| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads 15:10 - Dec 22 with 5970 views | chicoazul |
May even wear my rainbow laces to the game. |  |
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 13:12 - Dec 23 with 1151 views | Benters |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 09:27 - Dec 23 by hunty21 |
What a knob |
I thought Morsy was alright tbh.
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 13:22 - Dec 23 with 1096 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 12:07 - Dec 23 by noggin |
So by that logic, every player that didn't take the knee is a racist? |
And we’ve literally stood there watching other teams kneeling. |  |
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 14:12 - Dec 23 with 1048 views | DJR |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 13:01 - Dec 23 by Benters |
The first pub I’d been to in England where the landlord was a Indian.
He pulled a decent pint of stout tbh.
Modern times I guess. |
Not such a recent development as you might think, and a reaction to the colour bar that once operated in pubs.
I posted this link a few weeks ago about it.
https://learn.camra.org.uk/courses/what-was-the-colour-bar
And here's a further link.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/desi-pubs [Post edited 23 Dec 14:16]
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 14:38 - Dec 23 with 1017 views | Libero |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 13:01 - Dec 23 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
The mental gymnastics around this from some fans is always puzzling.
He made his stance pretty clear when he refused to wear the armband. It was very disappointing. |
Indeed, a strong level of copium has been digested. Morsy is homophobic, that’s his perogotive. Just as it’s other people’s to find his choice distasteful. [Post edited 23 Dec 14:38]
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 14:46 - Dec 23 with 986 views | Libero |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 10:10 - Dec 23 by DJR |
Sadly, the Premier League has given up on the Rainbow Laces campaign, and the following (which I posted yesterday on another thread) shows back-tracking on the part of FIFA on this and the anti-racism front.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/12/03/world-cup-2026-fifa-needs-to-act-on-human-ri
“FIFA’s so-called peace prize is being awarded against a backdrop of violent detentions of immigrants, national guard deployments in US cities, and the obsequious cancellation of FIFA’s own anti-racism and anti-discrimination campaigns,” said Minky Worden, who oversees sport for Human Rights Watch. “There is still time to honor FIFA’s promises for a World Cup not tainted by human rights abuses, but the clock is ticking.”
Civil Rights and Anti-Discrimination
“FIFA’s decision to cancel anti-racism and anti-discrimination messaging at the Club World Cup sent a chilling signal to communities of color and all who have fought for equality in sport,” said Jamal Watkins, senior vice president of strategy and advancement, National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP). “At a time when hate crimes are rising and DEI programs are under attack, FIFA should not be retreating.”
Athletes’ Rights and LGBTQ+ Safety
“As an out athlete, I know what it means to compete in environments where you’re not sure you’ll be safe,” said Matthew Pacifici, former men’s professional player in the US and Athlete Ally ambassador. “LGBTQ+ players and fans need more than symbolic gestures—we need enforceable protections. The homophobic chants at the Club World Cup in Atlanta show exactly why FIFA’s retreat from anti-discrimination messaging is so dangerous. Players and fans must know that FIFA will protect them, not abandon them.” [Post edited 23 Dec 14:07]
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Disgusting homophobic, racist, transphobic and ableist views are on the rise and in a real casual insidious way that normalises such bigotry- FIFA obviously don’t have a backbone, just look at where the last few world cups have been and where the next couple will be too…
Easier for them and those associated to just withdraw. [Post edited 23 Dec 14:47]
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 15:48 - Dec 23 with 917 views | urbanpenguin |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 22:01 - Dec 22 by Chris_ITFC |
To you and other Wolverhampton replies - are you suggesting I meant literally a “different world”?
For those who claim to be tolerant and socially-conscious, it’s ironic that you don’t recognise (or conveniently refuse to recognise) that he could’ve still been brought up in a very different way to you, despite living in the same country. |
I still don't understand this, sorry.
He is a fully grown adult, not a child. Many people do not keep the homophobic or racist views of parents or friends from childhood, instead they read the world around them and develop empathy.
This whole "against his beliefs" and "brought up in a different way" is absurd to me. Human rights are not a "belief" and my existence is not a "belief", and how someone is brought up is not the same as who they are as a grown up. |  | | |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 15:55 - Dec 23 with 906 views | Mullet |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 17:21 - Dec 22 by Mullet |
I mean a dead Nazi is the best kind.....
I think it's really important ITFC crowds remain somewhere where racism, homophobia, etc isn't welcomed or tolerated. I know social media distorts it, makes these people braver or whatever but it needs stamping out. |
Weird support for disgusting beliefs and behaviour here Ernie- hmmmmm as the Hambo would say |  |
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 16:22 - Dec 23 with 851 views | mellowblue |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 15:48 - Dec 23 by urbanpenguin |
I still don't understand this, sorry.
He is a fully grown adult, not a child. Many people do not keep the homophobic or racist views of parents or friends from childhood, instead they read the world around them and develop empathy.
