| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now 15:30 - Jan 5 with 9563 views | Mullet |
No idea if this user is legit, but does seem like people have been mentioning it for a week or more now. |  |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:31 - Jan 5 with 6267 views | Chris_ITFC |
Things that make a lot of sense usually make a lot of sense for a reason.
That would make a lot of sense. |  |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:34 - Jan 5 with 6211 views | Linners |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:31 - Jan 5 by Chris_ITFC |
Things that make a lot of sense usually make a lot of sense for a reason.
That would make a lot of sense. |
Only a loan though surely - unless they've got £10m knocking around?
(I wouldn't let him go btw) |  | | |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:36 - Jan 5 with 6152 views | homer_123 |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:34 - Jan 5 by Linners |
Only a loan though surely - unless they've got £10m knocking around?
(I wouldn't let him go btw) |
We are going to have to make room for incomings.
I like Sammie to be honest, he's got guile and a really good work ethic, not sure why it hasn't worked for him here but I can see why he might me heading out the door. |  |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:37 - Jan 5 with 6140 views | _CliveBaker_ |
I would be tempted to sell him, provided it was £5m+. He's not getting any younger and I can't see him being worth more in the future than he is today. Doesn't really fit our system, struggled with injuries a little bit too. Felt an odd signing at the time tbh a player of his profile and hasn't really worked out, especially for the money involved and with limited resale value. I'd be tempted to rip the plaster off and move on, we've got better options. |  | | |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:38 - Jan 5 with 6104 views | Herbivore |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:34 - Jan 5 by Linners |
Only a loan though surely - unless they've got £10m knocking around?
(I wouldn't let him go btw) |
He's not worth £10m. If we can get £3m for him that'd be a decent return given his age and recent injury record. |  |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:39 - Jan 5 with 6088 views | Linners |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:36 - Jan 5 by homer_123 |
We are going to have to make room for incomings.
I like Sammie to be honest, he's got guile and a really good work ethic, not sure why it hasn't worked for him here but I can see why he might me heading out the door. |
I could really see him getting 10 goals in the last 20 games of the season though although I do get the point about numbers. | | | |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:39 - Jan 5 with 6075 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:36 - Jan 5 by homer_123 |
We are going to have to make room for incomings.
I like Sammie to be honest, he's got guile and a really good work ethic, not sure why it hasn't worked for him here but I can see why he might me heading out the door. |
I still like him. He’s like a Jack Taylor - he won’t always be the right tool for the job, but he’s different to everyone else in the squad. You could see that when he came on at Leicester - he brings some bite, some chaos, some drive.
It’s probably why those pair of tools get on so well.  | |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:40 - Jan 5 with 6035 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:37 - Jan 5 by _CliveBaker_ |
I would be tempted to sell him, provided it was £5m+. He's not getting any younger and I can't see him being worth more in the future than he is today. Doesn't really fit our system, struggled with injuries a little bit too. Felt an odd signing at the time tbh a player of his profile and hasn't really worked out, especially for the money involved and with limited resale value. I'd be tempted to rip the plaster off and move on, we've got better options. |
“Struggled with injuries a little bit”
I think that’s bit of an understatement! |  |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:42 - Jan 5 with 5977 views | Mullet |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:37 - Jan 5 by _CliveBaker_ |
I would be tempted to sell him, provided it was £5m+. He's not getting any younger and I can't see him being worth more in the future than he is today. Doesn't really fit our system, struggled with injuries a little bit too. Felt an odd signing at the time tbh a player of his profile and hasn't really worked out, especially for the money involved and with limited resale value. I'd be tempted to rip the plaster off and move on, we've got better options. |
Depends how much damage has been done behind the scenes. Certainly been a frustration we’ve not made him or Akpom work this season when both are far too talented to have produced so little.
I’d definitely cash in on him even if it’s installments and add ons etc. | |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:49 - Jan 5 with 5795 views | SomethingBlue |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:37 - Jan 5 by _CliveBaker_ |
I would be tempted to sell him, provided it was £5m+. He's not getting any younger and I can't see him being worth more in the future than he is today. Doesn't really fit our system, struggled with injuries a little bit too. Felt an odd signing at the time tbh a player of his profile and hasn't really worked out, especially for the money involved and with limited resale value. I'd be tempted to rip the plaster off and move on, we've got better options. |
Yep, if it frees up a spot to upgrade in that or another position then he feels like one we can move on from. |  |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 16:03 - Jan 5 with 5535 views | chicoazul |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:36 - Jan 5 by homer_123 |
We are going to have to make room for incomings.
