| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah 20:24 - Sep 10 with 64354 views | ElderGrizzly |
Was speaking at a University event and appears to have been shot (from distance) in the neck.
And actually shot, not the Donald Trump kind.
Horrific whatever your political views and has no place in politics
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 13:10 - Sep 14 with 1165 views | Herbivore |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 13:00 - Sep 14 by Trequartista |
The bullying and hatred and absolute refusal to accept alternative points of view from the radical leftists is totally out of control. Apologies for not being here to defend you, am not returning until this has calmed down, if at all. |
I see you don't have any issues with lowhouse constantly referring to people as pathetic because they refuse to engage with him. I think the hyperbole in your post also speaks volumes, a refusal to engage and an explanation of why is not hatred is it? And describing some of the posters who take issue with lowhouse as being "radical leftists" is complete nonsense and doing far more to stoke division than the posts you take issue with. |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 13:20 - Sep 14 with 1131 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 13:00 - Sep 14 by Trequartista |
The bullying and hatred and absolute refusal to accept alternative points of view from the radical leftists is totally out of control. Apologies for not being here to defend you, am not returning until this has calmed down, if at all. |
Lowhouse was honest enough to post that he knew little to nothing about Charlie Kirk and asked for justification as to why Kirk was branded a fascist. I would imagine 99% of the people throwing around terms such as fascist had ever heard of him before the news broke of his murder either.
The only people I'd trust 100% on this thread when they say they knew about Charlie Kirk and what he stood for are Dan The Man, Kropotkin and Blueschev. Maybe Grizzers as well.
Oddly enough, a number of the people who downvoted me saying that I didn't believe the label fascist was appropriate when describing Charlie Kirk also upvoted Blueschev in a post where he said "I wouldn't call him a fascist". Which goes to show that a lot of people on here don't actually react to what is posted but rather to the people who are posting it and Lowhouse is certainly a victim of this. [Post edited 14 Sep 16:12]
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 13:29 - Sep 14 with 1082 views | MK1 |
Whilst about to answer a question on gun crimes.
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:04 - Sep 14 with 990 views | eireblue |
I get the point of what lowhouse is trying but is just playing a definition game.
Sure, it is easy, if being accused of being a fascist, to deflect and make the person saying that seem reactionary, extremist and silly. And play into the person being accused.
But here’s a thing, Hitler was religious, his views changed, but he had religious views. He was intolerant of other religions, and promoted a view. Nazi’s started influencing young people in the 1920s. In the 1920’s were they promoting a world view that suggest Jews should be put into concentration camps, and Germany should go to war, or were the promoting an Aryan vision, a make Germany great agin, you may say.
Was Hitler misunderstood, was he just very religious and socially conservative for a while, you know, before he was elected, and then turned Fascist.
As an aside. Someone debating from the starting point of “Prove me wrong” isn’t debating.
Sure the US is a democracy. But let’s consider, Project 2025…which: calls for the replacement of merit-based federal civil service workers by people loyal to Trump and for taking partisan control of key government agencies, including the Department of Justice, FBI. And the purpose of Project 2025…"building a governing agenda, not just for next January but long into the future"
Now Charlie Kirk, didn’t think laws for civil rights is good, he didn’t like feminism and thought women should be house wife’s, he didn’t like LGBTQ+ rights, talked about Gods perfect Law in stoning homosexuals, and wasn’t keen on immigrants. And he was part of Project 2025.
So let’s consider this, we have a group of people, that want to ensure they stay in power, they demonise other political parties, they don’t like gay people, they don’t like other religions, they don’t like civil rights legislation, they don’t like immigrants, they want to take over the courts and law enforcement, and they are quite happy to deploy the military, and are religious fundamentalists…..sure what could possible go wrong, but let’s not call that Fascism, or more importantly people that want and advocate for that outcome, lest not call them Fascists…..wait until they start doing more of that sort of thing, so let’s give another 10 years….
Luckily in the past when Mosley was trying to get started with his Fascist party, war with Germany broke out.
