| If we go up. 19:07 - Jan 6 with 3056 views | MK1 |
McKenna stays, right? Would he take the Palace job if as widely believed that Glasner will be Man Utd's next permanent manager? (His contract is up in the summer) |  |
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| If we go up. on 19:10 - Jan 6 with 2538 views | PhilsAngels |
and the right job becomes available I think Kieran will go this time, 3 promotions, 2 to the prem. Don't want him to, but think he will |  | | |
| If we go up. on 19:12 - Jan 6 with 2503 views | MK1 |
| If we go up. on 19:10 - Jan 6 by PhilsAngels |
and the right job becomes available I think Kieran will go this time, 3 promotions, 2 to the prem. Don't want him to, but think he will |
Is Palace the right job? | |
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| If we go up. on 19:21 - Jan 6 with 2421 views | SitfcB |
I’m not so sure.
Man Utd and Celtic will come calling I think.
Palace if Utd get Glasner, but I reckon Palace will want to get him signed up before the summer. |  |
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| If we go up. on 19:27 - Jan 6 with 2385 views | J2BLUE |
50/50 IMO.
His stock would likely be highest following promotion. I'm quite relaxed about it. Would love him to stay but if he takes us up and then leaves he leaves as a Town legend. At some point we need to stop worrying about him leaving and enjoy it while he's here. |  |
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| If we go up. on 19:31 - Jan 6 with 2363 views | Churchman |
I believe he will go between now and June regardless of whether he gets offered the Palace job. If CP does come in for him, he’d be foolish not to take it as it looks to me like a perfect next step.
When he sadly goes, it’ll be with my thanks. He’s given us some great times, good football, always interesting and will be a very hard act to follow. |  | | |
| If we go up. on 20:54 - Jan 6 with 2086 views | bluesbrothers |
Think he’ll realise it’s best for him to move on this time. Given he agree to palace and then U turned previously, and we know Glasner will go, I’d have it odds on he ends up there | | | |
| He'll be gone.... on 20:56 - Jan 6 with 2071 views | Bloots |
....whether we go up or not.
Which will be fair enough. |  |
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| If we go up. on 21:02 - Jan 6 with 2025 views | IndependentlyBlue |
Also the chance that if Martin O’Neill sorts out the sh*tshow at Parkhead by the end of this season, KMK could go there. Particularly if we don’t go up.
Good stepping stone, with European football of some sort guaranteed, huge fan base, almost certain silverware of some sort every season.
Not saying anything other than it’s a possibility… |  |
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| If we go up. on 21:03 - Jan 6 with 2023 views | jasondozzell |
I think a lot of support still underestimates how highly rated he is. He's one of the best young coaches in world football. And he's ours!
I am in two minds too. Think if we go up (even if we don't!) he will have offers in the summer.
If United or Spurs ask him he's gone. Potentially a Palace type if the project is good.
But... We are set up for him and he's got great chance here to push us on once up
Again I think a lot of our support underestimates how ambitious the yanks are.
I really hope he stays until 2031. Establishes us back in Europe and then goes to United... That would be all right wouldn't it! |  | | |
| If we go up. on 21:07 - Jan 6 with 1984 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
There's the potential for a lot of PL vacancies to open up this summer - obviously we know about Man U, Palace will most likely need a new manager, I wouldn't be surprised if Frank leaves Spurs, same for Dyche at Forest, Iraola could leave Bournemouth, Hurzeler is bumbling along at Brighton. And who knows what will happen at Chelsea. It will be easier to swallow if he is able to take us into the PL again before he goes. | | | |
| If we go up. on 21:12 - Jan 6 with 1957 views | SomethingBlue |
Let's see – wouldn't blame him for thinking he'd done all he could here, doesn't exactly look thrilled with the vibes a winning team is getting at the moment. | |
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| If we go up. on 11:36 - Jan 7 with 1437 views | darkhorse28 |
At £5 million a year, paid more than any of those clubs pay managers, are we honestly saying we couldn’t get a genuinely world class manager, assuming we’re in the prem.
There are managers available like Pereira who schooled McKenna last season, have won trophies all over the world, and been successful in too divisions, at an elite level, something McKenna has never done.
It’s not a threat. See it as an opportunity. There a risk Ashton messes up, but with the resources, getting an upgrade wouldn’t be difficult.
I don’t even think this group are all that close at the minute either they’ll have been together 12 months, so it wouldn’t be a massive step change if we retain the style of play.
We need to be more like Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford, and build a club independent of individuals, we are miles off doing that.
I don’t see how we compete with them and stay in the prem, without that structure.
Brighton aren’t bemoaning not signing McKenna, or any manager, they get a coach to slot in, and develop the world class players they sign for £10 million each.., we’re light years away from that.