This whole "against his beliefs" and "brought up in a different way" is absurd to me. Human rights are not a "belief" and my existence is not a "belief", and how someone is brought up is not the same as who they are as a grown up. |
Being a practising moslem and the Koran being strongly against homosexuality he was put in a unenviable position. Either to be seen to support LGBT and offend his Muslim brotherhood or refuse to wear them and offend LGBT and society in general. So he is towing the Moslim line, but that may nor reflect his private views which are only known to him and close family, friends etc. I have sympathy for him. I don't think this is such a black or white situation. The Muslim religion is obviously a strong belief system, those raised on it seem to keep with it and adhere to it and it's beliefs and I have nothing against that. Even though the Koran's stance might be against my beliefs (which incidentally have had to change over the years as 50 years ago homosexuality was much frowned upon in society.) |  | | |
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 17:09 - Dec 23 with 809 views | pointofblue |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 16:22 - Dec 23 by mellowblue |
Being a practising moslem and the Koran being strongly against homosexuality he was put in a unenviable position. Either to be seen to support LGBT and offend his Muslim brotherhood or refuse to wear them and offend LGBT and society in general. So he is towing the Moslim line, but that may nor reflect his private views which are only known to him and close family, friends etc. I have sympathy for him. I don't think this is such a black or white situation. The Muslim religion is obviously a strong belief system, those raised on it seem to keep with it and adhere to it and it's beliefs and I have nothing against that. Even though the Koran's stance might be against my beliefs (which incidentally have had to change over the years as 50 years ago homosexuality was much frowned upon in society.) |
Maybe it's time for beliefs which are discriminatory and result in people being abused mentally, physically and emotionally get called out for what they are, rather than hiding behind religion to let them run free. | |
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 17:24 - Dec 23 with 784 views | NedPlimpton |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 16:22 - Dec 23 by mellowblue |
Being a practising moslem and the Koran being strongly against homosexuality he was put in a unenviable position. Either to be seen to support LGBT and offend his Muslim brotherhood or refuse to wear them and offend LGBT and society in general. So he is towing the Moslim line, but that may nor reflect his private views which are only known to him and close family, friends etc. I have sympathy for him. I don't think this is such a black or white situation. The Muslim religion is obviously a strong belief system, those raised on it seem to keep with it and adhere to it and it's beliefs and I have nothing against that. Even though the Koran's stance might be against my beliefs (which incidentally have had to change over the years as 50 years ago homosexuality was much frowned upon in society.) |
There are plenty of gay Muslims, gay-friendly mosques, and Muslim LGBTQ+ organisations across the UK and beyond
As others have said he was happy to promote gambling, so why not gay rights? I think cherry picking his views could rightly lead to questions about his personal beliefs |  | | |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 18:36 - Dec 23 with 701 views | blueoutlook |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 09:06 - Dec 23 by GlasgowBlue |
Can people please stop validating discriminatory religious beliefs that belong in the dark ages just because said person with discriminatory religious beliefs was bloody good at kicking a football for us. His decision to snub the rainbow laces campaign was a massive kick in the teeth for our LGBTQ supporters or those of us supporters who have LGBTQ family members. |
He is a footballer not a politician. He shouldn’t have to make those decisions. I fkucing hate politics in sport,ruins the game, along with threads like this. |  | | |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 18:38 - Dec 23 with 699 views | urbanpenguin |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 18:36 - Dec 23 by blueoutlook |
He is a footballer not a politician. He shouldn’t have to make those decisions. I fkucing hate politics in sport,ruins the game, along with threads like this. |
human rights are not "politics" | | | |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 19:35 - Dec 23 with 645 views | Mullet |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 18:36 - Dec 23 by blueoutlook |
He is a footballer not a politician. He shouldn’t have to make those decisions. I fkucing hate politics in sport,ruins the game, along with threads like this. |
And yet you’re here moaning.
What does being a footballer have to do with it? Are certain jobs exempt from this and why? | |
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 19:39 - Dec 23 with 627 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 18:38 - Dec 23 by urbanpenguin |
human rights are not "politics" |
They shouldn’t be, but they quite obviously are. It’s naive / ignorant to say otherwise, but I assume you just misspoke.
Does the colour of government affect the quality and extent of your human rights? Absolutely. Not to mention the country you live in / born in. | |
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 20:13 - Dec 23 with 603 views | urbanpenguin |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 19:39 - Dec 23 by Chris_ITFC |
They shouldn’t be, but they quite obviously are. It’s naive / ignorant to say otherwise, but I assume you just misspoke.