With Elon Musk et al, funding and trying to influence the U.K. i.e calling for the dissolution of Parliament, we of course should not be concerned in anyway…let’s worry about the precise definition of what we are seeing.
Lowhouse, good job, you are very good at talking to people who are concerned about what is happening about what word to use.
Well done you.
By the way, would you describe a fundamental religious organisation that wants to maintain power, Fascist, or just you know, a bit right?
What is the correct word to describe what Project 2025 want to achieve?
Personally I think you should be turning that intellect into something productive.
Your task is still, to convince Benters to not vote for Farage and his party.
If you can do that, I make you right.
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:04 - Sep 14 with 993 views | giant_stow |
This thread has become extremely personal innit. Personally, i have respect for Lowhouse and many on the other side too - eek, the dreaded 'both sides' - i'd just encourage people to believe the best in others first. |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:07 - Sep 14 with 977 views | J2BLUE |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:04 - Sep 14 by giant_stow |
This thread has become extremely personal innit. Personally, i have respect for Lowhouse and many on the other side too - eek, the dreaded 'both sides' - i'd just encourage people to believe the best in others first. |
There's still a few of us. We'll face the gulags together mate.
That scene from LOTR is popping into my head. Never thought i'd die side by side with a scummer (elf). |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:08 - Sep 14 with 965 views | Herbivore |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:04 - Sep 14 by giant_stow |
This thread has become extremely personal innit. Personally, i have respect for Lowhouse and many on the other side too - eek, the dreaded 'both sides' - i'd just encourage people to believe the best in others first. |
When someone shows you who they are repeatedly, you should take notice. That people don't is how we ended up with Johnson as PM and Farage somehow still being very relevant in the political life of the country. | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:15 - Sep 14 with 938 views | Dubtractor |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 13:20 - Sep 14 by GlasgowBlue |
Lowhouse was honest enough to post that he knew little to nothing about Charlie Kirk and asked for justification as to why Kirk was branded a fascist. I would imagine 99% of the people throwing around terms such as fascist had ever heard of him before the news broke of his murder either.
The only people I'd trust 100% on this thread when they say they knew about Charlie Kirk and what he stood for are Dan The Man, Kropotkin and Blueschev. Maybe Grizzers as well.
Oddly enough, a number of the people who downvoted me saying that I didn't believe the label fascist was appropriate when describing Charlie Kirk also upvoted Blueschev in a post where he said "I wouldn't call him a fascist". Which goes to show that a lot of people on here don't actually react to what is posted but rather to the people who are posting it and Lowhouse is certainly a victim of this. [Post edited 14 Sep 16:12]
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The thing with Lowhouse that I and others object to, is that he states regularly that he is a centrist that votes Labour, yet he always, always, pops up in threads like this to argue the toss with left leaning posters, but I've not once seen him take a similar approach to right leaning posters. I've seen some deeply unpleasant stuff on here from right leaning posters recently, and not a peep from Lowhouse about whether the language or terminology is correct.
And to claim to know nothing about Charlie Kirk, given the wall to wall coverage of the man in the last few days, is either outstandingly ignorant (which is hard to believe for someone who claims to understand a lot about politics) or it is disingenuous and deliberately looking to do exactly what I described in my first paragraph.
Him and Trequartista dismissing anyone who disagrees with their views as radical leftists, noisy leftists etc is just another way of doing exactly what they claim others are doing to them to minimise their views. Do people like me, Swanners or Swailsey come across as radical or noisy?
I'll bow out at this point as I'm getting involved in the sort of stuff I try to avoid on here! |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:19 - Sep 14 with 924 views | Swailsey |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:15 - Sep 14 by Dubtractor |
The thing with Lowhouse that I and others object to, is that he states regularly that he is a centrist that votes Labour, yet he always, always, pops up in threads like this to argue the toss with left leaning posters, but I've not once seen him take a similar approach to right leaning posters. I've seen some deeply unpleasant stuff on here from right leaning posters recently, and not a peep from Lowhouse about whether the language or terminology is correct.
