| Egeli 10:06 - Feb 8 with 1764 views | FrimleyBlue |
Seeing mcateers excellent appearance and how he and burns give us our right side nicely balanced between them.
It does pose the question on what do we do with egeli...
We've got two 10s already. KM has never given him a go uptop. But we dont miss egeli when hes not on the right..
I know we spent a lot of money on him... but would it be so wrong to have him with the u21s for the remainder of season and then on loan somewhere next season?
Hes got that future potential but I cant see where he fits into the side this season. |  |
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| Egeli on 10:09 - Feb 8 with 1616 views | billlm |
Difficult one,
He's certainly no right winger he stagnates us and he's to predictable,
A lot of money spent on him,
I can see where your coming from because if we go up how are you supposed to develop him in the toughest league in the world, |  | | |
| Egeli on 10:11 - Feb 8 with 1602 views | chicoazul |
Frimmers this is not a dig at you per se but it consistently amazes me that people here write new players off when they have a dip, drop out of the side, get benched etc
Specifically with Egeli he is a young player new to the league who has shown flashes and has for now been overtaken by a couple of senior players, this is exactly what is to be expected in his situation and is an example of the system working as it should, so why in earth would we send him on loan to I dunno Colchester or somewhere or stick him in the u21s? Why would this even be a consideration? |  |
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| Egeli on 10:13 - Feb 8 with 1574 views | franz_tyson |
Personally, I thought it could be an option to loan him out for the rest of the season. Maybe to his previous club in Scandinavia where he would feel at home. I just worry about this lad because I can't see how he can benefit us down the right and if he wants to be a 10 he's not going to get past Nunez or Mehmeti or, even, Akpom.
Things can change quickly. Maybe Wes picks up an injury and he gets another shot down the right, but he looks so ineffective on the wing and he can't keep on cutting back in all the time. |  | | |
| Egeli on 10:13 - Feb 8 with 1569 views | farkenhell |
He won't join the U21s and there's no need for that. There'll be plenty of opportunities for him during the rest of this season, with injury (eg Burns had to come off yesterday), loss of form or simple rotation to keep players fresh. I expect he will start next weekend to keep up his match fitness. | | | |
| Egeli on 10:15 - Feb 8 with 1544 views | _CliveBaker_ |
We don’t have to do anything. Appreciate where you’re coming from but it’s Ipswich Town FC, not Egeli Town FC, we pick the team that’s most likely to get us over the line for the next 16 games. It’s as simple as that. His development can take a back seat, there’s no balance to be had right now, it’s eyes on the prize. |  | | |
| Egeli on 10:17 - Feb 8 with 1512 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Egeli on 10:11 - Feb 8 by chicoazul |
Frimmers this is not a dig at you per se but it consistently amazes me that people here write new players off when they have a dip, drop out of the side, get benched etc
Specifically with Egeli he is a young player new to the league who has shown flashes and has for now been overtaken by a couple of senior players, this is exactly what is to be expected in his situation and is an example of the system working as it should, so why in earth would we send him on loan to I dunno Colchester or somewhere or stick him in the u21s? Why would this even be a consideration? |
The issue is youre seeing it as writing someone off. Its not.
Ive said from day one hes gonna be a star. But imo hes regressed on our right. Its not so much a dip as he was never great on the right to begin with. But I guess me saying regress is a dip lol.
Its one thing doing that role abroad. But for us with league we are in. The types of games we play it just doesnt work. That doesnt however mean hes lost his talents and certainly doesnt mean im writing him off as a player. But simply the role he played abroad isnt suitable for what we do and what we require.
In regards to the loan. I wouldnt say Colchester no. But a mid champ side looking for perhaps a 10 to develop him centrally perhaps. Something next season like a bristol. | |
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| Egeli on 10:23 - Feb 8 with 1445 views | farkenhell |
| Egeli on 10:15 - Feb 8 by _CliveBaker_ |
We don’t have to do anything. Appreciate where you’re coming from but it’s Ipswich Town FC, not Egeli Town FC, we pick the team that’s most likely to get us over the line for the next 16 games. It’s as simple as that. His development can take a back seat, there’s no balance to be had right now, it’s eyes on the prize. |
Also he'll still be developing by training day in, day out with the 1st team squad. | | | |
| Egeli on 10:26 - Feb 8 with 1414 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Egeli on 10:17 - Feb 8 by FrimleyBlue |
The issue is youre seeing it as writing someone off. Its not.
