| Leeds and Burnley are us last season 15:41 - Nov 23 with 2293 views | bournemouthblue |
it's like groundhog day
Both teams got 100 points and look like they are sailing towards innevitabity
Edit: As I was typing this, they scored albeit ruled out through VAR |  |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 15:42 - Nov 23 with 1864 views | gainsboroughblue |
Looked offside to me before the handball. |  |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 15:55 - Nov 23 with 1783 views | DinnernotTea |
After 12 games last season we had 9 from 12 games.
Leeds 11 from 12 (if it stays 1-2)
Burnley 10 from 12
Sunderland 19 from 12
Almost identical, despite the sky sports love in for the class of 2025 promoted sides. Sunderland are doing incredible granted, but it also wouldn't shock me if they went 10 without a win. |  |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:02 - Nov 23 with 1727 views | Dubtractor |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 15:55 - Nov 23 by DinnernotTea |
After 12 games last season we had 9 from 12 games.
Leeds 11 from 12 (if it stays 1-2)
Burnley 10 from 12
Sunderland 19 from 12
Almost identical, despite the sky sports love in for the class of 2025 promoted sides. Sunderland are doing incredible granted, but it also wouldn't shock me if they went 10 without a win. |
The difference is that Leeds and Burnley got a couple of wins in the early games, before teams had worked them out, and we couldn't turns draws into wins in our equivalent games.
Leeds and Burnley show lots of endeavour, but increasingly coming out on the wrong side of margins. A familiar story to us at this point last season. |  |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:03 - Nov 23 with 1716 views | WestSussexBlue |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 15:55 - Nov 23 by DinnernotTea |
After 12 games last season we had 9 from 12 games.
Leeds 11 from 12 (if it stays 1-2)
Burnley 10 from 12
Sunderland 19 from 12
Almost identical, despite the sky sports love in for the class of 2025 promoted sides. Sunderland are doing incredible granted, but it also wouldn't shock me if they went 10 without a win. |
Both Burnley and Leeds are coming back down. I remain convinced Sunderland will also succumb In the Second half of the season, or scrape by with 2-3 points spare. | | | |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:03 - Nov 23 with 1716 views | iamatractorboy |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 15:55 - Nov 23 by DinnernotTea |
After 12 games last season we had 9 from 12 games.
Leeds 11 from 12 (if it stays 1-2)
Burnley 10 from 12
Sunderland 19 from 12
Almost identical, despite the sky sports love in for the class of 2025 promoted sides. Sunderland are doing incredible granted, but it also wouldn't shock me if they went 10 without a win. |
Sunderland have got 7 (seven) players at AFCON apparently so that will be a real test. If they come out of that the right side of 25-30 points then surely they will be fine.
Edit: I also think that Wolves are already so far behind them that it's incredibly unlikely all three promoted teams will go down. Wolves would have to overtake all three which is a really tall order at this point. [Post edited 23 Nov 16:06]
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:04 - Nov 23 with 1713 views | waveneyblue |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 15:55 - Nov 23 by DinnernotTea |
After 12 games last season we had 9 from 12 games.
Leeds 11 from 12 (if it stays 1-2)
Burnley 10 from 12
Sunderland 19 from 12
Almost identical, despite the sky sports love in for the class of 2025 promoted sides. Sunderland are doing incredible granted, but it also wouldn't shock me if they went 10 without a win. |
But they're all so much better than us, bought better, managed better etc etc etc.
These hard facts might upset a few on here.
But then again...... |  | | |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:04 - Nov 23 with 1710 views | TractorJack |
And Leeds have now got City, Chelsea then Liverpool. |  | | |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:09 - Nov 23 with 1670 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:04 - Nov 23 by TractorJack |
And Leeds have now got City, Chelsea then Liverpool. |
They may fancy Liverpool at the moment! | |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:10 - Nov 23 with 1660 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 15:42 - Nov 23 by gainsboroughblue |
Looked offside to me before the handball. |
Although this weekend has seen two of those fairly clear offsides ruled as onside thanks to the defenders' shirt sleeves. [Post edited 23 Nov 16:11]
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:11 - Nov 23 with 1656 views | ringwoodblue |
Sunderland will be fine I think but imagine the gulf in class between Wolves, Burnley, Leeds and the rest will start to show and the points gap will gradually open up. |  |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:11 - Nov 23 with 1649 views | HatStand |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:04 - Nov 23 by TractorJack |
And Leeds have now got City, Chelsea then Liverpool. |
Should get 6 points from those games | |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:15 - Nov 23 with 1630 views | bournemouthblue |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 15:55 - Nov 23 by DinnernotTea |
After 12 games last season we had 9 from 12 games.