And to claim to know nothing about Charlie Kirk, given the wall to wall coverage of the man in the last few days, is either outstandingly ignorant (which is hard to believe for someone who claims to understand a lot about politics) or it is disingenuous and deliberately looking to do exactly what I described in my first paragraph.
Him and Trequartista dismissing anyone who disagrees with their views as radical leftists, noisy leftists etc is just another way of doing exactly what they claim others are doing to them to minimise their views. Do people like me, Swanners or Swailsey come across as radical or noisy?
I'll bow out at this point as I'm getting involved in the sort of stuff I try to avoid on here! |
100% this.
It’s patterned behaviour which several of us called out. It then became nasty with some so I stepped back.
It’s the incessant need to try and throw a spanner in the works which is so frustrating. It breaks down debate - and then the complete lack of accountability is so difficult to swallow.
If LH really believes in the causes he says he does, then why does he go so far out of his way to antagonise threads which are aligned to him? [Post edited 14 Sep 14:20]
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:29 - Sep 14 with 876 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:15 - Sep 14 by Dubtractor |
The thing with Lowhouse that I and others object to, is that he states regularly that he is a centrist that votes Labour, yet he always, always, pops up in threads like this to argue the toss with left leaning posters, but I've not once seen him take a similar approach to right leaning posters. I've seen some deeply unpleasant stuff on here from right leaning posters recently, and not a peep from Lowhouse about whether the language or terminology is correct.
And to claim to know nothing about Charlie Kirk, given the wall to wall coverage of the man in the last few days, is either outstandingly ignorant (which is hard to believe for someone who claims to understand a lot about politics) or it is disingenuous and deliberately looking to do exactly what I described in my first paragraph.
Him and Trequartista dismissing anyone who disagrees with their views as radical leftists, noisy leftists etc is just another way of doing exactly what they claim others are doing to them to minimise their views. Do people like me, Swanners or Swailsey come across as radical or noisy?
I'll bow out at this point as I'm getting involved in the sort of stuff I try to avoid on here! |
I’ll admit I put Lowie on ignore a long time ago as I thought he was arguing in bad faith and it was annoying me. I don’t know whether I was right or wrong, but my blood pressure is lower now lol. As far as I know Lowie could be a thoroughly nice person.
I try to steer clear of personal stuff, it’s not nice to see. We should be making love innit (metaphorically!). |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:54 - Sep 14 with 698 views | Trequartista |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:15 - Sep 14 by Dubtractor |
The thing with Lowhouse that I and others object to, is that he states regularly that he is a centrist that votes Labour, yet he always, always, pops up in threads like this to argue the toss with left leaning posters, but I've not once seen him take a similar approach to right leaning posters. I've seen some deeply unpleasant stuff on here from right leaning posters recently, and not a peep from Lowhouse about whether the language or terminology is correct.
And to claim to know nothing about Charlie Kirk, given the wall to wall coverage of the man in the last few days, is either outstandingly ignorant (which is hard to believe for someone who claims to understand a lot about politics) or it is disingenuous and deliberately looking to do exactly what I described in my first paragraph.
Him and Trequartista dismissing anyone who disagrees with their views as radical leftists, noisy leftists etc is just another way of doing exactly what they claim others are doing to them to minimise their views. Do people like me, Swanners or Swailsey come across as radical or noisy?
I'll bow out at this point as I'm getting involved in the sort of stuff I try to avoid on here! |
I’ve calmed down a bit now, I just can’t stand bullying and what I could have written would have seen a ban, so I’m glad I wrote what I did however lumping all radical leftists into one basket was inaccurate.
Absolutely nothing wrong with a radical left political position, it’s the inability to accept there are alternative viewpoints that I take issue with. There are certainly those with whom I disagree as what I would term radical left with who are perfectly willing to engage with good humour (Swansea blue for example). Others not so.
