to try and protect clubs but all it really has achieved is over inflated transfer fees! |  | | |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:17 - Aug 20 with 1502 views | Illinoisblue |
I think it’s a combination of three things:
Hangover from last season. It’s not fun getting slapped and beaten every week. Damages the mind and the soul.
Dismantling of heroes. We know we have to rebuild and go again but piece by piece we’ve lost what made us so great over the two promotion seasons. Compounded by losing the players who had songs to sing.
Fatigue from 24/7 transfer speculation. The endless barrage of rumours and links and the recycling of those links and on it goes… it’s exhausting. |  |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:17 - Aug 20 with 1493 views | bsw72 |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 11:47 - Aug 20 by pointofblue |
It didn't feel such a thing when transfers were allowed up to March. But it did result in sides losing top players at any time during the season. At least now, it's locked into two windows. I just wish the summer window closed at the end of July, but I know European clubs will never go for that. |
I think if the FA put their foot down and said no purchases after end July, FIFA/UEFA would crumble and give in.
Premier league spend this summer is at £2.2BN, while sales at at £1.2BN - without this £1BN net outgoing spend there would be limited movement across rest of top european leagues . . . [Post edited 20 Aug 12:19]
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:33 - Aug 20 with 1388 views | Benters |
Well you have a couple of returning posters who are on probation,and the season hasn’t started off as well as we thought it would,if we are being honest about it.
Get the first win and everyone will chill,I don’t think it helps being favourites to bounce straight back either.
That’s my take on it anyway. |  |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:50 - Aug 20 with 1298 views | jasondozzell |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 11:49 - Aug 20 by bsw72 |
I think a lot of the regular (including sensible/extreme/semi crazed) posters are just bored with the same nonsensical clickbait posted day in day out.
Most of us with any common sense , understanding of football and awareness of where we are as a club sit, know that there is some work to do, but that competition for those players is high so we may not get all we want.
As I see it, would be good to add the right players to strengthen the squad / add depth, but not to panic buy and in parallel work with the current (quite talented) squad to settle them down and build on the solid if unspectacular start.
What it does validate to me is that there are a huge amount of gullible idiots who seem to get suckered in when ITFC is mentioned on X or other web forums - if it helps, I can send them some links as I know a Nigerian prince who is looking to move some funds into a UK account but is having problems getting one setup . . . |
Well said. Completely agree.
I also think part of the problem is the slightly distasteful way the window is now treated. Perhaps part of a wider cultural thing.
I understand the excitement of being linked with players and we all like a good transfer story but there's a strange undercurrent at the moment with fans, particularly those on social media, behaving like spoilt children. Like a toy a child tires of, they seem to be chasing the next 'rush' and when it doesn't come or isn't the fantasy football type approach they expect, they throw their toys out of the pram. A big part of that is attention seeking.
It's a world where football is relegated to second best and spending money and amassing names is considered more important.
At the risk of sounding pretentious I think it's just more late stage capitalism. The football version. Ultimately consumption doesn't make us happy! A 10 million pound ex Ajax midfielder? Bored, onto the next one! A returning proven player with champions League experience at Napoli? Whatever, I want more...A championship golden boot winner... Fine but why aren't we spending 25 million on a bigger name?
It's sort of infantile and childish. Maybe I'm being unfair but feels like the fans who returned after success just want everything their way all the time. But that's not what supporting a football team is, is it.
Blokes next to me exited on the final whistle on Sunday shaking their heads and with thunderous looks. Bizarre! |  | | |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:55 - Aug 20 with 1235 views | FrimleyBlue |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:50 - Aug 20 by jasondozzell |
Well said. Completely agree.
I also think part of the problem is the slightly distasteful way the window is now treated. Perhaps part of a wider cultural thing.
I understand the excitement of being linked with players and we all like a good transfer story but there's a strange undercurrent at the moment with fans, particularly those on social media, behaving like spoilt children. Like a toy a child tires of, they seem to be chasing the next 'rush' and when it doesn't come or isn't the fantasy football type approach they expect, they throw their toys out of the pram. A big part of that is attention seeking.
