| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. 17:57 - Sep 18 with 1874 views | MattinLondon |
The poll in question is a few days old but it makes for interesting reading - support for the royal family seems to be declining. I’m not expecting the country to become a republic within the next ten years (actually can’t see it happening within the next fifty years) but once the older generation dies out support for that particular institution might well fall sharply.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/monarchy-support-record-low-trum |  | | |  |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:02 - Sep 18 with 1670 views | J2BLUE |
The fact it's been done just before Trump comes for the state visit has probably skewed it by quite a bit.
I've gone the other way. From staunch republican to reasonably supportive. |  |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:11 - Sep 18 with 1636 views | Mullet |
They’re an appalling stain on our country. Wealth hoarding, paedo protecting, anachronistic affront to any modern country. |  |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:23 - Sep 18 with 1563 views | J2BLUE |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:11 - Sep 18 by Mullet |
They’re an appalling stain on our country. Wealth hoarding, paedo protecting, anachronistic affront to any modern country. |
So you're on the fence? | |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:23 - Sep 18 with 1558 views | MattinLondon |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:02 - Sep 18 by J2BLUE |
The fact it's been done just before Trump comes for the state visit has probably skewed it by quite a bit.
I've gone the other way. From staunch republican to reasonably supportive. |
I’m in the ‘republic’ camp but realise that at the moment, I’m in the minority.
I would limit the royal family and tax all of their assets like a non-royal. I would also like to see their finances being accountable to the last penny. But for privacy I would allow a personal allowance of £150k which is theirs. | | | |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:26 - Sep 18 with 1530 views | Mullet |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:23 - Sep 18 by MattinLondon |
I’m in the ‘republic’ camp but realise that at the moment, I’m in the minority.
I would limit the royal family and tax all of their assets like a non-royal. I would also like to see their finances being accountable to the last penny. But for privacy I would allow a personal allowance of £150k which is theirs. |
Charles and William get one castle each and enough land to keep the public out.
Everything else goes back to state control and the profits ploughed back into public service. No need to kill them. Or if they refuse, they can be repatriated to Germany or wherever.
All assets and wealth to be returned to the British people. If they want to sell the castles or make money from their name so be it, as long as it’s taxed and not hidden offshore. | |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:33 - Sep 18 with 1484 views | bluelagos |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:26 - Sep 18 by Mullet |
Charles and William get one castle each and enough land to keep the public out.
Everything else goes back to state control and the profits ploughed back into public service. No need to kill them. Or if they refuse, they can be repatriated to Germany or wherever.
All assets and wealth to be returned to the British people. If they want to sell the castles or make money from their name so be it, as long as it’s taxed and not hidden offshore. |
Just make them pay inheritance tax like everyone else. And back date it. |  |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:42 - Sep 18 with 1449 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:26 - Sep 18 by Mullet |
Charles and William get one castle each and enough land to keep the public out.
Everything else goes back to state control and the profits ploughed back into public service. No need to kill them. Or if they refuse, they can be repatriated to Germany or wherever.
All assets and wealth to be returned to the British people. If they want to sell the castles or make money from their name so be it, as long as it’s taxed and not hidden offshore. |
Fotheringhay castle would do for at least one of them. |  |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:50 - Sep 18 with 1426 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Even us Republicans had some respect for the Queen as a person. But Charles is not particularly likeable, and giving speeches about tackling climate change whilst turning up to food banks in a helicopter, and having the carbon footprint of 40 British citizens is the stuff of satire. |  | | |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:50 - Sep 18 with 1424 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:42 - Sep 18 by You_Bloo_Right |
Fotheringhay castle would do for at least one of them. |
It did for Mary, Queen of Scots.
In both senses of the phrase. | | | |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 19:11 - Sep 18 with 1342 views | dickie |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:23 - Sep 18 by MattinLondon |
I’m in the ‘republic’ camp but realise that at the moment, I’m in the minority.
I would limit the royal family and tax all of their assets like a non-royal. I would also like to see their finances being accountable to the last penny. But for privacy I would allow a personal allowance of £150k which is theirs. |
Should privatise them seeing as they're apparently so profitable for the country | | | |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 00:43 - Sep 19 with 977 views | Ryorry |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 18:50 - Sep 18 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Even us Republicans had some respect for the Queen as a person. But Charles is not particularly likeable, and giving speeches about tackling climate change whilst turning up to food banks in a helicopter, and having the carbon footprint of 40 British citizens is the stuff of satire. |
“Likeable” is in the eye of the beholder.