If anyone is familiar with Novara Media that gives a good example of what I mean. From that crew, Aaron Bastani who I believe is a Marxist, engages with people from all parts of the spectrum with good humour, appears on GB News to give opinions and I enjoy listening to him. Michael Walker also of Novara Media sits in his dungeon sneering. |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:57 - Sep 14 with 681 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:54 - Sep 14 by Trequartista |
I’ve calmed down a bit now, I just can’t stand bullying and what I could have written would have seen a ban, so I’m glad I wrote what I did however lumping all radical leftists into one basket was inaccurate.
Absolutely nothing wrong with a radical left political position, it’s the inability to accept there are alternative viewpoints that I take issue with. There are certainly those with whom I disagree as what I would term radical left with who are perfectly willing to engage with good humour (Swansea blue for example). Others not so.
If anyone is familiar with Novara Media that gives a good example of what I mean. From that crew, Aaron Bastani who I believe is a Marxist, engages with people from all parts of the spectrum with good humour, appears on GB News to give opinions and I enjoy listening to him. Michael Walker also of Novara Media sits in his dungeon sneering. |
How and why are you talking about radical left positions? There is not a hint of tin this thread! Bizarre shifting of the issues. |  | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:05 - Sep 14 with 631 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 09:22 - Sep 14 by lowhouseblue |
the people who are saying these things all share your political views and act together. everyone knows that. like you, rather than ever defend or even explain those views they instead rely on constant pathetic ad hominem attacks. like you, rather than respond reasonably to challenge and alternative political views they whinge about it being unfair and involving debating trickery. that fact that a group on here who all agree with each other do it doesn't make it any more true. a group being pathetic is no more impressive than just you being pathetic.
i asked mullet a question - which specific views did he consider to be fascist. he was using the term it's legitimate for someone to ask him to justify it. that's not clever debating skills or tricks - it's a challenge for him to justify his views. like you, he doesn't answer and instead we get the usual scripted nonsense about the question being unfair. take a look at your self- individually and as a part of your little gang on here - why won't you debate and respond to alternative views, questions and challenges. the fact is that a group has decided that this is the way to deal with political challenges. it is genuinely pathetic for a group of adults who are interested in politics to refuse to engage with criticism and critiques of their views - and the smokescreen about me not arguing fairly is just astonishingly juvenile.
this is the post which has panicked your little group into collective blubbing and bosom clutching:
"i know little about him and next to nothing before he was murdered. can you be specific about which of his views were 'fascist' and how you distinguish them from hard right or christian nationalist or social conservative etc views? and are fascist views distinct from advocating fascism as a political programme - and did he do that? genuinely know next to nothing about him."
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"the people who are saying these things all share your political views and act together."
This is an incredibly lazy arguement and demonstrably untrue. I have said many times that Charlie Kirk is not a fascist within this thread. His opinions don't in any way meet the economic criteria for fascism.
People with different political views, expressed within this very thread, have agreed it relation to what you have said.
Your complaint about other posters comes across as a red herring and stonewalling. Your previous post that most people "acted together" on was either bad faith debating or sealioning, which is why it got the reaction it did.
You accuse people of ad hominem attacks, but I question whether you know what an ad hominem attack is, because you resort to it 3 times in the same paragraph, which comes across as deflection, hypocrisy, and projection.
This is why people who agree with you that he isn't fascist (Eg, me) and people who state he is a fascist (Eg, Mullet) respond with counter arguments to your posts.
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Ad hominem: A logical fallacy in which someone attacks their opponent’s character, motives, or traits instead of addressing the actual argument or issue at hand.
Example: You called them pathetic rather than responding to their points.
Red herring: deliberately shifting the topic to something else to avoid answering.
Example: Fabricating a group of like-minded individuals in order to shift attention away from you engaging in an arguement that you claim to know next to nothing about.
Stonewalling: Refusing to answer at all, to stall or wear the other person down.
Example: Same as previous.