It's a world where football is relegated to second best and spending money and amassing names is considered more important.
At the risk of sounding pretentious I think it's just more late stage capitalism. The football version. Ultimately consumption doesn't make us happy! A 10 million pound ex Ajax midfielder? Bored, onto the next one! A returning proven player with champions League experience at Napoli? Whatever, I want more...A championship golden boot winner... Fine but why aren't we spending 25 million on a bigger name?
It's sort of infantile and childish. Maybe I'm being unfair but feels like the fans who returned after success just want everything their way all the time. But that's not what supporting a football team is, is it.
Blokes next to me exited on the final whistle on Sunday shaking their heads and with thunderous looks. Bizarre! |
Get what you're saying but on your player points
Cajuste etc are great signings. Don't think anyone has said otherwise but we do need more cms.
Akpom. Was a golden boot winner a few years ago. He may be good enough again no one has really said much about him but we still do need another striker.
I've not really seen much anti signing posts. Just more about the requirement of actually needing further bodies. Fees etc haven't really been discussed as an issue. | |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 13:02 - Aug 20 with 1185 views | blueasfook |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:33 - Aug 20 by Benters |
Well you have a couple of returning posters who are on probation,and the season hasn’t started off as well as we thought it would,if we are being honest about it.
Get the first win and everyone will chill,I don’t think it helps being favourites to bounce straight back either.
That’s my take on it anyway. |
Out of curiosity... how long is the twtd probationary period? Do you have to have a meeting with Phil once a week where he reviews your posts and lets you know how you're doing? And then at the end of it, he PMs you and lets you know you've passed and are now a permanent member of the board? So you can then join the twtd pension scheme |  |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 13:04 - Aug 20 with 1165 views | SE1blue |
I wonder if part of it is how much football is now constantly in our faces.
We don’t have a whole summer off football any more, there’s always something on TV or happening, even in June and July. You can easily watch our pre-season games now too. We’re not starved of football come the start of the season - that has certainly lessened by anticipation and clamber for all things Ipswich. |  |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 13:05 - Aug 20 with 1153 views | waveneyblue |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:50 - Aug 20 by jasondozzell |
Well said. Completely agree.
I also think part of the problem is the slightly distasteful way the window is now treated. Perhaps part of a wider cultural thing.
I understand the excitement of being linked with players and we all like a good transfer story but there's a strange undercurrent at the moment with fans, particularly those on social media, behaving like spoilt children. Like a toy a child tires of, they seem to be chasing the next 'rush' and when it doesn't come or isn't the fantasy football type approach they expect, they throw their toys out of the pram. A big part of that is attention seeking.
It's a world where football is relegated to second best and spending money and amassing names is considered more important.
At the risk of sounding pretentious I think it's just more late stage capitalism. The football version. Ultimately consumption doesn't make us happy! A 10 million pound ex Ajax midfielder? Bored, onto the next one! A returning proven player with champions League experience at Napoli? Whatever, I want more...A championship golden boot winner... Fine but why aren't we spending 25 million on a bigger name?
It's sort of infantile and childish. Maybe I'm being unfair but feels like the fans who returned after success just want everything their way all the time. But that's not what supporting a football team is, is it.
Blokes next to me exited on the final whistle on Sunday shaking their heads and with thunderous looks. Bizarre! |
I would give this two uppies if I could.
Absolutely spot on.
Especially the bit about fans returning after success or dare I say it, grown adults who are now throwing a tantrum because the success hasn't continued. There's a few of them on here | | | |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 13:05 - Aug 20 with 1148 views | baxterbasics |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 11:49 - Aug 20 by bsw72 |
I think a lot of the regular (including sensible/extreme/semi crazed) posters are just bored with the same nonsensical clickbait posted day in day out.