I like Sammie to be honest, he's got guile and a really good work ethic, not sure why it hasn't worked for him here but I can see why he might me heading out the door. |
Always such a weird signing. Doesn’t fit how we play and clearly not good enough for the Prem. |  |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 16:12 - Jan 5 with 5371 views | Illinoisblue |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:40 - Jan 5 by Reuser_is_God |
“Struggled with injuries a little bit”
I think that’s bit of an understatement! |
Injuries AND illness |  |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 16:31 - Jan 5 with 5117 views | itfcsuth |
Can see it happening, don’t know what sort of hit we’ll have to take on him.
Produced some moments in the PL, none better than going 1-0 at City.
You just know full well he’ll go somewhere fully fit and starting racking up the goals. |  | | |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 17:39 - Jan 5 with 4377 views | tetchris |
Think we defo got screwed over on a few transfer fees due to panic and not having a decent recruitment network set up prior to getting in PL. Be lucky to get anywhere near what we paid for Szmodics and Ogbene. How long will Greaves want to stay sitting on the bench unless we get back to PL? | | | |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 17:48 - Jan 5 with 4236 views | football |
Can they afford him? | | | |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 17:54 - Jan 5 with 4158 views | Plums |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 17:39 - Jan 5 by tetchris |
Think we defo got screwed over on a few transfer fees due to panic and not having a decent recruitment network set up prior to getting in PL. Be lucky to get anywhere near what we paid for Szmodics and Ogbene. How long will Greaves want to stay sitting on the bench unless we get back to PL? |
The protracted nature of the transfer would suggest the Szmodics purchase was anything but a panic. We wanted him and he wanted to come, the issue was Blackburn. If we were in panic mode, we'd have gone elsewhere.
Sammie's a good player but sadly it doesn't seem to have worked out which is a shame for everyone concerned with the possible exception of Venkys. |  |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 18:15 - Jan 5 with 3908 views | OldFart71 |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 17:39 - Jan 5 by tetchris |
Think we defo got screwed over on a few transfer fees due to panic and not having a decent recruitment network set up prior to getting in PL. Be lucky to get anywhere near what we paid for Szmodics and Ogbene. How long will Greaves want to stay sitting on the bench unless we get back to PL? |
I think you could say that about several players. But not everyone is good enough or adapts. We all frowned when Delap weny for £30 million, but injuries apart he's done little. Hutchinson has only now started to show what he achieved with us, but Philogene is a better player as he's two footed.
Leif is great going forward, but not as good as Greaves defensive wise and maybe Leif wasn't 100% fit in the Prem, but we struggled when attacked down his side.
Things will obviously change depending on where we finish.
Maybe KM goes to another club, but whether that is due to offers coming in or Gamechanger wanting a change if we don't get promoted who knows. Lots of water under the bridge between now and the end of the season. | | | |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 18:25 - Jan 5 with 3799 views | GlasgowBlue |
Gutted if true. |  |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 18:53 - Jan 5 with 3577 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 16:03 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
Always such a weird signing. Doesn’t fit how we play and clearly not good enough for the Prem. |
Not sure how you can believe both of those. He scored 4 goals in 13 starts mainly from the wing and his injury absence coincided with our nosedive in form. If he isn't right for our system, that's a pretty healthy Premier League return or it shows he was much better suited than the other less effective players (Hutchinson included).
I get the injury record and his age are the problem for Szmodics. |  |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 20:20 - Jan 5 with 3005 views | darkhorse28 |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 15:38 - Jan 5 by Herbivore |
He's not worth £10m. If we can get £3m for him that'd be a decent return given his age and recent injury record. |
Fair assessment. It’s not a decent return though, we can’t keep signing players for £10-15 million and sell them for £3 million.
He’s systemic of a serious talent ID failure at the club.., if we don’t get value, we can’t be successful long term.
Muric, Greaves, Ogbenne, McAteer, Akpom if we have to sign him, Sammie, Azon if we have to sign him, there’s about £80 million plus of player inventory, worth less than half of that.
Succesful clubs at the level above are signing £10 million players and selling them to the best clubs in Europe a year later for £50 million.
