| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer 14:26 - Oct 1 with 2948 views | CopfordBlue |
Why the need to constantly find a target to criticise?
The lad is 23 years old, been here a couple of months and in his short career has won the league we’re currently in, played regularly in the premier league and is a full international.
We know that the players and their families read this site. Why do you feel the need to publicly criticise and ridicule him? Some of the comments on the other thread about him are disgraceful. He’s a young lad, at a new club. Give him time and get behind him. |  |
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| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 23:37 - Oct 1 with 691 views | itfcsuth |
It’s a football forum, where we discuss all things ITFC - not everything posted is going to be positive.
Fans on here, in the stands, at the pubs and bars are allowed to discuss things, and that might well possibly mean saying something negative about a player or a performance - that’s footballing world. As long as it about football, and it isn’t personal, I don’t see any problem.
I think what we have seen so far from him has been poor, of course there will be criticisms off the back of that, the same way there will be plaudits if he delivers good performances.
That’s football, it’s a game of opinions. |  | | |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 23:38 - Oct 1 with 687 views | Vic |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 14:44 - Oct 1 by NthQldITFC |
Agree. I'm rapidly falling out of love with this site. (Obviously not the site, but a lot of the people on it.)
You'd think the club would have a lot of credit in the bank from what they've given us over the last few years, but oh no, it's "this is not good enough", "I want this", "wah, wah, wah."
Patience seems to have become a rare commodity. |
Glad I'm not the only one feeling that way. Had to come out of the chatroom on Monday, and dind i have to stay off for a couple of days after a pior game. The level of criticism is aweful and often teeters on abuse of the players.
Suxh a shame as I love this place. |  |
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| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 05:40 - Oct 2 with 632 views | PioneerBlue |
I’ve persistently talked about this, fan boys rant and supporters support. It’s a role and responsibility thing. MA and KMck are responsible for team and performances and they will be accountable for purchasing players developing them and untimely releasing or selling when that time comes. Meanwhile supporters encourage and support the process. Fans boy continue to rant like people can’t see what’s going on in a match. I don’t need a fan boy to explain player an isn’t having the biggest impact or they made a mistake. I chose to support the team, and celebrate team success. Thanks for reading. | |
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| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 07:18 - Oct 2 with 598 views | gosblue |
This squad will be miles better than the squad that got us promoted last time out. Late signings and an early exit from the League Cup haven't done us any favours. Simply put, some of our second string aren't yet ready to start games. We don't need to name names to know who we're talking about. I'm more worried that teams have worked out that if they overload their left flank and get early balls out there, they have a good chance of success. It is not down to any individual. Furlong for one is an excellent fullback, but he can't do it on his own. That's tactical. | | | |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 07:22 - Oct 2 with 591 views | BlueBoots |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 19:31 - Oct 1 by Whos_blue |
Hang on in there mate.
The light will always overcome the dark.
(That's what I keep telling myself anyway!) |
Unfortunately, hasn't been that way since 22nd September, and won't be again until 20th March next year  |  |
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| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 07:57 - Oct 2 with 548 views | Kieran_Knows |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 17:42 - Oct 1 by chicoazul |
The Premier League has boiled a lot of brains. Loads of good posters don’t post here anymore and many who do are complete idiots, writing players off after a couple games, questioning McK and his commitment, asking why he doesn’t change formation blah blah blah |
The formation one gets me, every single time. If you have watched us for the last 4 years, you will know full well that we line up 4-2-3-1, and we have barely strayed from that (I appreciate in game we may slightly alter), but the principles with 4-2-3-1 have been the same for 4 years. It’s bought McKenna and us, so much success.
So why on earth do people think McKenna is going to change that, or, Y R we KnOT GoRn TOo Up FrUNt bUH?!?!?!?! |  |
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| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 08:41 - Oct 2 with 519 views | Wickets |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 14:29 - Oct 1 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Players and families really shouldn't read forums etc.
I think the issue with McAteer is the price tag that has been speculated. Thats not his fault, but it brings expectations.
Critique of performances is absolutely fine, so long as no one gets personal. |
Yes his price tag is speculation from what i have been told . So who really knows ? |  | | |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 09:18 - Oct 2 with 498 views | franz_tyson |
If it was Clarke, then Jaden.... maybe it works. They've both improved recently. Especially Jaden.
Hopefully, it passes with McAteer, but i do struggle to see what he brings. If his work ethic is good I'll stick with him ... but we have to see something soon. | | | |
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| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 09:33 - Oct 2 with 484 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 23:37 - Oct 1 by itfcsuth |
It’s a football forum, where we discuss all things ITFC - not everything posted is going to be positive.
Fans on here, in the stands, at the pubs and bars are allowed to discuss things, and that might well possibly mean saying something negative about a player or a performance - that’s footballing world. As long as it about football, and it isn’t personal, I don’t see any problem.
I think what we have seen so far from him has been poor, of course there will be criticisms off the back of that, the same way there will be plaudits if he delivers good performances.