Ashton won’t allow that, he wanted a club built around him, and sadly, that’s what we’ve got.
It’s not elite.., could work, but it’s very high risk.
Brentford, they’ve lost far better managers than McKenna and improved, that’s the model, th club comes before individuals. | | | |
| If we go up. on 11:43 - Jan 7 with 1405 views | BseaBlue |
I think he might have learned his lessons from saying no before to be honest. Palace went on to win the FA cup and Brighton have further established themselves as a premier side whilst we ended up going down.
Either way, if he does go then you can't say he hasn't earned the opportunity to further his career. He has completely turned this club around. |  | | |
| If we go up. on 11:52 - Jan 7 with 1350 views | _CliveBaker_ |
United get an interim until the end of the season.
Glasner to United in the summer
McKenna to Palace
Allardyce to Town
Def info |  | | |
| If we go up. on 11:59 - Jan 7 with 1291 views | jas0999 |
No, I think he goes. Suspect there will be part of him who will look at what happened before and how his stock fell. It would be, for him, a perfect time to move on - providing we get promoted of course! | | | |
| If we go up. on 12:03 - Jan 7 with 1269 views | Smoresy |
My guess would be he leaves, if the opportunity presents itself to join a club that's been in the division for a good numbers of years. Parker and Farke developed early reputations as EFL specialists following PL struggles, which I suspect he'd be keen to avoid. Let's face it, he isn't going to be swayed by crowd support this season either.
My guess would also be that said opportunity arises, but I'm less confident of this than I am of him accepting. If we go up and it's through the playoffs, finishing outside the top two could easily place him lower in any shortlists. | | | |
| If we go up. on 12:41 - Jan 7 with 1072 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| If we go up. on 20:54 - Jan 6 by bluesbrothers |
Think he’ll realise it’s best for him to move on this time. Given he agree to palace and then U turned previously, and we know Glasner will go, I’d have it odds on he ends up there |
Do we know Glasner will go? How many more ~2-year stints at Man United followed by a sacking and no good jobs do there need to be before smart managers recognise that place is an irreparable shitshow these days? [Post edited 7 Jan 12:42]
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| If we go up. on 13:07 - Jan 7 with 980 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| If we go up. on 21:02 - Jan 6 by IndependentlyBlue |
Also the chance that if Martin O’Neill sorts out the sh*tshow at Parkhead by the end of this season, KMK could go there. Particularly if we don’t go up.
Good stepping stone, with European football of some sort guaranteed, huge fan base, almost certain silverware of some sort every season.
Not saying anything other than it’s a possibility… |
He’s too elite, too expensive, and too ambitious for Celtic I would think.
If, as suggested he doesn’t like our fans reaction to the expectation this season then he certainly wouldn’t enjoy Glasgow…
Palace is a logical stepping stone, United is obviously his end game but it will be sad to see him swallowed up into the managerial graveyard that is old Trafford! | | | |
| If we go up. on 13:50 - Jan 7 with 869 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| If we go up. on 13:07 - Jan 7 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
He’s too elite, too expensive, and too ambitious for Celtic I would think.
If, as suggested he doesn’t like our fans reaction to the expectation this season then he certainly wouldn’t enjoy Glasgow…
Palace is a logical stepping stone, United is obviously his end game but it will be sad to see him swallowed up into the managerial graveyard that is old Trafford! |
Yep think he goes to one of the middle pack in the PL, probably in the Summer.
It'll be fascinating to see who we replace him with. | | | |
| If we go up. on 13:57 - Jan 7 with 833 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Manchester United are the team to watch for Mckenna once again. A lot of the top journos around Manchester and beyond, including Ornstein, have said time and time again that Mckenna is so highly thought of at the club, he has the United DNA that they like.
If Ole gets the job until the end of the season I would not be shocked to see them move to Mckenna in the summer, a job he would obviously take. |  |
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| If we go up. on 13:58 - Jan 7 with 824 views | tractorboy1978 |
| If we go up. on 21:12 - Jan 6 by SomethingBlue |
Let's see – wouldn't blame him for thinking he'd done all he could here, doesn't exactly look thrilled with the vibes a winning team is getting at the moment. |
Doesn't logically seem to me that Palace is more appealing than the last time he turned them down though? We are in a far stronger place and Palace arguably have a weaker squad than they did then (with Guehi/Wharton soon to be off too). | | | |
| If we go up. on 14:13 - Jan 7 with 769 views | Churchman |
| If we go up. on 11:36 - Jan 7 by darkhorse28 |
At £5 million a year, paid more than any of those clubs pay managers, are we honestly saying we couldn’t get a genuinely world class manager, assuming we’re in the prem.
There are managers available like Pereira who schooled McKenna last season, have won trophies all over the world, and been successful in too divisions, at an elite level, something McKenna has never done.