He was way ahead of his time in predicting environmental destruction, campaigning to protect the planet, and sticking to his beliefs, despite being roundly criticised and derided for them - invaluable and courageous support at the time. Rarely hear any praise for that, despite him being proved correct.
Yes he’s not perfect, but I doubt anyone on here is. Hands up anyone who never makes a journey by car for the convenience, when they could use public transport?
Not sure how you’d ensure security for a head of state on public transport these days either. And the huge number of engagements royals take on (nb including the individuals in their 70s, at which age most of us are retired) means that private car transport just wouldn’t be fast enough; might also have just as high a carbon footprint & cost, given that a security detail of several more cars would probably be needed to accompany him. Just as for politicians and Presidents …
While I’m at it, just a mention too that the value of soft power seems to be seriously underrated by most people on here.
No problem with the UK monarchy being modernised and streamlined though, including axing (not literally) the extended family hangers on, with the paedophile prince being exiled to some remote place with only sheep for company (apologies in advance to any sheep who may be affected by this suggestion). [Post edited 19 Sep 0:53]
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 07:17 - Sep 19 with 723 views | DJR |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 00:43 - Sep 19 by Ryorry |
“Likeable” is in the eye of the beholder.
He was way ahead of his time in predicting environmental destruction, campaigning to protect the planet, and sticking to his beliefs, despite being roundly criticised and derided for them - invaluable and courageous support at the time. Rarely hear any praise for that, despite him being proved correct.
Yes he’s not perfect, but I doubt anyone on here is. Hands up anyone who never makes a journey by car for the convenience, when they could use public transport?
Not sure how you’d ensure security for a head of state on public transport these days either. And the huge number of engagements royals take on (nb including the individuals in their 70s, at which age most of us are retired) means that private car transport just wouldn’t be fast enough; might also have just as high a carbon footprint & cost, given that a security detail of several more cars would probably be needed to accompany him. Just as for politicians and Presidents …
While I’m at it, just a mention too that the value of soft power seems to be seriously underrated by most people on here.
No problem with the UK monarchy being modernised and streamlined though, including axing (not literally) the extended family hangers on, with the paedophile prince being exiled to some remote place with only sheep for company (apologies in advance to any sheep who may be affected by this suggestion). [Post edited 19 Sep 0:53]
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I'm not a monarchist but I've always quite liked Prince Charles not least because of all the stick he has had over the years. |  | | |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 07:23 - Sep 19 with 702 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 00:43 - Sep 19 by Ryorry |
“Likeable” is in the eye of the beholder.
He was way ahead of his time in predicting environmental destruction, campaigning to protect the planet, and sticking to his beliefs, despite being roundly criticised and derided for them - invaluable and courageous support at the time. Rarely hear any praise for that, despite him being proved correct.
Yes he’s not perfect, but I doubt anyone on here is. Hands up anyone who never makes a journey by car for the convenience, when they could use public transport?
Not sure how you’d ensure security for a head of state on public transport these days either. And the huge number of engagements royals take on (nb including the individuals in their 70s, at which age most of us are retired) means that private car transport just wouldn’t be fast enough; might also have just as high a carbon footprint & cost, given that a security detail of several more cars would probably be needed to accompany him. Just as for politicians and Presidents …
While I’m at it, just a mention too that the value of soft power seems to be seriously underrated by most people on here.
No problem with the UK monarchy being modernised and streamlined though, including axing (not literally) the extended family hangers on, with the paedophile prince being exiled to some remote place with only sheep for company (apologies in advance to any sheep who may be affected by this suggestion). [Post edited 19 Sep 0:53]
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I'd argue about 'huge number of engagements'. Hardly a junior doctor working 60+ hour weeks. Plus the age thing is self protection, if they started to retire at 60 another bit of the mystique would be eroded and they'd seem more like us, therefore pointless.
That's the irony, they need reform, but the more reform they have the more like us they are and it's just a few posh people working less than us, waving and having a lovely life in our castles and palaces with money that could be elsewhere.
The only thing I'll give the royals is the soft power thing, but IMO that doesn't make up for adding to class warfare in this country, and all the other multiple reasons against them. |  | | |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 07:51 - Sep 19 with 644 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 07:23 - Sep 19 by Axeldalai_lama |
I'd argue about 'huge number of engagements'. Hardly a junior doctor working 60+ hour weeks. Plus the age thing is self protection, if they started to retire at 60 another bit of the mystique would be eroded and they'd seem more like us, therefore pointless.