Ive said from day one hes gonna be a star. But imo hes regressed on our right. Its not so much a dip as he was never great on the right to begin with. But I guess me saying regress is a dip lol.
Its one thing doing that role abroad. But for us with league we are in. The types of games we play it just doesnt work. That doesnt however mean hes lost his talents and certainly doesnt mean im writing him off as a player. But simply the role he played abroad isnt suitable for what we do and what we require.
In regards to the loan. I wouldnt say Colchester no. But a mid champ side looking for perhaps a 10 to develop him centrally perhaps. Something next season like a bristol. |
That’s not a call to make in February. 6 months is a hell of a long time in football, not least the fact we don’t know what level we’ll be playing at next season or how future recruitment will shape up. I doubt it’s even a consideration right now. | | | |
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| Egeli on 10:26 - Feb 8 with 1408 views | BouncebackIpswich |
I think we'll keep him around as a rotation option but for the rest of the season his role will shift from first choice to back up and the coaches will be putting serious work on varying his game.
Kind of like what happened with macateer he barely got on the field for a good few months and that time has been put to good use on the training ground |  | | |
| Egeli on 10:29 - Feb 8 with 1380 views | TIB |
Worst thing you could do right now is dropping him to u21’s, we’ve seen McAteer respond after potential friction in camp, Egeli may respond too.
Let’s also not forget, he’s a young lad, who’s still developing physically, mentally, and professionally, who’s relocated abroad to play, in arguably, the toughest league in the world. Give him time, we’ve seen how long it took likes of Matusiwa and Azon to get up to speed. |  |
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| Egeli on 11:06 - Feb 8 with 1233 views | Smoresy |
Plain wrong imo. Far better he finds his favourite seat on the bench than relegate him to the U21s. I'm certain he's the opposite of a divisive or lazy character and so there's just no need to do it; we already have a spare space in the event your man Sterling gets bored aha.
Hopefully he still sees minutes when comfortably ahead in the odd game, but either way I'm glad that desperate phase appears over of needing performances from him. He was signed with the confidence he'd make a big splash this season, I have little doubt of that, but also with provision for him to not settle so quickly.
Pre-season is a great time to consider the second part of your question. | | | |
| Egeli on 11:06 - Feb 8 with 1232 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
How many wingers have we seen who have dramatically improved under KM and his coaching team?
There have been plenty writing off Philogene, Clarke and McAteer, and yet slowly we see the upturn and improvement with these players as they put in the hard work. We have no reason to doubt Walle Egeli won't improve in exactly the same way, if he applies himself.
I see no reason why he won't continue to play off the bench or even start some matches going forward, given how KM likes to rotate players. We also could go on a cup run, so he will get games.
Look how 'not getting games' is starting to pay off with McAteer. [Post edited 8 Feb 16:22]
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| Egeli on 11:51 - Feb 8 with 1052 views | IndependentlyBlue |
| Egeli on 11:06 - Feb 8 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
How many wingers have we seen who have dramatically improved under KM and his coaching team?
There have been plenty writing off Philogene, Clarke and McAteer, and yet slowly we see the upturn and improvement with these players as they put in the hard work. We have no reason to doubt Walle Egeli won't improve in exactly the same way, if he applies himself.
I see no reason why he won't continue to play off the bench or even start some matches going forward, given how KM likes to rotate players. We also could go on a cup run, so he will get games.
Look how 'not getting games' is starting to pay off with McAteer. [Post edited 8 Feb 16:22]
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| Egeli on 11:53 - Feb 8 with 1019 views | Mullet |
Play him as the 10 at Wrexham this Friday and see how he goes. McAteer, Akpom and Hirst around him and Neil and Cajuste behind him will be more than enough |  |
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| Egeli on 11:58 - Feb 8 with 991 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Egeli on 11:06 - Feb 8 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
How many wingers have we seen who have dramatically improved under KM and his coaching team?