Bournemouth have now sold four in one and half windows, and will still stay up, Brentford the same, and Brighton etc etc
No succesful club does what we do, throw money at it and miss more often then not.
Promotion this season will paper over the PSR, but it won’t solve the problem.
Thats what elite is, and the standards we compete with. | | | |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 20:36 - Jan 5 with 2845 views | Herbivore |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 20:20 - Jan 5 by darkhorse28 |
Fair assessment. It’s not a decent return though, we can’t keep signing players for £10-15 million and sell them for £3 million.
He’s systemic of a serious talent ID failure at the club.., if we don’t get value, we can’t be successful long term.
Muric, Greaves, Ogbenne, McAteer, Akpom if we have to sign him, Sammie, Azon if we have to sign him, there’s about £80 million plus of player inventory, worth less than half of that.
Succesful clubs at the level above are signing £10 million players and selling them to the best clubs in Europe a year later for £50 million.
Bournemouth have now sold four in one and half windows, and will still stay up, Brentford the same, and Brighton etc etc
No succesful club does what we do, throw money at it and miss more often then not.
Promotion this season will paper over the PSR, but it won’t solve the problem.
Thats what elite is, and the standards we compete with. |
Szmodics at his age was never going to be a player we signed to make a profit on. We'll pretty much break even on Muric. The rest you're speculating on really. And we sold two players in the summer for pretty much double what we paid for them so it's not all doom and gloom on the transfer profit front. | |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 20:44 - Jan 5 with 2791 views | backwaywhen |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 16:31 - Jan 5 by itfcsuth |
Can see it happening, don’t know what sort of hit we’ll have to take on him.
Produced some moments in the PL, none better than going 1-0 at City.
You just know full well he’ll go somewhere fully fit and starting racking up the goals. |
I would say his goal at Spurs ….class finish . | | | |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 20:48 - Jan 5 with 2768 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 20:36 - Jan 5 by Herbivore |
Szmodics at his age was never going to be a player we signed to make a profit on. We'll pretty much break even on Muric. The rest you're speculating on really. And we sold two players in the summer for pretty much double what we paid for them so it's not all doom and gloom on the transfer profit front. |
The fact you have full agreement from DarkHorse tells you all you need to know about the accuracy of your £3M valuation of Szmodics. We will be looking for a lot more than that. | |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 20:51 - Jan 5 with 2730 views | ArnieM |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 20:20 - Jan 5 by darkhorse28 |
Fair assessment. It’s not a decent return though, we can’t keep signing players for £10-15 million and sell them for £3 million.
He’s systemic of a serious talent ID failure at the club.., if we don’t get value, we can’t be successful long term.
Muric, Greaves, Ogbenne, McAteer, Akpom if we have to sign him, Sammie, Azon if we have to sign him, there’s about £80 million plus of player inventory, worth less than half of that.
Succesful clubs at the level above are signing £10 million players and selling them to the best clubs in Europe a year later for £50 million.
Bournemouth have now sold four in one and half windows, and will still stay up, Brentford the same, and Brighton etc etc
No succesful club does what we do, throw money at it and miss more often then not.
Promotion this season will paper over the PSR, but it won’t solve the problem.
Thats what elite is, and the standards we compete with. |
Its poor recruitment from us however people want to view it. Whatever happened to this data matrix thing Ashton is supposed to be using to ID players who will be the "right fit"? Yes, its to be expected that both all signingscwill done off. But we seem to be lashing out a lot of money on average players, or pkaywrs, who as soon as they pull on a Town shirt, becoming underperforming players. I realise thus development at the club is an ongoing process, but it does appear to be wasting an awful lot of money along the way. I just hope the owners keep faith with Ashton / Mckenna in this " project". |  |
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| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 20:53 - Jan 5 with 2471 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Szmodics to Derby rumour making its way out now on 20:51 - Jan 5 by ArnieM |
Its poor recruitment from us however people want to view it. Whatever happened to this data matrix thing Ashton is supposed to be using to ID players who will be the "right fit"? Yes, its to be expected that both all signingscwill done off. But we seem to be lashing out a lot of money on average players, or pkaywrs, who as soon as they pull on a Town shirt, becoming underperforming players. I realise thus development at the club is an ongoing process, but it does appear to be wasting an awful lot of money along the way. I just hope the owners keep faith with Ashton / Mckenna in this " project". |
It's still very impressive that McKenna can have those average players challenging for automatic promotion, though, isn't it? | |
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