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Strait of Hormuz 20:14 - Mar 14 with 8164 viewsKropotkin123

You can make this up...

Donald Trump, 8-Mar
"That’s OK, Prime Minister Starmer, we don’t need them [ships] any longer — But we will remember. We don’t need people that join Wars after ​we’ve already won!""

Donald Trump, 14-Mar
"Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint will send ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a nation that has been totally decapitated."

In summary, he needs our ships to protect a shipping lane against an enemy that has allegedly been defeated, a week after saying he doesn't need them.
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Strait of Hormuz on 20:15 - Mar 14 with 3932 viewsLeoMuff

Just goes to show he just says whatever comes into his head.

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Strait of Hormuz on 20:17 - Mar 14 with 3906 viewsJ2BLUE

Perhaps that should have been plan A rather than lifting sanctions on Russia.

To think this clown wrote a book called The Art of the Deal...

Truly impaired.
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Strait of Hormuz on 00:01 - Mar 15 with 3600 viewsSamuelowen88

Dont forget that he also removed Irans nuclear threat a year ago!

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Strait of Hormuz on 00:07 - Mar 15 with 3576 viewsredrickstuhaart

You caused it orange-boy. You sort it.

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Strait of Hormuz on 00:19 - Mar 15 with 3554 viewsStokieBlue

It's utterly ridiculous.

He's created a huge mess in the region and has caused havoc in the markets and with prices globally. He's getting grief at home and now expects everyone else to come along and help him out when all he does is either ignore their opinions or belittle them.

SB
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Strait of Hormuz on 00:20 - Mar 15 with 3551 viewsRadioOrwell

175p a litre I just paid.
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Strait of Hormuz on 00:59 - Mar 15 with 3508 viewsWicklowBlue

I landed in San Fran 90mins ago. The first conversation I had was with the Uber driver from SFO to my hotel. The entire conversation was him swearing repeatedly about the current administration.

Its going to be a long week....
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Strait of Hormuz on 09:36 - Mar 15 with 3232 viewsredrickstuhaart

Strait of Hormuz on 00:20 - Mar 15 by RadioOrwell

175p a litre I just paid.


Then someone is ripping you off.

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Strait of Hormuz on 09:40 - Mar 15 with 3225 viewsredrickstuhaart

Strait of Hormuz on 00:19 - Mar 15 by StokieBlue

It's utterly ridiculous.

He's created a huge mess in the region and has caused havoc in the markets and with prices globally. He's getting grief at home and now expects everyone else to come along and help him out when all he does is either ignore their opinions or belittle them.

SB


Worryingly Miliband is telling the BBC this morning that we are "looking at the options".

We can't set that precedent, or signal to Iranian terrorists that we are part of this.

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Strait of Hormuz on 09:45 - Mar 15 with 3211 viewsSwansea_Blue

“In summary, he needs our ships to protect a shipping lane against an enemy that has allegedly been defeated, a week after saying he doesn't need them.”

Because of a war he and Netanyahu started with no thought for how it may play out and after spending the last year publicly humiliating his former allies and financially attacking them with tariffs.

I hope we tell him to ‘go screw himself’ as they’d say. Trouble is, all countries are now going to start feeling the impacts of this idiot’s actions (while the people of Iran are still no safer).

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Strait of Hormuz on 09:48 - Mar 15 with 3197 viewsPinewoodblue

Strait of Hormuz on 20:17 - Mar 14 by J2BLUE

Perhaps that should have been plan A rather than lifting sanctions on Russia.

To think this clown wrote a book called The Art of the Deal...


Could it be that the art of the deal is just getting what you want regardless .

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Strait of Hormuz on 09:49 - Mar 15 with 3175 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Strait of Hormuz on 09:45 - Mar 15 by Swansea_Blue

“In summary, he needs our ships to protect a shipping lane against an enemy that has allegedly been defeated, a week after saying he doesn't need them.”

