| If we replace McKenna... 21:50 - Dec 2 with 3516 views | baxterbasics |
Watch us sink like a stone into the lower half of the table. See it time and time again when clubs dump a previously successful manager who's going through a slump. Rarely do things get better.
Just be careful what you wish for. |  |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 22:54 - Dec 2 with 687 views | Nutkins_Return |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:03 - Dec 2 by pointofblue |
The answer is to spend even more money? Do we trust those who managed the last three windows to spend it effectively? |
Money or no money you don't just accept it do you. So yes we need to use the market. That could be loans or that could be a free Sam Morsy (just as a free example). The balance isn't right. |  |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 00:14 - Dec 3 with 643 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| If we replace McKenna... on 21:52 - Dec 2 by Swailsey |
I’d argue that a season and a half is more than a ‘slump’.
We were relegated with a squad that wasn’t good enough, have spent millions and the squad STILL isn’t good enough.
I’m not McKenna out, but if this was any other club around the country, it wouldn’t be a surprise for him to be under pressure.
We’ve been crap under him for nearly as long as we were good. |
If the squad isn't good enough then sacking McKenna wouldn't do much surely ? |  |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 00:19 - Dec 3 with 635 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:30 - Dec 2 by jasondozzell |
I can't believe I'm reading this.
You can't have everything you want all the time and immediately. In life or football.
Do you remember what it was like before the takeover? [Post edited 2 Dec 22:31]
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For the love of god stop going on about pre-takeover! Thats not what game changer are measuring themselves up against. |  |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 02:05 - Dec 3 with 591 views | brazil1981 |
We’d be a laughing stock!
He’s building a second team more or less from scratch, so yes I’m afraid it may take a season of consolidation, although I’m sure we’ll pick up in the second half of season and at least make the playoffs! I’d give him until this next year! | | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 05:58 - Dec 3 with 527 views | Juggsy |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:16 - Dec 2 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
I personally love the identity of ITFC that we give managers time. We are pretty rare in that respect, and it sets us apart from the predictable masses all over the world.
KMcK has plenty of time with me, and I'm proud that this club is different to every other club that would have binned a manager in the same circumstances. . |
On the flip side when it does go wrong we tend to spend a long time in the doldrums as a result. |  | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 06:18 - Dec 3 with 522 views | PioneerBlue |
So called football supporters have a wobble when performances dont match their expectations. There is then the departure from role of supporter to a game in the head where they believe they are the Chairman, CEO and Coaching staff all in one, knowing what decisions need to be made on and off the field of play.
Imagine what MA and KMck must be saying, those so called supporters need someone alongside them because they think they are to powerful.
Jeez. Weve reset, the only people not to have reset are those that are expecting automatic promotion at the first attempt. Remember how difficult and attritional this league is, remember it doesnt get started until Feb, remember how poor we were last season, remember how much change there was last summer, remember our Captain walked out on us, remember we couldn’t secure transfers targets until very late in the window, remember how the star dust secured last summer did a bit better than planned and triggered the escape clauses, remember it takes several seasons to rebuild and get players pointing in the same direction unless by some stroke of luck it all fits together rather more quickly, remember money only helps accelerate the player acquisition and does actually equal performance, remember thats the day job of the coaches and player not the so called supporters, remember our job is to keep turning up and getting behind the team rather than constantly moaning about not being where you expect us to be.
That is all. | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 06:27 - Dec 3 with 509 views | SufolkBlues123 |
| If we replace McKenna... on 00:14 - Dec 3 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
If the squad isn't good enough then sacking McKenna wouldn't do much surely ? |
It stems from KM unfortunately - his predictability is clear to see. The players are playing to what they are told in training which inevitably isn’t working. He’s on borrowed time, the longer people keep their rose tinted glasses on about how he brought us up to the PL, the more damage this is going to do to the club. The games we’ve looked good in have been against poor teams (eg Sheffield Utd with Selles as manager) but otherwise we’ve struggled.
With a 200m+ team, we’ve got 2 points out of a possible 9 against newly promoted teams… we looked lost against Oxford, we were played off the pitch yesterday, and don’t get me started on Charlton.
I am struggling to believe the KM rose tinted backers are happy with the way we’ve played in all games since August… | | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 08:17 - Dec 3 with 455 views | Bluemike31 |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:06 - Dec 2 by ottovonbismark |
I doubt the club has any clear plan in mind, we have to accept that compared to other clubs, Brighton, Bournemouth etc we are not a very well run football club. |
I think we are a very well run club now thanks to Ashton, the issues are on the pitch with the naff coaching. | | | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 08:27 - Dec 3 with 446 views | BrockleyBlue78 |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:22 - Dec 2 by mrfixit426 |
Plan B klaxon!