Does the colour of government affect the quality and extent of your human rights? Absolutely. Not to mention the country you live in / born in. |
No, I didn't misspeak, but thanks for the patronising reply. | | | |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 22:40 - Dec 23 with 507 views | gtsb1966 |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 08:47 - Dec 23 by Libero |
“a different world” lol - what an utterly embarrassing take, why do you feel the need to be an apologist for homophobia? Shame on you, frankly. |
I wouldn't wear rainbow laces nor would I take the knee. That doesn't make me homophobic or racist. |  | | |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 22:44 - Dec 23 with 497 views | urbanpenguin |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 22:40 - Dec 23 by gtsb1966 |
I wouldn't wear rainbow laces nor would I take the knee. That doesn't make me homophobic or racist. |
But in certain contexts, such as being the captain of a club representing the club on a day of anti-homophobia, it allows other people - especially those with knowledge of homophobia - to perceive you as homophobic.
Sure, it doesn't mean you have to consider yourself homophobic, but it doesn't preclude others thinking you are, from their experience and standpoint. | | | |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 22:55 - Dec 23 with 468 views | NedPlimpton |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 22:40 - Dec 23 by gtsb1966 |
I wouldn't wear rainbow laces nor would I take the knee. That doesn't make me homophobic or racist. |
Are you the captain of a major sports team being asked to do any of those things? If so what reason are you giving for choosing not to do those things?
If you're not and you're just making a choice not to walk around with rainbow laces on or take a knee every now and again then that's completely different, isn't it | | | |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 00:13 - Dec 24 with 406 views | Libero |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 22:40 - Dec 23 by gtsb1966 |
I wouldn't wear rainbow laces nor would I take the knee. That doesn't make me homophobic or racist. |
Firstly, you’re conflating issues with your examples-
but if I broadly take your point at face value…
If you’re in a leadership position, for an organisation that represents the local community, an organisation that claims to be against racism and homophobia and supportive to people from those specific communities, but you actively dodge the prescribed campaigns that show solidarity with those minorities, it’s fair to assume you are to some degree a little bit homophobic and racist, whatever your justification for actively avoiding these campaigns is.
As others have pointed out, there’s a whole lot of context that you’ve stripped away with your mental gymnastics. [Post edited 24 Dec 0:18]
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 00:20 - Dec 24 with 391 views | Libero |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 18:36 - Dec 23 by blueoutlook |
He is a footballer not a politician. He shouldn’t have to make those decisions. I fkucing hate politics in sport,ruins the game, along with threads like this. |
Football has been intwined with politics almost since its very inception, but this isn’t about politics.
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 00:35 - Dec 24 with 373 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 17:24 - Dec 23 by NedPlimpton |
There are plenty of gay Muslims, gay-friendly mosques, and Muslim LGBTQ+ organisations across the UK and beyond
As others have said he was happy to promote gambling, so why not gay rights? I think cherry picking his views could rightly lead to questions about his personal beliefs |
That is the fundamental flaw of Morsys position.
The Quran has pretty strong and clear views on gambling but Morsy was happy to wear that sponsor on his chest regardless on whether he agreed or not. He chose to wear it. He chose not to wear the armband. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out why. |  |
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 01:28 - Dec 24 with 331 views | bartyg |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 22:40 - Dec 23 by gtsb1966 |
I wouldn't wear rainbow laces nor would I take the knee. That doesn't make me homophobic or racist. |
Why not?
And why are you so defensive about it? You can say it doesn't but others can only judge you on your actions. |  | | |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 09:25 - Dec 24 with 238 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 00:35 - Dec 24 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
That is the fundamental flaw of Morsys position.
The Quran has pretty strong and clear views on gambling but Morsy was happy to wear that sponsor on his chest regardless on whether he agreed or not. He chose to wear it. He chose not to wear the armband. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out why. |
How do we know he was "happy to wear that sponsor on his chest"? He may have been pissed off with it but had no choice. I wasn't happy having Marcus Evans or Magical Vegas across my chest, but if I wanted to wear an Ipswich shirt I was stuck with them and it didn't mean I endorsed either of them.
Also, wearing a shirt with a gambling sponsor isn't the same as gambling. |  |
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 09:49 - Dec 24 with 209 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 09:25 - Dec 24 by The_Flashing_Smile |
How do we know he was "happy to wear that sponsor on his chest"? He may have been pissed off with it but had no choice. I wasn't happy having Marcus Evans or Magical Vegas across my chest, but if I wanted to wear an Ipswich shirt I was stuck with them and it didn't mean I endorsed either of them.
Also, wearing a shirt with a gambling sponsor isn't the same as gambling. |
“Yeah, but wearing rainbow laces isn’t the same as…” | |
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| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 10:10 - Dec 24 with 372 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Suddenly excited about Bristol at home lads on 09:49 - Dec 24 by Chris_ITFC |
“Yeah, but wearing rainbow laces isn’t the same as…” |
You can't be this thick surely? Wearing rainbow laces is a choice and a statement. Not remotely similar to wearing your work uniform that happens to have a betting sponsor on it. | |
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