Because of a war he and Netanyahu started with no thought for how it may play out and after spending the last year publicly humiliating his former allies and financially attacking them with tariffs.

I hope we tell him to ‘go screw himself’ as they’d say. Trouble is, all countries are now going to start feeling the impacts of this idiot’s actions (while the people of Iran are still no safer).


https://www.theguardian.com/wo

“I genuinely believe now they [the US and Israel] didn’t have a plan. I was still hoping I was wrong, but the Shahran attack changed the way I look at this war right now,” he said. “If the regime is what you want to hit, even if you think these depots were used by the regime, where do you draw the line? What about us, the ordinary Iranians? We rely on this civil infrastructure. Why take away our ability to govern in the future? Who can rebuild utter ruins?”

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Strait of Hormuz on 09:50 - Mar 15 with 3184 viewsLeoMuff

Strait of Hormuz on 09:40 - Mar 15 by redrickstuhaart

Worryingly Miliband is telling the BBC this morning that we are "looking at the options".

We can't set that precedent, or signal to Iranian terrorists that we are part of this.


Hopefully we won’t rush, can’t say a straight up no, but this a mess of Trump and Netanyahus creation, they can sort it out.

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Strait of Hormuz on 12:14 - Mar 15 with 3037 viewspointofblue

I'm surprised he hasn't criticised the Gulf allies for not hitting back at Iran for the missiles and drones. It's funny he's been reluctant to give American aid to Ukraine as it's not their way, but now wants Europe involved in something it didn't start or even request.

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Strait of Hormuz on 12:32 - Mar 15 with 3011 viewsDubtractor

Strait of Hormuz on 09:49 - Mar 15 by BanksterDebtSlave

https://www.theguardian.com/wo

“I genuinely believe now they [the US and Israel] didn’t have a plan. I was still hoping I was wrong, but the Shahran attack changed the way I look at this war right now,” he said. “If the regime is what you want to hit, even if you think these depots were used by the regime, where do you draw the line? What about us, the ordinary Iranians? We rely on this civil infrastructure. Why take away our ability to govern in the future? Who can rebuild utter ruins?”


There was never a scenario where the US and Israel didn't just bomb Iran to rubble, and i dont understand why anyone thought that there might be.

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Strait of Hormuz on 18:26 - Mar 15 with 2841 viewsRIPbobby

What happened to the huge Navy they used to have?
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Strait of Hormuz on 19:41 - Mar 15 with 2719 viewsCamul123

Strait of Hormuz on 12:32 - Mar 15 by Dubtractor

There was never a scenario where the US and Israel didn't just bomb Iran to rubble, and i dont understand why anyone thought that there might be.


Israel's out to destroy the country whatever regime might run it; they won't allow it or its people to prosper.

Trump's already forgotten why he went in there.
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Strait of Hormuz on 22:33 - Mar 15 with 2563 viewsreusersfreekicks

Strait of Hormuz on 20:17 - Mar 14 by J2BLUE

Perhaps that should have been plan A rather than lifting sanctions on Russia.

To think this clown wrote a book called The Art of the Deal...


He didn't write that book
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Strait of Hormuz on 07:25 - Mar 16 with 2389 viewsChurchman

Strait of Hormuz on 22:33 - Mar 15 by reusersfreekicks

He didn't write that book


Surely he wrote something with his crayons?

I see he is now threatening NATO countries if they don’t help free up the Strait of Hormuz. Three things from this:

The U.K. doesn’t have so much as a dingy to look after shipping. What little is left is rusting away kit less and crew less or already in the scrapyard. Even the little minesweeper is in the U.K. refitting. Pathetic really

Secondly, it’s clear Trump is panicking that he’s unleashed something beyond his control. In particular the economic effects on the US

Lastly saying that NATO is dead if those countries don’t help - it’s already dead Donald!! You already killed it! Along with the UN, International law and every other structure put in place since 1945. In the bin.