There have been plenty writing off Philogene, Clarke and McAteer, and yet slowly we see the upturn and improvement with these players as they put in the hard work. We have no reason to doubt Walle Egeli won't improve in exactly the same way, if he applies himself.
I see no reason why he won't continue to play off the bench or even start some matches going forward, given how KM likes to rotate players. We also could go on a cup run, so he will get games.
Look how 'not getting games' is starting to pay off with McAteer. [Post edited 8 Feb 16:22]
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I was going to write something similar - too little patience with too many other players who have come (or are coming good).
I'd add Azon to your excellent list | | | |
| Egeli on 12:39 - Feb 8 with 850 views | grow_our_own |
Too early to write off Egeli. He's still our most skilful option on the right. One goal-involvement doesn't make McAteer suddenly trustworthy. Losing Burns (went off injured yesterday) would still be a big worry. Hopefully watching him in the flesh has made something click in McAteer, but it's still unclear whether his ceiling is that of Kayden Jackson or the maestro Burns in his prime. We have to strive for better than another Jackson these days. Egeli was awful at Sheff Utd, but we've seen good performances from him on the right, eg QPR away and Norwich at home. | | | |
| Agreed…. on 13:02 - Feb 8 with 733 views | unstableblue |
| Egeli on 11:53 - Feb 8 by Mullet |
Play him as the 10 at Wrexham this Friday and see how he goes. McAteer, Akpom and Hirst around him and Neil and Cajuste behind him will be more than enough |
Think the FA cup game is really important for Egeli
Start as the ten, or on the right. But needs a good run out.
I’d go for quite a lot of changes and a different team at Wrexham. Disconnect from the crucial league game.
I assume Wrexham will go quite strong. |  |
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| Agreed…. on 13:53 - Feb 8 with 588 views | Yallop2 |
| Agreed…. on 13:02 - Feb 8 by unstableblue |
Think the FA cup game is really important for Egeli
Start as the ten, or on the right. But needs a good run out.
I’d go for quite a lot of changes and a different team at Wrexham. Disconnect from the crucial league game.
I assume Wrexham will go quite strong. |
Wrexham have Bristol C between games with us so they'll likely mix it up a little. |  | | |
| Egeli on 17:20 - Feb 8 with 289 views | Alberto_the_frog |
| Egeli on 10:29 - Feb 8 by TIB |
Worst thing you could do right now is dropping him to u21’s, we’ve seen McAteer respond after potential friction in camp, Egeli may respond too.
Let’s also not forget, he’s a young lad, who’s still developing physically, mentally, and professionally, who’s relocated abroad to play, in arguably, the toughest league in the world. Give him time, we’ve seen how long it took likes of Matusiwa and Azon to get up to speed. |
Azon is up to speed? Good god |  |
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| Egeli on 17:24 - Feb 8 with 263 views | pointofblue |
| Egeli on 12:39 - Feb 8 by grow_our_own |
Too early to write off Egeli. He's still our most skilful option on the right. One goal-involvement doesn't make McAteer suddenly trustworthy. Losing Burns (went off injured yesterday) would still be a big worry. Hopefully watching him in the flesh has made something click in McAteer, but it's still unclear whether his ceiling is that of Kayden Jackson or the maestro Burns in his prime. We have to strive for better than another Jackson these days. Egeli was awful at Sheff Utd, but we've seen good performances from him on the right, eg QPR away and Norwich at home. |
Everyone was awful at Sheffield United. I'm not sure why Egeli and, to an extent, Hirst, seem to be the only ones getting brickbats for it. | |
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| Egeli on 17:26 - Feb 8 with 249 views | Dubtractor |
| Egeli on 10:11 - Feb 8 by chicoazul |
Frimmers this is not a dig at you per se but it consistently amazes me that people here write new players off when they have a dip, drop out of the side, get benched etc
Specifically with Egeli he is a young player new to the league who has shown flashes and has for now been overtaken by a couple of senior players, this is exactly what is to be expected in his situation and is an example of the system working as it should, so why in earth would we send him on loan to I dunno Colchester or somewhere or stick him in the u21s? Why would this even be a consideration? |
I'd give this more than one upvote if I could. |  |
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| Egeli on 17:31 - Feb 8 with 219 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Egeli on 11:58 - Feb 8 by SuffolkPunchFC |
I was going to write something similar - too little patience with too many other players who have come (or are coming good).