Bad faith debating: Engaging in long arguments without any intention of understanding, then claiming ignorance as a way to dismiss responsibility for the discussion.
Example: You engage continue to engage in a 17 page thread about Charlie Kirk, despite admitting you know next to nothing about him.
Sealioning: When someone feigns ignorance and repeatedly demands explanations or evidence, not out of genuine curiosity, but to exhaust the other person’s time and energy.
Example: People can't prove this, but it is extremely odd that someone debating about Charlie Kirk and fascism needs his views explained in relation to fascism on page 13.
No one took the bait, and thus you delivered a rather hollow gotcha: "this is the post which has panicked your little group into collective blubbing and bosom clutching". "can not one of you provide an answer?" - more ad hominems.
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"i know little about him and next to nothing before he was murdered. can you be specific about which of his views were 'fascist' and how you distinguish them from hard right or christian nationalist or social conservative etc views? and are fascist views distinct from advocating fascism as a political programme - and did he do that? genuinely know next to nothing about him."
What you are asking someone to do is define fascism, the hard right, Christian nationalism, social conservatives, and more. Lay out all of Charlie Kirk's opinions, and how each opinion differs from the other group. Not content with that you want people separate out holding fascist views and advocating for fascism. It is a ridiculous itinerary of demands, particularly for someone who in the same breath says they know nothing about the person.
I don't agree with the people labelling him fascist, but I can't remember a more obnoxious ask of an opposing viewpoint. I am quite capable of arguing Charlie Kirk isn't a fascist far more succinctly, and so are you.
Despite not labelling him fascist, I'm not ignorant as to why others do. I can tell you he is different from the groups you describe insomuch as he transported 300-400 people to take part in an insurrection.
Why do you care about the distinction between the hard right and fascism? It's blurry lines at best. I question your morality if you want to excuse his actions - supporting an insurrection - on this basis. [Post edited 14 Sep 16:11]
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:23 - Sep 14 with 577 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 13:00 - Sep 14 by Trequartista |
The bullying and hatred and absolute refusal to accept alternative points of view from the radical leftists is totally out of control. Apologies for not being here to defend you, am not returning until this has calmed down, if at all. |
I have stated he isn't a fascist, so many times it is becoming tedious for me to include it as a clause. Not once have I been the victim of bullying and hatred within this thread. Perhaps it's because I'm not an apologist for his extremism. | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:57 - Sep 14 with 486 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:23 - Sep 14 by Kropotkin123 |
I have stated he isn't a fascist, so many times it is becoming tedious for me to include it as a clause. Not once have I been the victim of bullying and hatred within this thread. Perhaps it's because I'm not an apologist for his extremism. |
Which kind of proves my earlier point that it's not always what is posted that gets a reaction but the person who posted it.
At various times in this thread I have said that Kirk is "basically a white toothed clean cut version of the Westborough baptists", he was an anti vaxer who "spread misinformation" and that "I am offended by Charlie Kirk's ultra conservative right wing Christian views and I find his beliefs absolutely abhorrent".
Yet a small group who tend to downvote me if I said Ipswich play at Portman Road piled on with comments about me being an "apologist", that "these people would have been saying the same things in the 1930s" and that I'm "Upset about anything but the fascism", followed by a few cheap jibes when I decided it was pointless to continue and bailed from the thread for the night.
And since I've returned I've noticed that Lowhouse gets a very negative reaction from a few of the same posters on every thread. I didn't notice this before I got the hammer.
edit. Thanks to Swailsey and Positivity for coming in to bat after I left. [Post edited 14 Sep 17:21]
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:10 - Sep 14 with 441 views | J2BLUE |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:57 - Sep 14 by GlasgowBlue |
Which kind of proves my earlier point that it's not always what is posted that gets a reaction but the person who posted it.
At various times in this thread I have said that Kirk is "basically a white toothed clean cut version of the Westborough baptists", he was an anti vaxer who "spread misinformation" and that "I am offended by Charlie Kirk's ultra conservative right wing Christian views and I find his beliefs absolutely abhorrent".