If or more likely when the U.K. or any other European country is directly threatened does anyone truly think the US will be interested? Of course not. Which of course makes the government’s ongoing disarmament programme look even more ludicrous.
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Strait of Hormuz on 07:54 - Mar 16 with 2325 viewsDubtractor

Strait of Hormuz on 07:25 - Mar 16 by Churchman

Surely he wrote something with his crayons?

I see he is now threatening NATO countries if they don’t help free up the Strait of Hormuz. Three things from this:

The U.K. doesn’t have so much as a dingy to look after shipping. What little is left is rusting away kit less and crew less or already in the scrapyard. Even the little minesweeper is in the U.K. refitting. Pathetic really

Secondly, it’s clear Trump is panicking that he’s unleashed something beyond his control. In particular the economic effects on the US

Lastly saying that NATO is dead if those countries don’t help - it’s already dead Donald!! You already killed it! Along with the UN, International law and every other structure put in place since 1945. In the bin.

If or more likely when the U.K. or any other European country is directly threatened does anyone truly think the US will be interested? Of course not. Which of course makes the government’s ongoing disarmament programme look even more ludicrous.


Trump has hammered the USA's allies with tariffs, disparaged their leaders and history, and now expects them to his aid?

What a bellend.

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Strait of Hormuz on 08:07 - Mar 16 with 2283 viewsChurchman

Strait of Hormuz on 07:54 - Mar 16 by Dubtractor

Trump has hammered the USA's allies with tariffs, disparaged their leaders and history, and now expects them to his aid?

What a bellend.


Yep. It’s like slapping a smaller kid, shoving his head down the sh1tpan, pinching his pocket money and asking him for help and a thank you.

Total bellend.

Should we defend shipping in the Strait? Yes. To protect our interests not Trump’s or America’s. Pity there’s nothing to do that with unless Starmer hires a pedalo and buys (on expenses of course) a spud gun.
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Strait of Hormuz on 08:11 - Mar 16 with 2263 viewsStokieBlue

Strait of Hormuz on 07:54 - Mar 16 by Dubtractor

Trump has hammered the USA's allies with tariffs, disparaged their leaders and history, and now expects them to his aid?

What a bellend.


He's now threatening "a bad future for NATO" if NATO don't help to secure Hormuz.

This isn't going well for him at home either. He's called the media "traitors" and trying to get them silenced and Vance is nowhere to be seen as he wants nothing to do with this.

SB
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Strait of Hormuz on 08:13 - Mar 16 with 2258 viewsDJR

Strait of Hormuz on 08:11 - Mar 16 by StokieBlue

He's now threatening "a bad future for NATO" if NATO don't help to secure Hormuz.

This isn't going well for him at home either. He's called the media "traitors" and trying to get them silenced and Vance is nowhere to be seen as he wants nothing to do with this.

SB


Just as Trump thinks that, under the new Monroe Doctrine, the Middle East is part of the Western Hemisphere, he must think the same of the North Atlantic in NATO.
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Strait of Hormuz on 08:14 - Mar 16 with 2240 viewsStokieBlue

Strait of Hormuz on 08:13 - Mar 16 by DJR

Just as Trump thinks that, under the new Monroe Doctrine, the Middle East is part of the Western Hemisphere, he must think the same of the North Atlantic in NATO.
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A common mistake to think that he thinks anything with any real clarity or understanding.

It's just spontaneous decisions lurching from one thing to the next without any strategic planning or correlation.

SB
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Strait of Hormuz on 08:29 - Mar 16 with 2182 viewsDJR

Strait of Hormuz on 08:14 - Mar 16 by StokieBlue

A common mistake to think that he thinks anything with any real clarity or understanding.

It's just spontaneous decisions lurching from one thing to the next without any strategic planning or correlation.

SB


I agree he is all over the place in terms of explanations but he doesn't care.

And I still maintain that what has been going on recently has been driven by the notion of payback time when it comes to the three biggest bogeyman of the Republican right, namely, Venezuela, Cuba and Iran.

And regarding Iran, his interests happen to coincide with those of Netanyahu.
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