| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands 10:56 - Mar 31 with 5103 views | breezy_runner |
Seeing talk of a protest being held before the game against Birmingham, trying to start chants of "Ashton out" during the game.
Can't we just put aside any political opinions we have and put all our efforts into supporting the team?
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:21 - Mar 31 with 829 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:53 - Mar 31 by positivity |
you don't recruit immediately, you concentrate on the football.
the plans for the run-in are in place and people way down the pecking order from ashton will enact them.
the main thing distracting the players and the fans from football right now is mark ashton. let's get rid of him and focus on the football |
So you are insinuating the club can run without MA or another CEO for 6-8 weeks? Bobbins. We are in the midst of building a training facility for a start. [Post edited 31 Mar 12:21]
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:21 - Mar 31 with 825 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:17 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
But the on-field success has nothing to do with Ashton? How will use doing well with him in the background until June cost us the players' and Kieran's principles and dignity? Do you envisage David Prutton and Don Goodman calling us Reform FC before and during games?
I want OUR team, OUR players and OUR manager to step out on a Premier League pitch next season. |
And I hope we still do.
The club can still, very much, placate fans from all sides (well, most of them anyway, you can't keep all of the people happy all of the time).
However, the response so far has clearly been inadequate for a sizeable portion of the fanbase (probably even a sizeable minority, but sizeable nonetheless), and the club could address that, far better than they have so far.
But I think I'm getting off topic. 100% back the team. Back the players. Keep this out of the stands. I think we can agree on that. [Post edited 31 Mar 12:25]
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:25 - Mar 31 with 784 views | mrshallisfit |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:16 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
Reform FC is *such* a childish way to view it.
The club is OURS, not Ashton's. Feck him. It's about us, our players and Kieran.
Ashton will face the music, but you anyone thinking you can fire your club's sole football administrator/figurehead and it not impacting the club day-to-day (in the most important month of the season) is sheer lunacy. |
How is making his life more difficult running up to Sunday and the immediate future going to impact on the team and manager? What because it will distract him from signing players that we cant buy at present because the window is shut. In an ideal world I would hope he is not operating much near the squad. I would like to think that would nothing to do with him. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:27 - Mar 31 with 772 views | positivity |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:12 - Mar 31 by Churchman |
Publicity wise, not quite true.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/
Voting intentions March 26
https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/uk
There will be a spectrum of views within the club just as there will be in the crowd. My point is that this level of disruption that some wish to escalate will kill our season in my view. [Post edited 31 Mar 12:12]
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fair enough on the brizzle one, never seen that!
those are voting intentions, not voters, that poll seems like an outlier, the averages are c.23% at the moment.
i see what you're saying, but i think the level of disruption that ashton has brought on the club is more likely to kill our season than protests before or after the brum game | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:28 - Mar 31 with 765 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:17 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
But the on-field success has nothing to do with Ashton? How will use doing well with him in the background until June cost us the players' and Kieran's principles and dignity? Do you envisage David Prutton and Don Goodman calling us Reform FC before and during games?
I want OUR team, OUR players and OUR manager to step out on a Premier League pitch next season. |
Surely the biggest impact of the CEO on our on-field success is the one he has emphasised. Setting standards from the top that are non-negotiable.
Is it OK for those standards to be thrown out of the window because the CEO is no longer abiding by them? Or does it send a far better message that the CEO is held accountable? |  |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:30 - Mar 31 with 754 views | positivity |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:21 - Mar 31 by tractorboy1978 |
So you are insinuating the club can run without MA or another CEO for 6-8 weeks? Bobbins. We are in the midst of building a training facility for a start. [Post edited 31 Mar 12:21]
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plans are in place for the training facility, ashton is not personally overseeing every nut and bolt, at worst there'll be some delay.
how does this affect team performance in the next 6-8 weeks? | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:37 - Mar 31 with 706 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:27 - Mar 31 by positivity |
fair enough on the brizzle one, never seen that!
those are voting intentions, not voters, that poll seems like an outlier, the averages are c.23% at the moment.
i see what you're saying, but i think the level of disruption that ashton has brought on the club is more likely to kill our season than protests before or after the brum game |
There is a picture of Starmer and the party's local candidate holding up two shirts in the club shop and one of him sat in a stand. The article states that there was a meeting to discuss the football governance bill. Did the club supply those shirts? Was there special access provided for Labour's media team? Was he given free licence to use and alter images? There isn't a picture of him sat in the dressing room.