Yet a small group who tend to downvote me if I said Ipswich play at Portman Road piled on with comments about me being an "apologist", that "these people would have been saying the same things in the 1930s" and that I'm "Upset about anything but the fascism", followed by a few cheap jibes when I decided it was pointless to continue and bailed from the thread for the night.
And since I've returned I've noticed that Lowhouse gets a very negative reaction from a few of the same posters on every thread. I didn't notice this before I got the hammer.
edit. Thanks to Swailsey and Positivity for coming in to bat after I left. [Post edited 14 Sep 17:21]
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I don't think this forum can even discuss anything like this anymore. I wish last night's thread had not been deleted. | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:18 - Sep 14 with 398 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:10 - Sep 14 by J2BLUE |
I don't think this forum can even discuss anything like this anymore. I wish last night's thread had not been deleted. |
I didn't see that one. What was it about? | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:21 - Sep 14 with 384 views | Swailsey |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:57 - Sep 14 by GlasgowBlue |
Which kind of proves my earlier point that it's not always what is posted that gets a reaction but the person who posted it.
At various times in this thread I have said that Kirk is "basically a white toothed clean cut version of the Westborough baptists", he was an anti vaxer who "spread misinformation" and that "I am offended by Charlie Kirk's ultra conservative right wing Christian views and I find his beliefs absolutely abhorrent".
Yet a small group who tend to downvote me if I said Ipswich play at Portman Road piled on with comments about me being an "apologist", that "these people would have been saying the same things in the 1930s" and that I'm "Upset about anything but the fascism", followed by a few cheap jibes when I decided it was pointless to continue and bailed from the thread for the night.
And since I've returned I've noticed that Lowhouse gets a very negative reaction from a few of the same posters on every thread. I didn't notice this before I got the hammer.
edit. Thanks to Swailsey and Positivity for coming in to bat after I left. [Post edited 14 Sep 17:21]
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Were you keeping up with the forum in your absence mate? Genuine question. His posting style has shifted quite dramatically from occasionally provocative to constant every time someone from the ‘left’ posted unhappiness at something. Particular themes have been speaking patronisingly to anyone who mentioned free speech, human rights and the law. | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:28 - Sep 14 with 355 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:21 - Sep 14 by Swailsey |
Were you keeping up with the forum in your absence mate? Genuine question. His posting style has shifted quite dramatically from occasionally provocative to constant every time someone from the ‘left’ posted unhappiness at something. Particular themes have been speaking patronisingly to anyone who mentioned free speech, human rights and the law. |
Not really. I dipped in and out but very rarely and mostly when the transfer window opened. I found it quite liberating. Starting to think about a voluntary absence after the past few days on here. I can see myself getting dragged back into pointless debates with people who mean absolutely nothing to me.
I've always found Lowhouse a balanced and decent poster. We used to have a bi of back and forth pre Corbyn when he'd go into bat for Labour and vice versa.
But honestly don't recognise what some other people are saying. Same reply to Dubs earlier post. And you are two guys I have a lot of time for. | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:28 - Sep 14 with 355 views | J2BLUE |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:18 - Sep 14 by GlasgowBlue |
I didn't see that one. What was it about? |
The title was small boats.
The subject was three white men raping a Sikh woman.
Now to be fair, the story did actually have a direct quote that the current situation in the UK had an impact so no problem with that, although it was worded poorly as usual. 'Flag shaggers'.
I replied something like 'disgusting, hope they are caught and get maximum sentences'. To which, I **think** I was basically accused of trolling as I have (not my word) 'enjoyed' another thread on something that was contributing to that climate. I can think it was a daft 'GSTK' reply to Sitters when he posted something about flags.
I consider the above all factual and balanced. It will be interesting to see the poster's view if he actually wants to answer the point this time. | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:32 - Sep 14 with 330 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 13:20 - Sep 14 by GlasgowBlue |
Lowhouse was honest enough to post that he knew little to nothing about Charlie Kirk and asked for justification as to why Kirk was branded a fascist. I would imagine 99% of the people throwing around terms such as fascist had ever heard of him before the news broke of his murder either.