Most of us with any common sense , understanding of football and awareness of where we are as a club sit, know that there is some work to do, but that competition for those players is high so we may not get all we want.
As I see it, would be good to add the right players to strengthen the squad / add depth, but not to panic buy and in parallel work with the current (quite talented) squad to settle them down and build on the solid if unspectacular start.
What it does validate to me is that there are a huge amount of gullible idiots who seem to get suckered in when ITFC is mentioned on X or other web forums - if it helps, I can send them some links as I know a Nigerian prince who is looking to move some funds into a UK account but is having problems getting one setup . . . |
I do agree that the squad we have needs work/training/settling more than it needs new bodies. As important as a CM or forward might be. Who we have now should be enough, barring more nasty injuries... |  |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 13:21 - Aug 20 with 1046 views | EuanTown |
I just wish we only knew about them when it was almost done. I hate the interested in, close to agree fee, made enquiries about.
The problem with the above 3 examples is they are nothing statements.
All I want is terms agreed, signed or done. And it is all very quite at the moment. Calm before the storm. |  | | |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 14:15 - Aug 20 with 931 views | Guthrum |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 12:50 - Aug 20 by jasondozzell |
Well said. Completely agree.
I also think part of the problem is the slightly distasteful way the window is now treated. Perhaps part of a wider cultural thing.
I understand the excitement of being linked with players and we all like a good transfer story but there's a strange undercurrent at the moment with fans, particularly those on social media, behaving like spoilt children. Like a toy a child tires of, they seem to be chasing the next 'rush' and when it doesn't come or isn't the fantasy football type approach they expect, they throw their toys out of the pram. A big part of that is attention seeking.
It's a world where football is relegated to second best and spending money and amassing names is considered more important.
At the risk of sounding pretentious I think it's just more late stage capitalism. The football version. Ultimately consumption doesn't make us happy! A 10 million pound ex Ajax midfielder? Bored, onto the next one! A returning proven player with champions League experience at Napoli? Whatever, I want more...A championship golden boot winner... Fine but why aren't we spending 25 million on a bigger name?
It's sort of infantile and childish. Maybe I'm being unfair but feels like the fans who returned after success just want everything their way all the time. But that's not what supporting a football team is, is it.
Blokes next to me exited on the final whistle on Sunday shaking their heads and with thunderous looks. Bizarre! |
It's also the attitude of "player X isn't immediately outstanding, we have to buy more replacements". I'm thinking of Matusiwa, Ogbene having been out injured for ages, Akpom and Cajuste not being quite match-ready, Humphreys being worked into the senior squad and so on. |  |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 14:20 - Aug 20 with 905 views | Keno |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 11:45 - Aug 20 by FrimleyBlue |
I personally miss the days where the local journos could announce a link that we could actively discuss rather than these x rumours by accounts with 50 followers. |
I miss the days when a posters **Cotty** could make up a random link, post it on here and have a local journalist ask the manager about said linked player on a press conference
TWTDs |  |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 15:08 - Aug 20 with 816 views | darkhorse28 |
A troll thread seems now not to be defined as wilfull negativity, just to get a reaction.
It’s now defined in here as anything that makes some emotionally crippled individuals, with attachment issues; feel bad.
When repeating the owners statement of facts is trolling, then we probably need to set up an emotional support helpline.
I get the emotional investment in our club and team, in owners, CEO’s and managers (unless they teach the heights of Alf and Bobby) it’s basically a cry for help:
We can’t have debate and discourse, it’s just reductive, tribal, cult like nonsense.
Facts like results, and ownership statements are discarded as mere conjecture.., a spell in the third division (where we measurably have spent almost no time in our history) held up as the standard to compare all progress.
We don’t help ourselves. I’ve seen people destroyed on here.., just for stating simple and concerning facts, not one or two bad displays, but evidenced facts over a long period.
That we can’t even discuss the clubs sake without people reducing it to hysterical name calling like troll, or Norwich fan, is so pathetic.