That's the irony, they need reform, but the more reform they have the more like us they are and it's just a few posh people working less than us, waving and having a lovely life in our castles and palaces with money that could be elsewhere.
The only thing I'll give the royals is the soft power thing, but IMO that doesn't make up for adding to class warfare in this country, and all the other multiple reasons against them. |
I'd never heard of the phrase "soft power" before this Trump visit. Now I hear it every couple of hours! |  |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 08:03 - Sep 19 with 594 views | nrb1985 |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 00:43 - Sep 19 by Ryorry |
“Likeable” is in the eye of the beholder.
He was way ahead of his time in predicting environmental destruction, campaigning to protect the planet, and sticking to his beliefs, despite being roundly criticised and derided for them - invaluable and courageous support at the time. Rarely hear any praise for that, despite him being proved correct.
Yes he’s not perfect, but I doubt anyone on here is. Hands up anyone who never makes a journey by car for the convenience, when they could use public transport?
Not sure how you’d ensure security for a head of state on public transport these days either. And the huge number of engagements royals take on (nb including the individuals in their 70s, at which age most of us are retired) means that private car transport just wouldn’t be fast enough; might also have just as high a carbon footprint & cost, given that a security detail of several more cars would probably be needed to accompany him. Just as for politicians and Presidents …
While I’m at it, just a mention too that the value of soft power seems to be seriously underrated by most people on here.
No problem with the UK monarchy being modernised and streamlined though, including axing (not literally) the extended family hangers on, with the paedophile prince being exiled to some remote place with only sheep for company (apologies in advance to any sheep who may be affected by this suggestion). [Post edited 19 Sep 0:53]
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The soft power point is really important and the damage done to the country post brexit vote on the global stage is both intangible but very large and very real. You only need to look at the lack of foreign investment in the country since 2016.
To my mind, we had three sources of soft power that enabled us to play a somewhat outsized role on the global stage post WW2:
1) The Queen
2) Political stability
3) America's eyes and ears inside the EU
All now gone. I think to do away with the Royal family now would be detrimental albeit I'm in favour of a shrunken and more financially transparent structure. | | | |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 08:17 - Sep 19 with 552 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 07:51 - Sep 19 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'd never heard of the phrase "soft power" before this Trump visit. Now I hear it every couple of hours! |
That’s strange because I had and I haven’t heard it any more than previously. Perceptions are funny things. A bit like the Royals who are also funny things. I’m not particularly for or against but do find them a bit perverse. |  |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 08:22 - Sep 19 with 525 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 07:51 - Sep 19 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'd never heard of the phrase "soft power" before this Trump visit. Now I hear it every couple of hours! |
The phrase “Soft power” has been in use since the 1990s. Even on this board it’s been used for years discussing topics such as overseas aid. |  |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 08:25 - Sep 19 with 511 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 00:43 - Sep 19 by Ryorry |
“Likeable” is in the eye of the beholder.
He was way ahead of his time in predicting environmental destruction, campaigning to protect the planet, and sticking to his beliefs, despite being roundly criticised and derided for them - invaluable and courageous support at the time. Rarely hear any praise for that, despite him being proved correct.
Yes he’s not perfect, but I doubt anyone on here is. Hands up anyone who never makes a journey by car for the convenience, when they could use public transport?
Not sure how you’d ensure security for a head of state on public transport these days either. And the huge number of engagements royals take on (nb including the individuals in their 70s, at which age most of us are retired) means that private car transport just wouldn’t be fast enough; might also have just as high a carbon footprint & cost, given that a security detail of several more cars would probably be needed to accompany him. Just as for politicians and Presidents …
While I’m at it, just a mention too that the value of soft power seems to be seriously underrated by most people on here.
No problem with the UK monarchy being modernised and streamlined though, including axing (not literally) the extended family hangers on, with the paedophile prince being exiled to some remote place with only sheep for company (apologies in advance to any sheep who may be affected by this suggestion). [Post edited 19 Sep 0:53]
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“Hands up anyone who never makes a journey by car for the convenience, when they could use public transport?”