The only people I'd trust 100% on this thread when they say they knew about Charlie Kirk and what he stood for are Dan The Man, Kropotkin and Blueschev. Maybe Grizzers as well.
Oddly enough, a number of the people who downvoted me saying that I didn't believe the label fascist was appropriate when describing Charlie Kirk also upvoted Blueschev in a post where he said "I wouldn't call him a fascist". Which goes to show that a lot of people on here don't actually react to what is posted but rather to the people who are posting it and Lowhouse is certainly a victim of this. [Post edited 14 Sep 16:12]
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:36 - Sep 14 with 294 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:28 - Sep 14 by J2BLUE |
The title was small boats.
The subject was three white men raping a Sikh woman.
Now to be fair, the story did actually have a direct quote that the current situation in the UK had an impact so no problem with that, although it was worded poorly as usual. 'Flag shaggers'.
I replied something like 'disgusting, hope they are caught and get maximum sentences'. To which, I **think** I was basically accused of trolling as I have (not my word) 'enjoyed' another thread on something that was contributing to that climate. I can think it was a daft 'GSTK' reply to Sitters when he posted something about flags.
I consider the above all factual and balanced. It will be interesting to see the poster's view if he actually wants to answer the point this time. |
Cheers. Not sorry to have missed that one.
Yu certainly wouldn't be trolling about the vile rape of a young woman. I don't need to have seen it to know that's a nonsense accusation. [Post edited 14 Sep 17:40]
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:38 - Sep 14 with 288 views | PhilTWTD |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:28 - Sep 14 by J2BLUE |
The title was small boats.
The subject was three white men raping a Sikh woman.
Now to be fair, the story did actually have a direct quote that the current situation in the UK had an impact so no problem with that, although it was worded poorly as usual. 'Flag shaggers'.
I replied something like 'disgusting, hope they are caught and get maximum sentences'. To which, I **think** I was basically accused of trolling as I have (not my word) 'enjoyed' another thread on something that was contributing to that climate. I can think it was a daft 'GSTK' reply to Sitters when he posted something about flags.
I consider the above all factual and balanced. It will be interesting to see the poster's view if he actually wants to answer the point this time. |
I think you're mistaken, the ire was with another poster, who was treating the issue rather less seriously than it should have been. Was a spat which spread across a couple of threads. |  | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:41 - Sep 14 with 252 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:28 - Sep 14 by J2BLUE |
The title was small boats.
The subject was three white men raping a Sikh woman.
Now to be fair, the story did actually have a direct quote that the current situation in the UK had an impact so no problem with that, although it was worded poorly as usual. 'Flag shaggers'.
I replied something like 'disgusting, hope they are caught and get maximum sentences'. To which, I **think** I was basically accused of trolling as I have (not my word) 'enjoyed' another thread on something that was contributing to that climate. I can think it was a daft 'GSTK' reply to Sitters when he posted something about flags.
I consider the above all factual and balanced. It will be interesting to see the poster's view if he actually wants to answer the point this time. |
I replied something like 'disgusting, hope they are caught and get maximum sentences'. To which, I **think** I was basically accused of trolling ...
That bit never happened, I think I said you can't have it both ways as in express your sincere thoughts on this rape but also cosplay on threads rooted in xenophobia just to try and wind up 'the right people' which you do, repeatedly. | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:43 - Sep 14 with 246 views | J2BLUE |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:38 - Sep 14 by PhilTWTD |
I think you're mistaken, the ire was with another poster, who was treating the issue rather less seriously than it should have been. Was a spat which spread across a couple of threads. |
Cheers.
He replied to me though and then seemed to double down?
I am just curious, no desire for a 10 page argument. He's mentioned a mystery thread twice now and each time hasn't confirmed which one. That's all I would like to know really. | |
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