It’s quiet, because the £100 million sales, poor window process, poor strategy, and the consequences, are obviously true.
Not to say we still can’t be successful at this level.., but clearly you can’t operate as we do and be successful at the level above.
We can’t have even a vague discussion around the issues.
All because some people invested their entire personality and self esteem in Ashton and McKenna and bought the hype at its peak.., doesn’t make them bad or terrible, but they clearly aren’t at the level they promised fans and the owners, no disgrace, just now measurably true.
That’s why it’s quiet.
Doubt some of the n buckle daggers can even look in the mirror.., how do you defend ‘we don’t need to sell’ ‘this is progress’ when you then sell up to £10p million in talent, lose 7 of your best players, and sign ONE player who will be still contracted if we don’t go up.
There’s fantasy .., and even the fairy tale fan club have to accept facts (eventually): or do they.
I often wonder if they had such blind faith in Evans and Hurst .., I think they did.
And that’s my issue.
We should stand together, never be negative in a match day or dig individual players out (my opinion) but we need to talk about the big issues like ownership and strategy and where we want to be.., and it’s impossible in here.
And those ignorant knuckle dragging highly emotionally invested.
When they turn .., they’re 199% the other way and slaughtering everyone and everything at the tip of their voice!
Ashton and McKenna will be worse than anything before it if it go’s wrong.., and that wine be true either.
No discourse, no debate, serious facts ignored, and at the end of the window, if results are poor, and we are sold, sitting in lots of cash, they’ll blame everyone but the man in the mirror.
At times this isn’t a forum.
It’s a place where the emotionally vulnerable crave validation.
‘Mark ashton appreciation posts’ woukd define trolling in the context of the mast 18 months. You’d need to be blind deaf and dumb, to think this is a strategic master class.
Mark woukd be long gone if McKenna wasn’t a talented coach.., and his coaching.., is as good as his management is bad.., we have such a senior management void it’s become a chasm.
It’s all about the vibes though.., not the results, recruitment, finances, league table, tactics, or man management.
Blub. Sorry .., I just don’t have another 22 years for people to work out Mark isnt the answer : )) | | | |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 15:25 - Aug 20 with 774 views | britbiker |
There seems to be a lot of newish posters (that for some weird reason have a name finishing in ....blue who are either trolls or very new to football where itfc spending 10 million is supposed to be normal.
The silent majority seem more realistic that we are further down the pecking order now so have to wait for clubs above to finalise their business or players are waiting for better offers before committing their future to us.
I would have loved a win in the first two games but two draws was always my minimum goal based on the two teams we faced whist putting together the next phase of our rebuilding.
It's horrid to think that our goal is another year in the premiership. How on earth are you supposed to go up stronger than previous when you have your best players cherry picked. Just hope you get lucky with a squad that becomes better than it's individual parts. [Post edited 20 Aug 15:26]
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 15:36 - Aug 20 with 721 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
People are fed up after an uninspiring summer in the market where we are now a big fish in a small pond compared to last season.
It's going to need to be a busy next 10-12 days, the make do with what we have line isn't going to fly.
I'd like 4-5 more in and a few outs but I think it will be 3 in max unfortunately. |  |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 17:03 - Aug 20 with 606 views | Benters |
| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 13:02 - Aug 20 by blueasfook |
Out of curiosity... how long is the twtd probationary period? Do you have to have a meeting with Phil once a week where he reviews your posts and lets you know how you're doing? And then at the end of it, he PMs you and lets you know you've passed and are now a permanent member of the board? So you can then join the twtd pension scheme |
It’s every two weeks.You have a meeting at TWTD Towers and all those on probation sit round on chairs in a circle and the admin team give you your results.
You have to be banned longer than 10 hours though 😉😂. | |
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| For all the understandable complaints about troll threads... on 22:59 - Aug 20 with 416 views | Sharkey |
One of the 'silver linings' of returning to the Championship was that the games will come thicker and faster; I'd forgotten how long that takes to kick in, - not really until October. |  | | |
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