| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse 19:20 - Aug 22 with 1792 views | redrickstuhaart |
Fight me on this....
Currently sampling a series of craft beer joints in Harrogate prior to trundling over to Preston in the morning.
Bar 1. Nice place. Friendly, relaxed, keen to offer samples of everything. 14 items on the draft list 2 of which are cask ales. Of the first 12 9 are ipa pale ale of some description. NINE! Then there's a radler and 2 pils lagers. The cask stuff? A session ipa and a pale ale... Not a proper ale or anything other than ipa to be had, basically.
Bar 2. Lots of ipa.... Also some wheat beer. Hooray! However, each of the 4 wheat beers has fecking fruit in it. Why? No ale. Nothing Belgian or proper weissebeer styles. Just ipas.... The same endless slop that comes in overly colourful cartoony cans in the supermarket.
So it's lager again. [Post edited 22 Aug 19:21]
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| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 19:44 - Aug 22 with 1514 views | Meadowlark |
Seek cask ales, not craft ales. Trust me.
You'll thank me when you're as old as me. |  | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 19:49 - Aug 22 with 1477 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 19:44 - Aug 22 by Meadowlark |
Seek cask ales, not craft ales. Trust me.
You'll thank me when you're as old as me. |
I am well aware of the virtues of cask ale. What I don't get is a place putting on two casks and making them fecking ipas to add to the other 9 on the menu! | | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 19:53 - Aug 22 with 1423 views | flykickingbybgunn |
Blackfriars in Yarmouth. Eastern Region CAMRA pub of the year his year.
10 real ales including 2 from it's own brewery. 4 Dark beers. 60+ real ciders, 120 bottled and draft Belgian beers.
It's grim but I manage to cope. But what to have next ? |  | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 19:56 - Aug 22 with 1407 views | Perublue |
I blame the 21st century hipster ….. for all the ills of the World and everything really .. I guess hopsters would be a better name. |  |
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| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 19:59 - Aug 22 with 1388 views | fabian_illness |
Just give up beer.
Will make you far less angry and frustrated. |  | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 20:19 - Aug 22 with 1318 views | jontysnut |
An old pale of mine who grew up on a choice of Holt's mild or bitter, when faced with a choice like this, used to ask ' have you owt brown?' [Post edited 22 Aug 20:20]
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| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 20:29 - Aug 22 with 1256 views | norfsufblue |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 19:56 - Aug 22 by Perublue |
I blame the 21st century hipster ….. for all the ills of the World and everything really .. I guess hopsters would be a better name. |
Very rare to get a choice of Dark Ales sadly |  | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 20:35 - Aug 22 with 1214 views | TractorWood |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 20:19 - Aug 22 by jontysnut |
An old pale of mine who grew up on a choice of Holt's mild or bitter, when faced with a choice like this, used to ask ' have you owt brown?' [Post edited 22 Aug 20:20]
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Reminds McSorley's in New York. They only do light or dark beer. Both excellent. |  |
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| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 20:36 - Aug 22 with 1207 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 20:29 - Aug 22 by norfsufblue |
Very rare to get a choice of Dark Ales sadly |
That would be the 'Friars then. [Post edited 22 Aug 20:41]
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| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 20:36 - Aug 22 with 1208 views | BloomBlue |
I blame social media.
Was one of those establishments the Harrogate Tap by any chance? |  | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 20:39 - Aug 22 with 1185 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 20:36 - Aug 22 by BloomBlue |
I blame social media.
Was one of those establishments the Harrogate Tap by any chance? |
Not been there. North bar and cold bath brewery | | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 20:45 - Aug 22 with 1140 views | brogansnose |
I used to be into craft beers but, quite frankly, I swerve them now. I find that after a couple my palate becomes 'blind' so revert back to something more normal. Somewhere like North Bar in Leeds works well in respect that its possible to have a drink thats different but not too ' crafty.' |  | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 20:46 - Aug 22 with 1131 views | BloomBlue |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 20:39 - Aug 22 by redrickstuhaart |
Not been there. North bar and cold bath brewery |
The tap did have some reasonable craft beers, but I'm going back a few months now, so it's possible it's no better now than the two places you've tried | | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 21:21 - Aug 22 with 1022 views | DBaldy |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 19:49 - Aug 22 by redrickstuhaart |
I am well aware of the virtues of cask ale. What I don't get is a place putting on two casks and making them fecking ipas to add to the other 9 on the menu! |
If it helps, IPA and pale ale are different styles. And most variants of both of them taste subtly different to each other depending on the hops and malt used.
On the other hand, all lagers taste the same. Fight me on it 😉 | | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 21:26 - Aug 22 with 1001 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 21:21 - Aug 22 by DBaldy |
If it helps, IPA and pale ale are different styles. And most variants of both of them taste subtly different to each other depending on the hops and malt used.
On the other hand, all lagers taste the same. Fight me on it 😉 |
Go to Prague. Have a properly fresh well poured Urquell and come back to me... | | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 21:42 - Aug 22 with 960 views | stonojnr |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 19:49 - Aug 22 by redrickstuhaart |
I am well aware of the virtues of cask ale. What I don't get is a place putting on two casks and making them fecking ipas to add to the other 9 on the menu! |
they might not have the choice on what beer styles theyve got, and they might not have the beer knowledge to go with it thesedays.