Leeds 11 from 12 (if it stays 1-2)
Burnley 10 from 12
Sunderland 19 from 12
Almost identical, despite the sky sports love in for the class of 2025 promoted sides. Sunderland are doing incredible granted, but it also wouldn't shock me if they went 10 without a win. |
You need to get most of yours points in the first half of the season, that's always really been the case, even when it was a bit easier to stay there because sides start to work you out for the return fixtures | |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:24 - Nov 23 with 1570 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:04 - Nov 23 by waveneyblue |
But they're all so much better than us, bought better, managed better etc etc etc.
These hard facts might upset a few on here.
But then again...... |
I thought the wisdom from some on here was that Leeds were doing fantastically and are exactly how we should've done it? |  |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:28 - Nov 23 with 1553 views | bournemouthblue |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:24 - Nov 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I thought the wisdom from some on here was that Leeds were doing fantastically and are exactly how we should've done it? |
You spelt Sunderland wrong there
Leeds I would say have the most talented squad and play the most sophisticated football but seem to be suffering all the problems that we did
They still may fare better than us as the season develops but echoes very similarly to how we went | |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:43 - Nov 23 with 1474 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:28 - Nov 23 by bournemouthblue |
You spelt Sunderland wrong there
Leeds I would say have the most talented squad and play the most sophisticated football but seem to be suffering all the problems that we did
They still may fare better than us as the season develops but echoes very similarly to how we went |
People mentioned both early on. Leeds have since fallen away. That was my point. | |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:46 - Nov 23 with 1469 views | Tractor_Boy333 |
Happily see Leeds come straight back down their fans are still saying we were lucky to get promoted and are pretty annoying in general. Perhaps they can stop saying how they are a premiership team and might shit up for a while but I doubt it. [Post edited 23 Nov 21:16]
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:48 - Nov 23 with 1462 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:15 - Nov 23 by bournemouthblue |
You need to get most of yours points in the first half of the season, that's always really been the case, even when it was a bit easier to stay there because sides start to work you out for the return fixtures |
It has generally felt like that. I would be interested to see an analysis of how the points gained by promoted teams compared first half of the season to the second. I would also like to see how that compares across divisions because it hasn't felt the same in the Championship, for example. | |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:51 - Nov 23 with 1445 views | mellowblue |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:24 - Nov 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I thought the wisdom from some on here was that Leeds were doing fantastically and are exactly how we should've done it? |
ah, but that was before anyone had considered the "Farke Prem Fail Factor" that is usually worth about -20 points. | | | |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:52 - Nov 23 with 1438 views | football |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:03 - Nov 23 by WestSussexBlue |
Both Burnley and Leeds are coming back down. I remain convinced Sunderland will also succumb In the Second half of the season, or scrape by with 2-3 points spare. |
I would not be unhappy with this at all. Have no liking for Sunderland having lived in Newcastle and similarly can't stand Leeds having lived here and had to put up with their fan base - plus that would annoy Don Goodman.
Ideal scenario woudl be for Burnley to stay up at the expense of Wolves | | | |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 17:21 - Nov 23 with 1324 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:03 - Nov 23 by WestSussexBlue |
Both Burnley and Leeds are coming back down. I remain convinced Sunderland will also succumb In the Second half of the season, or scrape by with 2-3 points spare. |
I said very similar to this a few weeks ago, when some were saying how terrible we had been, with all 3 newly promoted teams having done ‘so much better than us’ (sic). I have Leeds & Burnley to really struggle, and come straight back down, but Sunderland’s incredible start has done enough for them to survive, although they will sink down the table as the season progresses. I suspect it will be more than a buffer of 2-3pts though. Even 0.67ppg from now until the end of the season would put them on 35pts.
Wolves have completely imploded, and I don’t see them breaking 30 points. | | | |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 17:29 - Nov 23 with 1292 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 16:43 - Nov 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
People mentioned both early on. Leeds have since fallen away. That was my point. |
Not really, all there preseason threads were about Sunderlands excellent looking recruitment, which sent posts like Herb into a meltdown and giving heads wobbles. |  |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 17:33 - Nov 23 with 1267 views | Blue_Heath |
All performing better than us which is why its imperative we go back up this season even if only to come down again. | |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 17:33 - Nov 23 with 1258 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 17:29 - Nov 23 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Not really, all there preseason threads were about Sunderlands excellent looking recruitment, which sent posts like Herb into a meltdown and giving heads wobbles. |
I'm not talking about preseason. I'm talking about the starts both Leeds and Sunderland had, and people saying we should've been like them. I felt people were diving in a little too soon, and so it has proved with Leeds. | |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 17:35 - Nov 23 with 1255 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 17:33 - Nov 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'm not talking about preseason. I'm talking about the starts both Leeds and Sunderland had, and people saying we should've been like them. I felt people were diving in a little too soon, and so it has proved with Leeds. |
Nonsense, you’re making it up. It was about Sunderland before and after the first game. | |
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| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 17:39 - Nov 23 with 1239 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Leeds and Burnley are us last season on 17:35 - Nov 23 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Nonsense, you’re making it up. It was about Sunderland before and after the first game. |
This thread had plenty talking about all 3 of them. [Post edited 23 Nov 17:39]
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