It is not the same scale of what has gone on with us. | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:38 - Mar 31 with 687 views | Libero |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:19 - Mar 31 by tractorboy1978 |
You might. But you didn't invest £105m to buy a stake in the club and don't need us to be in the PL to see a return on your money. |
Quite - I fully expect someone who has invested that kind of money to have a rather different outlook, but that doesn't change my own. |  | | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 14:20 - Mar 31 with 608 views | positivity |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:49 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
As a previous poster has said, how on earth do you expect to recruit a replacement right now? This is not a simple solution. Top targets are likely to be deep in their own respective seasons and will almost certainly have notice periods, just like Ashton did at Brizzle. |
how long do you think it'd take to appoint a new ceo?
if you think it's inevitable that he'll go then it's far better that it's done now, rather than in the summer/transfer window when a ceo really should be earning their corn | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 14:38 - Mar 31 with 567 views | mrshallisfit |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:21 - Mar 31 by tractorboy1978 |
So you are insinuating the club can run without MA or another CEO for 6-8 weeks? Bobbins. We are in the midst of building a training facility for a start. [Post edited 31 Mar 12:21]
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That is a pretty weak argument. If we get promoted then the summer months will inevtiably be very busy and will need a Chairman then. (To be honest we need a Chairman in the Summer either way - so bet start looking right now). This season will run itself - its all based on how the players do on the pitch.
Your arguments feel like a cover for you want MA to stay. Nothing else. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 14:47 - Mar 31 with 549 views | jayessess |
Given some of the abuse I've seen/heard regularly dished out to some of our players by allegedly Ipswich-supporting spectators this season, finding it hard to take all the "we have to all pull together to support the lads" stuff very seriously.
Why would "Ashton Out" be any more off-putting to George Hirst or Kasey McAteer than all the grief they've got this season?
I'd imagine the number of players worried about the security of the CEO/Chairman's job is basically 0. Some won't especially care either way and will just get on with it, some will be annoyed about the Farage visit. I doubt very much if there's any at all in the "oh, gosh, I hope no one sings Ashton Out during the game, that would put me right off!" camp. [Post edited 31 Mar 14:47]
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:01 - Mar 31 with 510 views | Churchman |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 12:27 - Mar 31 by positivity |
fair enough on the brizzle one, never seen that!
those are voting intentions, not voters, that poll seems like an outlier, the averages are c.23% at the moment.
i see what you're saying, but i think the level of disruption that ashton has brought on the club is more likely to kill our season than protests before or after the brum game |
We shall agree to differ 😃
Whether it’s 15%, 23% or 30% it’s an astonishing percentage given what they are. Then of course you have the silent supporters of him who will just slip a cross in the box, then there’s the utterly disinterested and finally the rest.
This reminds me a little of the Brexit vote. The main difference being neither side had the vaguest clue what it meant but it wouldn’t surprise me if the vote split wasn’t on similar lines. Depressing isn’t it.
Back to the club and Farage, I suspect that there was never the intent for Reform to use it the way they have from the club’s perspective. Surely he’s not that dopey - though the question has to be asked. The big picture I just don’t like politicians or politics anywhere near football clubs. Oil and water. That breed should b*gger off back to their free HoC lunch etc. [Post edited 31 Mar 16:18]
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:07 - Mar 31 with 489 views | positivity |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:01 - Mar 31 by Churchman |
We shall agree to differ 😃
Whether it’s 15%, 23% or 30% it’s an astonishing percentage given what they are. Then of course you have the silent supporters of him who will just slip a cross in the box, then there’s the utterly disinterested and finally the rest.
This reminds me a little of the Brexit vote. The main difference being neither side had the vaguest clue what it meant but it wouldn’t surprise me if the vote split wasn’t on similar lines. Depressing isn’t it.
Back to the club and Farage, I suspect that there was never the intent for Reform to use it the way they have from the club’s perspective. Surely he’s not that dopey - though the question has to be asked. The big picture I just don’t like politicians or politics anywhere near football clubs. Oil and water. That breed should b*gger off back to their free HoC lunch etc. [Post edited 31 Mar 16:18]
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yeah, ma's either utterly incompetent or utterly contemptuous of itfc's reputation.
either way, best he goes!
as for reform, the best hope is that the 50-75% of voters who are anyone-but-reform are able to keep them out. really should be some kind of transferrable vote, as most decent people are more anti-reform than they are pro-labour, pro-tories, pro-green etc... | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:10 - Mar 31 with 483 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 14:38 - Mar 31 by mrshallisfit |
That is a pretty weak argument. If we get promoted then the summer months will inevtiably be very busy and will need a Chairman then. (To be honest we need a Chairman in the Summer either way - so bet start looking right now). This season will run itself - its all based on how the players do on the pitch.
Your arguments feel like a cover for you want MA to stay. Nothing else. |
It's a weak argument to say the club will be worse off for not having a CEO? Right, ok.