That’s football, it’s a game of opinions. |
Some fans could learn from their mistakes though... |  |
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| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 10:59 - Oct 2 with 448 views | mutters |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 09:33 - Oct 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Some fans could learn from their mistakes though... |
They could but that relies on a a bit of self awareness, so they won't! |  |
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| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 11:13 - Oct 2 with 439 views | AYACCA |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 14:44 - Oct 1 by NthQldITFC |
Agree. I'm rapidly falling out of love with this site. (Obviously not the site, but a lot of the people on it.)
You'd think the club would have a lot of credit in the bank from what they've given us over the last few years, but oh no, it's "this is not good enough", "I want this", "wah, wah, wah."
Patience seems to have become a rare commodity. |
Gen Z, most pandered to, dopamine addicted generation to have lived. Can't cope with anything not going their way. [Post edited 2 Oct 11:14]
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| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 11:24 - Oct 2 with 426 views | itfcsuth |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 09:33 - Oct 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Some fans could learn from their mistakes though... |
What does that even mean..? | | | |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 12:56 - Oct 2 with 385 views | wischip |
For those of you with long memories, who did people slag off in the 1981 team ? Ridiculous as it seems, come on, I bet there was someone to blame for not winning the treble that season. |  | | |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 13:10 - Oct 2 with 365 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 11:24 - Oct 2 by itfcsuth |
What does that even mean..? |
Well you went early in the shíttíng yourself stakes with Philogene.
Maybe some people (not only you) could reflect on 'going early' on players and have a bit more patience and understanding. We see it time and time again. | |
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| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 13:43 - Oct 2 with 342 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Must be one of the highest upvoted comments on the site?
This should be pinned at the top of the forum. |  |
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| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 14:00 - Oct 2 with 332 views | Blooos |
I think the difference with Jack Clarke and Jaden though is that they had been good before. Leicester fans couldnt believe we were signing him let alone for £12m. Needs to improve because so far I havent even seen him run past his fullback yet. | | | |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 14:33 - Oct 2 with 317 views | Churchman |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 14:00 - Oct 2 by Blooos |
I think the difference with Jack Clarke and Jaden though is that they had been good before. Leicester fans couldnt believe we were signing him let alone for £12m. Needs to improve because so far I havent even seen him run past his fullback yet. |
Well, if the Leicester fans couldn’t believe it I suggest we sack the recruitment team, tell McKenna he’ll manage with what he’s given and let the Leicester fans not only decide who comes here but also what price we pay.
Sorted.
Personally who cares what Leicester fans have to say. I don’t any more than I took any notice what the monobrow knuckle draggers of Bristol City had to say about the CEO. Take as you find.
Could it be possible that the club did its research, McKenna wanted the player here and the club not only negotiated what they thought he was worth but also what they were prepared to pay and LCFC would accept?
Or do you think they saw the highlights reel, told Leicester they wanted him. Leicester said £3m but we said ‘oh noooo, we want to pay £10m’?
Not that long ago, we not even shopping in Poundland. We were looking in the bins out the back for washed up hasbeens like Douglas, players with glass knees like Huws, punts like Polish Pete, great bloke Cokey and the likes of L2 level ‘our Nors’. We then moved up to Aldi and Lidl and had enough for the likes of Broadhead, Chaplin, Morsy and co. We are now in Sainsburys or Tescos looking at the next level up.
The ‘rules’, if there are any, seem to differ depending on what market you are in and in any case the transfer market has changed beyond recognition in the last two or three years, as demonstrated by the fee we got for Broadhead in the last year of his contract.
McAteer? I take the view let’s see what he’s like by the end of the season, not now when the bloke has been here two mins, even if he is for now top of the hate parade. |  | | |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 15:16 - Oct 2 with 285 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 11:24 - Oct 2 by itfcsuth |
What does that even mean..? |
And there we have it - lacking self awareness  | | | |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 16:57 - Oct 2 with 260 views | Blooos |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 14:33 - Oct 2 by Churchman |
Well, if the Leicester fans couldn’t believe it I suggest we sack the recruitment team, tell McKenna he’ll manage with what he’s given and let the Leicester fans not only decide who comes here but also what price we pay.
Sorted.
Personally who cares what Leicester fans have to say. I don’t any more than I took any notice what the monobrow knuckle draggers of Bristol City had to say about the CEO. Take as you find.
Could it be possible that the club did its research, McKenna wanted the player here and the club not only negotiated what they thought he was worth but also what they were prepared to pay and LCFC would accept?
Or do you think they saw the highlights reel, told Leicester they wanted him. Leicester said £3m but we said ‘oh noooo, we want to pay £10m’?
Not that long ago, we not even shopping in Poundland. We were looking in the bins out the back for washed up hasbeens like Douglas, players with glass knees like Huws, punts like Polish Pete, great bloke Cokey and the likes of L2 level ‘our Nors’. We then moved up to Aldi and Lidl and had enough for the likes of Broadhead, Chaplin, Morsy and co. We are now in Sainsburys or Tescos looking at the next level up.