It’s a little false equivalence though, nipping to Tesco in a 1.1l. He could have a convoy of 35 cars for his security and it would still have a lower carbon footprint than a helicopter. Actions speak louder than words and he hasn’t rescinded the ban on green energy infrastructure on the Royal property portfolio…
I do agree the soft power to an extent. BUT you have to bear in mind the toxic receptions the Royals have received in some of their former colonies, so it’s mixed at best. I do realise that they are still widely popular and my view is probably a minority one so I don’t think the Royals need worry yet. | | | |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 09:40 - Sep 19 with 392 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 08:22 - Sep 19 by GlasgowBlue |
The phrase “Soft power” has been in use since the 1990s. Even on this board it’s been used for years discussing topics such as overseas aid. |
Ok. Well I've never noticed it. | |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 10:19 - Sep 19 with 274 views | Ryorry |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 08:25 - Sep 19 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“Hands up anyone who never makes a journey by car for the convenience, when they could use public transport?”
It’s a little false equivalence though, nipping to Tesco in a 1.1l. He could have a convoy of 35 cars for his security and it would still have a lower carbon footprint than a helicopter. Actions speak louder than words and he hasn’t rescinded the ban on green energy infrastructure on the Royal property portfolio…
I do agree the soft power to an extent. BUT you have to bear in mind the toxic receptions the Royals have received in some of their former colonies, so it’s mixed at best. I do realise that they are still widely popular and my view is probably a minority one so I don’t think the Royals need worry yet. |
https://thecrownchronicles.co.uk/royal-news/princess-anne-is-hardest-working-roy
1. Princess Anne (74 in 2024) “474 engagements across the UK and overseas” in 2024
2. King Charles (75 in 2024) “372 engagements in 2024, The only days King Charles refrains from official duties remain Christmas Day and Sundays, reflecting his steadfast dedication to his role”.
A lot more than most of us I reckon, despite their health challenges.
I think it likely impossible for KC to have fitted all his UK duties into that schedule if travelling by car, but maybe you have a better grasp of logistics than me. | |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 10:59 - Sep 19 with 191 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 10:19 - Sep 19 by Ryorry |
https://thecrownchronicles.co.uk/royal-news/princess-anne-is-hardest-working-roy
1. Princess Anne (74 in 2024) “474 engagements across the UK and overseas” in 2024
2. King Charles (75 in 2024) “372 engagements in 2024, The only days King Charles refrains from official duties remain Christmas Day and Sundays, reflecting his steadfast dedication to his role”.
A lot more than most of us I reckon, despite their health challenges.
I think it likely impossible for KC to have fitted all his UK duties into that schedule if travelling by car, but maybe you have a better grasp of logistics than me. |
Nonsense. I'm sorry. But 'a lot more than most of us I reckon' is nonsense. A lot of these engagements are not full days of meetings and heavy duty work. Most of them are 'recieving' people for 20 minutes in their home or close by palace/ castle. Others are their own charity work, which though very admirable is not on our behalf as a British official.
If the average person could break up their work time by meetings and 'recieving' people, they'd have thousands of 'engagements' a year.
Whilst this is a little overblown as it's from the other extreme, this article explains a lot of such things.
https://www.republic.org.uk/hard_working_royals
Edit: I see that you were more talking about carbon footprint and travel side. So apologies if addressing a marginally different point. But overall the argument still stands. Those engagements mean very little as an objective statistic. [Post edited 19 Sep 11:10]
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 11:12 - Sep 19 with 113 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 10:19 - Sep 19 by Ryorry |
https://thecrownchronicles.co.uk/royal-news/princess-anne-is-hardest-working-roy
1. Princess Anne (74 in 2024) “474 engagements across the UK and overseas” in 2024
2. King Charles (75 in 2024) “372 engagements in 2024, The only days King Charles refrains from official duties remain Christmas Day and Sundays, reflecting his steadfast dedication to his role”.
A lot more than most of us I reckon, despite their health challenges.
I think it likely impossible for KC to have fitted all his UK duties into that schedule if travelling by car, but maybe you have a better grasp of logistics than me. |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 11:14 - Sep 19 with 109 views | pointofblue |
| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 11:08 - Sep 19 by Ryorry |
Yeah, cos most people in their mid 70s with serious health issues still regularly work in full employment  |
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| Quite an interesting poll regarding support for the royal family/ monarchy. on 11:18 - Sep 19 with 92 views | leitrimblue |
Would be nice to begin with if they were just held to the same laws as the rest of us
No abusing children
No handling stolen goods
No stealing of antiquities
Perhaps paying a bit of inheritance tax etc
Just the basics really |  | | |
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