Somebody wasn't watching the final 15 mins. |
Genuine question as I’m keen to learn - what changed in the last 15 minutes? Other than personal, I didn’t see a change in formation, setup (on or off the ball), structure or approach play (other than being a little more frantic) |  | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 08:35 - Dec 3 with 425 views | jonbull88 |
| If we replace McKenna... on 21:52 - Dec 2 by Swailsey |
I’d argue that a season and a half is more than a ‘slump’.
We were relegated with a squad that wasn’t good enough, have spent millions and the squad STILL isn’t good enough.
I’m not McKenna out, but if this was any other club around the country, it wouldn’t be a surprise for him to be under pressure.
We’ve been crap under him for nearly as long as we were good. |
We weren’t ready for the premiership, everyone has acknowledged that. We got slapped pretty much every week since Christmas before we went down. It was always unlikely we were suddenly going to be winning 8-0 every week.
Teams set up differently against us this time around and it is down to Kieron to master this, which he’s not atm which is frustrating, but given the window is just 4 weeks away I expect changes. No one knows who we really wanted when we went up, we weren’t in the market for a £30-40m player, but I’d hang my hat on several of these players not being here now if we had got other targets.
For me last season was a free hit, no one expected PL football, so for me he deserves the season here. | | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 08:39 - Dec 3 with 418 views | baxterbasics |
| If we replace McKenna... on 08:35 - Dec 3 by jonbull88 |
We weren’t ready for the premiership, everyone has acknowledged that. We got slapped pretty much every week since Christmas before we went down. It was always unlikely we were suddenly going to be winning 8-0 every week.
Teams set up differently against us this time around and it is down to Kieron to master this, which he’s not atm which is frustrating, but given the window is just 4 weeks away I expect changes. No one knows who we really wanted when we went up, we weren’t in the market for a £30-40m player, but I’d hang my hat on several of these players not being here now if we had got other targets.
For me last season was a free hit, no one expected PL football, so for me he deserves the season here. |
Agree, a struggle to survive in the PL was always expected and priced in, I wouldn't count that whole season in the "slump" period - maybe just the last couple of months when things really seemed to take a dive. We were making a good fist of it for a while. | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 08:44 - Dec 3 with 400 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:02 - Dec 2 by ringwoodblue |
I don’t like the idea of sacking McKenna but I’m mystified as to why he can’t get a tune out of these players. There are so many issues with our performances in recent weeks, I honestly don’t know where to start. We are a terrible team to watch right now and the fans deserve more. [Post edited 2 Dec 22:03]
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It was only a few weeks ago we were slaughtering Swansea 4-1 away. Too many are making this a bigger thing than it is. |  |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 08:49 - Dec 3 with 398 views | Funge |
| If we replace McKenna... on 00:19 - Dec 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
For the love of god stop going on about pre-takeover! Thats not what game changer are measuring themselves up against. |
Fine point.
There are no parallels to be drawn with the previous regime. ME was a horror of an owner, no-one disputes that; this bears no relevance whatsoever to the situation we are in today.
We almost went bust under Sheepshanks - also horrible, but of no consequence to the continuing disinterested performances our privileged squad are currently producing. |  | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 09:03 - Dec 3 with 365 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| If we replace McKenna... on 06:27 - Dec 3 by SufolkBlues123 |
It stems from KM unfortunately - his predictability is clear to see. The players are playing to what they are told in training which inevitably isn’t working. He’s on borrowed time, the longer people keep their rose tinted glasses on about how he brought us up to the PL, the more damage this is going to do to the club. The games we’ve looked good in have been against poor teams (eg Sheffield Utd with Selles as manager) but otherwise we’ve struggled.
With a 200m+ team, we’ve got 2 points out of a possible 9 against newly promoted teams… we looked lost against Oxford, we were played off the pitch yesterday, and don’t get me started on Charlton.
I am struggling to believe the KM rose tinted backers are happy with the way we’ve played in all games since August… |
We didn't look lost against Oxford, we battered them and came out the wrong side as everything fell in place for them. Nearly 80% possession, 17 shots, 7 on target, 2 one-on-ones, a post hit. That wins you most games.
We also weren't "played off the pitch" yesterday.
Exaggerated nonsense, all of it. | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 09:05 - Dec 3 with 371 views | Reuser_is_God |
There is no way the powers that be are getting rid of McKenna & they’re absolutely right to take that view.
That’s not to say he doesn’t need to be doing better than he currently is though. |  |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 09:15 - Dec 3 with 350 views | BlueDouglas |
| If we replace McKenna... on 09:05 - Dec 3 by Reuser_is_God |
There is no way the powers that be are getting rid of McKenna & they’re absolutely right to take that view.
That’s not to say he doesn’t need to be doing better than he currently is though. |
The next 4 games will decide it, & if we get to Christmas without any improvement i do think we'll be looking for a new manager for the Jan transfer window, feels inevitable.