I mean even in the best cask bars, it infuriated me earlier in the summer during the heatwave, when I kept going to this pub and they only had stouts/best bitters on. and youre like surely to god youve thought most people want to drink golden ale when its hot, but I can almost guarantee come autumn and winter, theyll have a board of light refreshing golden ales on. | | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 21:53 - Aug 22 with 928 views | Meadowlark |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 19:53 - Aug 22 by flykickingbybgunn |
Blackfriars in Yarmouth. Eastern Region CAMRA pub of the year his year.
10 real ales including 2 from it's own brewery. 4 Dark beers. 60+ real ciders, 120 bottled and draft Belgian beers.
It's grim but I manage to cope. But what to have next ? |
Great pub. Great beers anyway. Always a friendly welcome, but possibly a bit lacking in atmosphere? | | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 22:24 - Aug 22 with 849 views | GunnsAirkick |
'Craft beer' or whatever you want to call it used to be decent. Now it seems to have turned largely into alcopop.
Tiny Rebel are a good example. They used to brew some decent beer, now it's all flavoured crap bar the odd one like Hadouken.
I prefer decent continental pilsners or wheat beers these days as they have more body to them than the flavoured or over diluted crap most craft breweries churn out. Ale has also remained decent if kept well, a nice bitter or strong ale is a thing of beauty.
I occasionally find a decent IPA and I'll say bottle condition Proper Job is still cracking. Most of the time it's just the same hazy, bland nonsense over and over again though (so not even fitting in the real IPA style either). |  | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 22:28 - Aug 22 with 834 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 22:24 - Aug 22 by GunnsAirkick |
'Craft beer' or whatever you want to call it used to be decent. Now it seems to have turned largely into alcopop.
Tiny Rebel are a good example. They used to brew some decent beer, now it's all flavoured crap bar the odd one like Hadouken.
I prefer decent continental pilsners or wheat beers these days as they have more body to them than the flavoured or over diluted crap most craft breweries churn out. Ale has also remained decent if kept well, a nice bitter or strong ale is a thing of beauty.
I occasionally find a decent IPA and I'll say bottle condition Proper Job is still cracking. Most of the time it's just the same hazy, bland nonsense over and over again though (so not even fitting in the real IPA style either). |
Overhopped one note fizzy mostly! Youngsters today etc etc | | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 08:20 - Aug 23 with 428 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 21:42 - Aug 22 by stonojnr |
they might not have the choice on what beer styles theyve got, and they might not have the beer knowledge to go with it thesedays.
I mean even in the best cask bars, it infuriated me earlier in the summer during the heatwave, when I kept going to this pub and they only had stouts/best bitters on. and youre like surely to god youve thought most people want to drink golden ale when its hot, but I can almost guarantee come autumn and winter, theyll have a board of light refreshing golden ales on. |
My old mate, for 13 years, ordered the beer for the CAMRA Norwich Beer Festival.
He has often told me that if the weather was warm at the end of October then golden beers sold well. However when it got cold the darks went quicker. | | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 08:49 - Aug 23 with 370 views | BondiBlue |
I was into it for a bit but nothing in the last 25 years has tasted as good as adnams broadside on tap when i was 16 in woodbridge.
I'm on p1ss weak australian lager now and loving it. | |
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| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 08:49 - Aug 23 with 370 views | Mullet |
I had some peroni last night. Lovely stuff. |  |
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| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 09:25 - Aug 23 with 283 views | DBaldy |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 21:26 - Aug 22 by redrickstuhaart |
Go to Prague. Have a properly fresh well poured Urquell and come back to me... |
Ah, the old "Guinness tastes different in Dublin" argument.
I've tried Urquell before, served by a qualified beer sommelier, but wasn't impressed by it. But I tried it, rather than dismiss it out of hand, as I try to keep an open mind about beers that I haven't had before.
A West Coast IPA will look and taste completely different to a New England hazy IPA, and there is plenty of variety in between.
If you like lager then it's quite possible you'd enjoy a West Coaster. Or maybe look into which hops are in the "ales" you like, as there's bound to be a craft option with those same hops which you might enjoy too. | | | |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 09:32 - Aug 23 with 266 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Craft beer has disappeared up its own generic arse on 09:25 - Aug 23 by DBaldy |
Ah, the old "Guinness tastes different in Dublin" argument.
I've tried Urquell before, served by a qualified beer sommelier, but wasn't impressed by it. But I tried it, rather than dismiss it out of hand, as I try to keep an open mind about beers that I haven't had before.
A West Coast IPA will look and taste completely different to a New England hazy IPA, and there is plenty of variety in between.
If you like lager then it's quite possible you'd enjoy a West Coaster. Or maybe look into which hops are in the "ales" you like, as there's bound to be a craft option with those same hops which you might enjoy too. |
Freshness and a proper Czech pour definitely makes a difference. | | | |
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