I'd add Azon to your excellent list |
it's not about patience and it's also not writing a player off, i don't think I can make it any clearer when i've stated that I feel he's gonna be a star
what im asking is where does he fit in and if that's nowhere for the remainder of the season, would it be good for him to go with the u21s for some games etc. That's not binning him or dropping him, just developing him without it having any ill effects on first team action.
We're in the position now where everything is coming together nicely, we have a nice balance to the side, that right hand side works best when it has wide players on it, or ones that can go inside or out ala hutch.. that's not egeli. and i feel with egeli at the moment, it's playing him like sammy S, in a position that he once played but doesn't work in our side. | |
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| Egeli on 17:37 - Feb 8 with 192 views | pointofblue |
| Egeli on 17:31 - Feb 8 by FrimleyBlue |
it's not about patience and it's also not writing a player off, i don't think I can make it any clearer when i've stated that I feel he's gonna be a star
what im asking is where does he fit in and if that's nowhere for the remainder of the season, would it be good for him to go with the u21s for some games etc. That's not binning him or dropping him, just developing him without it having any ill effects on first team action.
We're in the position now where everything is coming together nicely, we have a nice balance to the side, that right hand side works best when it has wide players on it, or ones that can go inside or out ala hutch.. that's not egeli. and i feel with egeli at the moment, it's playing him like sammy S, in a position that he once played but doesn't work in our side. |
Think we need to work out, first, how serious Burns' knock is. And we need to ensure McAteer's improvement yesterday is not just a flash in the pan. I doubt dumping Egeli to the under 21s is going to do anything for his confidence.
Perhaps, with rumours swirling about him often being seen out and about alone, and even asking for advise around town, IF true, there needs to be as much consideration about how he is being supported off the pitch as much as on it. | |
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| Egeli on 17:42 - Feb 8 with 157 views | GlasgowBlue |
I think people are forgetting what an important member of the team he was up to Christmas. He was in most people's starting eleven during that period and there was an outbreak of panic when it was thought he had been injured after the Norwich game.
His form has dipped since the tun of the year but he's a young player playing in a tough league in a foreign country.
McKenna will manage him well and he'll play an important role during the run in. [Post edited 8 Feb 17:50]
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| Egeli on 17:42 - Feb 8 with 152 views | Dubtractor |
| Egeli on 17:31 - Feb 8 by FrimleyBlue |
it's not about patience and it's also not writing a player off, i don't think I can make it any clearer when i've stated that I feel he's gonna be a star
what im asking is where does he fit in and if that's nowhere for the remainder of the season, would it be good for him to go with the u21s for some games etc. That's not binning him or dropping him, just developing him without it having any ill effects on first team action.
We're in the position now where everything is coming together nicely, we have a nice balance to the side, that right hand side works best when it has wide players on it, or ones that can go inside or out ala hutch.. that's not egeli. and i feel with egeli at the moment, it's playing him like sammy S, in a position that he once played but doesn't work in our side. |
"it's not about patience and it's also not writing a player off, i don't think I can make it any clearer when i've stated that I feel he's gonna be a star
what im asking is where does he fit in and if that's nowhere for the remainder of the season, would it be good for him to go with the u21s for some games etc."
That is absolutely about a lack of patience though - before yesterday the prevailing view was that McAteer was not going to have an impact, and that he'd struggle to get many minutes etc, and now all of a sudden in some people's eyes he is the man and Walle-Egeli has no place.
A football season is a long slog, Walle-Egeli is having his moment of not being as involved/as impactful at the moment, but I'd put money on it that he'll have some key moments over the coming months. | |
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