This idea that we're a club that gives managers time won't mean much to the american owners. |  | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 09:30 - Dec 3 with 329 views | MattinLondon |
| If we replace McKenna... on 09:03 - Dec 3 by The_Flashing_Smile |
We didn't look lost against Oxford, we battered them and came out the wrong side as everything fell in place for them. Nearly 80% possession, 17 shots, 7 on target, 2 one-on-ones, a post hit. That wins you most games.
We also weren't "played off the pitch" yesterday.
Exaggerated nonsense, all of it. |
No matter how you dress it up, we lost.
I have no problems with losing - you can’t be if you’re an Ipswich fan but it was yet another disjointed slow performance. And when they become the norm (which they are at the moment) that’s when you have a problem. |  | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 09:33 - Dec 3 with 324 views | jasondozzell |
| If we replace McKenna... on 02:05 - Dec 3 by brazil1981 |
We’d be a laughing stock!
He’s building a second team more or less from scratch, so yes I’m afraid it may take a season of consolidation, although I’m sure we’ll pick up in the second half of season and at least make the playoffs! I’d give him until this next year! |
Exactly this. If you look at most successful teams, they've been together for 3 years. |  | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 09:33 - Dec 3 with 324 views | Bluemike31 |
| If we replace McKenna... on 06:18 - Dec 3 by PioneerBlue |
So called football supporters have a wobble when performances dont match their expectations. There is then the departure from role of supporter to a game in the head where they believe they are the Chairman, CEO and Coaching staff all in one, knowing what decisions need to be made on and off the field of play.
Imagine what MA and KMck must be saying, those so called supporters need someone alongside them because they think they are to powerful.
Jeez. Weve reset, the only people not to have reset are those that are expecting automatic promotion at the first attempt. Remember how difficult and attritional this league is, remember it doesnt get started until Feb, remember how poor we were last season, remember how much change there was last summer, remember our Captain walked out on us, remember we couldn’t secure transfers targets until very late in the window, remember how the star dust secured last summer did a bit better than planned and triggered the escape clauses, remember it takes several seasons to rebuild and get players pointing in the same direction unless by some stroke of luck it all fits together rather more quickly, remember money only helps accelerate the player acquisition and does actually equal performance, remember thats the day job of the coaches and player not the so called supporters, remember our job is to keep turning up and getting behind the team rather than constantly moaning about not being where you expect us to be.
That is all. |
Our captain didn't walk out on us at all, we let him walk away, great decision that was. | | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 09:44 - Dec 3 with 304 views | MattinLondon |
| If we replace McKenna... on 09:33 - Dec 3 by Bluemike31 |
Our captain didn't walk out on us at all, we let him walk away, great decision that was. |
He had a bumper pay offer. The decent thing to do was to let him take it, more so considering what a great contribution he made whilst here. | | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 09:49 - Dec 3 with 299 views | itfc_bucks |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:06 - Dec 2 by ottovonbismark |
I doubt the club has any clear plan in mind, we have to accept that compared to other clubs, Brighton, Bournemouth etc we are not a very well run football club. |
Trying to work out, is this sarcasm?
Am I to be whooshed? | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 12:12 - Dec 3 with 232 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| If we replace McKenna... on 09:30 - Dec 3 by MattinLondon |
No matter how you dress it up, we lost.
I have no problems with losing - you can’t be if you’re an Ipswich fan but it was yet another disjointed slow performance. And when they become the norm (which they are at the moment) that’s when you have a problem. |
Again, (re: we lost), I've not said otherwise. I was responding to the comments "we looked lost against Oxford, we were played off the pitch yesterday," both of which are false. | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 13:34 - Dec 3 with 192 views | cressi |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:21 - Dec 2 by BrockleyBlue78 |
Mike O’Leary retired on 31 July 2024.
Look at our results since. |
Very good point | | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 13:37 - Dec 3 with 181 views | cressi |
| If we replace McKenna... on 06:27 - Dec 3 by SufolkBlues123 |
It stems from KM unfortunately - his predictability is clear to see. The players are playing to what they are told in training which inevitably isn’t working. He’s on borrowed time, the longer people keep their rose tinted glasses on about how he brought us up to the PL, the more damage this is going to do to the club. The games we’ve looked good in have been against poor teams (eg Sheffield Utd with Selles as manager) but otherwise we’ve struggled.
With a 200m+ team, we’ve got 2 points out of a possible 9 against newly promoted teams… we looked lost against Oxford, we were played off the pitch yesterday, and don’t get me started on Charlton.
I am struggling to believe the KM rose tinted backers are happy with the way we’ve played in all games since August… |
I've been disappointed since January we have been poor putting it mildly. | | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 13:40 - Dec 3 with 181 views | NthQldITFC |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:21 - Dec 2 by BrockleyBlue78 |
Mike O’Leary retired on 31 July 2024.
Look at our results since. |
Elegant centre back, but I think his legs had gone well before 2024. Mariner had him for breakfast in 1978. |  |
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