The ‘rules’, if there are any, seem to differ depending on what market you are in and in any case the transfer market has changed beyond recognition in the last two or three years, as demonstrated by the fee we got for Broadhead in the last year of his contract.
McAteer? I take the view let’s see what he’s like by the end of the season, not now when the bloke has been here two mins, even if he is for now top of the hate parade. |
still rubbish tho isnt he | | | |
| I blame Fancy Bear on 19:21 - Oct 2 with 214 views | Dyland |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 14:44 - Oct 1 by NthQldITFC |
Agree. I'm rapidly falling out of love with this site. (Obviously not the site, but a lot of the people on it.)
You'd think the club would have a lot of credit in the bank from what they've given us over the last few years, but oh no, it's "this is not good enough", "I want this", "wah, wah, wah."
Patience seems to have become a rare commodity. |
I mean, does anyone hear these sorts in real life?
Oh hang on, there's literally a middle aged twonk sitting behind me who turned up half way through the L1 promotion season who swears and cries in a pathetic febrile staccato whenever anyone doesn't do something amazing.
So no... but the societal shift is probably enflamed by bad actors and egregious enemy state troll farms. |  |
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| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 22:44 - Oct 2 with 163 views | Churchman |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 16:57 - Oct 2 by Blooos |
still rubbish tho isnt he |
It’s too early to make that sort of judgement. Players I thought were dreadful when I first saw them play and for varying times after - who then proved I had no idea and maybe the manager knew more than me::
Arnold Muhren (weak, one footed, no fitness, no shot, no tackling, ‘looks like he needed a damn good dinner’ to quote my dad)
John Wark (too small, bullied and when he broke in to the team in midfield, couldn’t pass wind)
Brian Talbot (couldn’t pass, no pace)
Ian Marshall (looked like a hod carrier with a mullet and sounded like Minnie Mouse)
Steve Whitton (looked like a travelling salesman)
Mauricio Taricco (lost)
Daryl Murphy (lump)
Omari Hutchinson
Liam Delap - saw him in a pre season friendly and thought his only attribute for the money was his size.
Excluding the long list of p£ss artists and wasters one or two I thought would be good but weren’t:
Kevin O’Callaghan (good in Escape to Victory but possibly Robson’s biggest disappointment)
Stuart Slater - so promising at West Ham. Nothing to him.
Andy Marshall
Kalvin Phillips - the most catastrophic signing (albeit on loan) just about ever for me. His inability to contribute possibly cost us any chance of being competitive, but strangely he got off light on here. | | | |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 09:28 - Oct 3 with 65 views | darkhorse28 |
You’re taking yourself WAY too seriously if you think players read this I’m and it hurts them!!
You don’t get to be toomoslyer with such fragile self esteem and self image, you’d have failed at under 9’s!
It’s a tough business. Time to put the big boy pants on and ADULT - trying to avoid scrutiny because YOU feel bad, is something different.
I’m not for singling players out…., all the examples you gave are valid criticisms…, they are players from EFL teams of the year, and have MASSIVELY failed to reach those levels.., at all.., along with many others.., including England internationals.
But it’s not their fault. They’re managed. Talent ID’d, coached, motivated, and for a long time have been way below their levels. Consistantly.
That’s the managers fault…, and that’s an elephant the nodding dog ego’s can’t process.
It’s where they put their self esteem, their whole personality, that it’s all world class, and it’s 14 months of bad form…, for every player (oddly).
We need scrutiny. Not hate. But scrutiny. Critical evaluation, and debate.
What else is a forum without discourse??
Oh yeah. An echo chamber. Where you go for validation. For people to agree you’re all right, and other people are wrong, and feel a bit better about yourself.
Which helps solve problems better?
Adult discourse, debate, discussion, listening, acknowledging you can be wrong, learn something, change your mind?
Or the echo chambers that make YOU feel safer and more secure, happier knowing you’re right because 10 other people agree with you and need the same things you do?
You’re a product of a society that can’t ADULT.
Out players (thankfully) are either much stronger or will spectacularly fail if they aren’t.
They’ll have bigger challenges in football than - some random keyboard warrior saying they aren’t very good!!
Some people even use it as fuel and motivation.., a good outcome.
Imagine that. Making someone a cup of tea not being the only way to motivate a person. Some respond to being told they aren’t good enough .., some don’t .., you and I don’t know which layers are motivated by what .., only that based on 14 months results, our management team can’t find the right buttons either.
Maybe like you .., they’re a one trick pony. | | | |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 09:51 - Oct 3 with 47 views | Swansea_Blue |
| It was Jack Clarke, then Jaden and now it’s McAteer on 16:57 - Oct 2 by Blooos |
still rubbish tho isnt he |
No, he’s really not.
We had this with Wes too. It was as tedious then as it is now. He’s settling into a new team and finding his feet. He’s obviously a half decent footballer at this level, but I suspect people think he should be the new Hutch. Let’s just see how things go. |  |
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