It’s not a threat. See it as an opportunity. There a risk Ashton messes up, but with the resources, getting an upgrade wouldn’t be difficult.
I don’t even think this group are all that close at the minute either they’ll have been together 12 months, so it wouldn’t be a massive step change if we retain the style of play.
We need to be more like Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford, and build a club independent of individuals, we are miles off doing that.
I don’t see how we compete with them and stay in the prem, without that structure.
Brighton aren’t bemoaning not signing McKenna, or any manager, they get a coach to slot in, and develop the world class players they sign for £10 million each.., we’re light years away from that.
Ashton won’t allow that, he wanted a club built around him, and sadly, that’s what we’ve got.
It’s not elite.., could work, but it’s very high risk.
Brentford, they’ve lost far better managers than McKenna and improved, that’s the model, th club comes before individuals. |
Ok I’ll bite.
It’s not about getting a ‘world class manager’. It’s about getting somebody to fit with what the club is trying to do. Managers operate differently at different clubs.
Please list the managers who are available. Waving Pereira around puzzles me - he was sacked because this season his woeful team didn’t come close to winning a game.
Please provide a list of the available managers who would be an ‘upgrade’ for Ipswich Town
This group of players have not been together 12 months. Some of the players were here but essentially it was a new team when the transfer window ended - in other words 4 months 7 days.
The owners and much of the investment into this club has been to build structures independent of individuals. Prior to Gamechanger it was a manager doing the first team, a few others doing their best with a bloated, hapless squad, a rotted out youth system and Lee O’Neill hobbling around doing literally everything else with a broom up the whizzway to sweep the floor. No wonder the ground was filthy.
We started in 2021 with nothing. Yes, in building take lessons from Brighton and others but do it our way because we have that opportunity. Last season shone a light on where we had shortcomings and there were plenty. Lots of mistakes too, but in building something as complex as a professional football club developments are not always going to take place in parallel. It’s the same with any programme of projects. You will get successes and areas to work on. It’s how it is because the magic wand shop doesn’t exist beyond Harry Potter.
A coach who is there and told how to play and who to play and is also there to take the blame is the way Man U, Chelsea and Spurs do it. Not working too well. Brentford and co? The way they’ve done has worked but most of them bounced between the divisions before they had sufficient strength to truly compete. Clubs do not all operating the same way these days which is why taking the best from each and saying yes or no to the bits that don’t fit is the way forward.
The way ITFC has tried to do it is in my view the right way. The club is not built around Ashton. It’s the opposite. It is different components overseen by Ashton as CEO and ultimately the owners to whom he is accountable. If they feel he isn’t doing it, he will be gone in a moment and the club will still operate much as before. And the Americans won’t mess about in firing him either.
McKenna manages in a more traditional manner because he is at a club that allows him to do it. We are told he approves the signing of the players so he is rightly accountable. I see no problem with that and it’s served us well to date.
We failed last year because the team outgrew the pace the club was growing at and we were well short in bridging the quality gap with the smallest budget. Was our recruitment right? No, clearly not. Could it have been done better? Of course. But it was not for the want of trying and should we succeed this year I’d hope we would avoid the mistakes made.
Lastly, have you anything positive to say about the club that 5 years ago was mouldering in League One with windbag Lambert and no future? Just one thing. Maybe you like the club badge, Matt Holland’s snappy new haircut or the mascots (if you’ve ever seen them). Just one thing. It would be nice. | | | |
| If we go up. on 14:14 - Jan 7 with 769 views | Metal_Hacker |
"If"?
When ! |  |
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| If we go up. on 14:16 - Jan 7 with 763 views | NedPlimpton |
| If we go up. on 19:12 - Jan 6 by MK1 |
Is Palace the right job? |
Why wouldn't it be? Established PL team with European football |  | | |
| If we go up. on 14:18 - Jan 7 with 750 views | jasondozzell |
| If we go up. on 13:57 - Jan 7 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Manchester United are the team to watch for Mckenna once again. A lot of the top journos around Manchester and beyond, including Ornstein, have said time and time again that Mckenna is so highly thought of at the club, he has the United DNA that they like.
If Ole gets the job until the end of the season I would not be shocked to see them move to Mckenna in the summer, a job he would obviously take. |
Completely agree with this take. It's always been the one.
As I said earlier, I still don't think a lot of Town support realise how highly thought of he is there. They very reluctantly let him go when he came down here.
I really want him to stay at manage us in the PL for the next decade but he has to do what is right for him.
If I was at United I would be jumping up and down to let them know he's the obvious choice for them. He always was.
If he's asked he goes. I would wish him nothing but success there. Losing him to United would be easier than to Palace or Brighton etc.
I really really hope he stays. We're so lucky to have him.
For what it's worth, I think he'd be a huge success at United playing attacking football in their tradition. | | | |
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