When it comes down to it though, doesn't matter what you or I want or think. My argument is the owners will want him to stay and will have no intention of getting rid of him now or in the summer. A few thousand fans being upset won't have any bearing on their decision whatsoever. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:25 - Mar 31 with 453 views | ReusersTown |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:01 - Mar 31 by Churchman |
We shall agree to differ 😃
Whether it’s 15%, 23% or 30% it’s an astonishing percentage given what they are. Then of course you have the silent supporters of him who will just slip a cross in the box, then there’s the utterly disinterested and finally the rest.
This reminds me a little of the Brexit vote. The main difference being neither side had the vaguest clue what it meant but it wouldn’t surprise me if the vote split wasn’t on similar lines. Depressing isn’t it.
Back to the club and Farage, I suspect that there was never the intent for Reform to use it the way they have from the club’s perspective. Surely he’s not that dopey - though the question has to be asked. The big picture I just don’t like politicians or politics anywhere near football clubs. Oil and water. That breed should b*gger off back to their free HoC lunch etc. [Post edited 31 Mar 16:18]
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"Back to the club and Farage’s, I suspect that there was never the intent for Reform to use it the way they have from the club’s perspective"
Why do you keep playing it down when all evidence points to that being the intent. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:34 - Mar 31 with 439 views | Kropotkin123 |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:38 - Mar 31 with 427 views | portmanking |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:25 - Mar 31 by ReusersTown |
"Back to the club and Farage’s, I suspect that there was never the intent for Reform to use it the way they have from the club’s perspective"
Why do you keep playing it down when all evidence points to that being the intent. |
There is no evidence (at least in the public domain) that suggests Ashton and Nash gave the green light for Reform to publish/promote NF's visit. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:41 - Mar 31 with 408 views | ReusersTown |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:38 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
There is no evidence (at least in the public domain) that suggests Ashton and Nash gave the green light for Reform to publish/promote NF's visit. |
Come on man don't be so obtuse. How about the 6 gifted shirts, assisting of their media team and absolutely no denial or distancing in his subsequent 'apology interview'. Are you seriously telling me your head is buried that deep in the ground.
And what do you think they were doing the whole time he was there? Just opened the gate and left him in the stadium. [Post edited 31 Mar 15:44]
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:42 - Mar 31 with 406 views | bluelagos |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:38 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
There is no evidence (at least in the public domain) that suggests Ashton and Nash gave the green light for Reform to publish/promote NF's visit. |
Yeah, I mean when Nigel asked for the 6 shirts, maybe Ashton and Nash thought it was for a 6-aside match? |  |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:42 - Mar 31 with 402 views | positivity |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:38 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
There is no evidence (at least in the public domain) that suggests Ashton and Nash gave the green light for Reform to publish/promote NF's visit. |
if that was the case, it seems utterly incompetent of him, and unimaginable that he wouldn't mention that in his "apology" video. sackable offence i'd say | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:48 - Mar 31 with 371 views | grow_our_own |
- It's not Starmer FC because Arsenal don't hold official Labour party promotional events.
- We'll still get fully behind the team. Love Ipswich, hate Ashton. He's sufficiently removed from the playing side. Hell, if Phil's word from the players is true, they'll be relieved and supportive we aren't letting this slide. I count we've eleven players in the squad from ethnic minorities. Polling shows nearly 80% of whom **hate** Reform.
- "Can't find a CEO in a week". Don't need to. Just need a temporary caretaker. Can be promoted from within or helicoptered from elsewhere until a permanent successor is found. Confident club will tick-over fine.
"We want Ashton out, say we want Ashton out!" [Post edited 31 Mar 15:52]
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 16:06 - Mar 31 with 316 views | darkhorse28 |
I think they’ll be FAR happier with Ashton FC destroying our commercials and togetherness ON and off the pitch.
Imagine the conversations happening between staff, payers, sponsors, tv companies - the same but less public than between supporters.
Was it worth destroying our club with party politics for no upside?
ALL our competitors benefit, while the culprit and chief chaos causer in chief remains in situ.
So don’t deflect, this is on YOU if you think party politics is more important than our football team, nobody else, YOU and happy clapping Mark Ashton all the way to being bigger than our club.
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 16:28 - Mar 31 with 285 views | positivity |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:42 - Mar 31 by bluelagos |
Yeah, I mean when Nigel asked for the 6 shirts, maybe Ashton and Nash thought it was for a 6-aside match? |
tbf, it seems very in character for all his team to be forced to wear matching uniforms with his name on the back! | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 16:29 - Mar 31 with 278 views | Churchman |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 15:25 - Mar 31 by ReusersTown |
"Back to the club and Farage’s, I suspect that there was never the intent for Reform to use it the way they have from the club’s perspective"
Why do you keep playing it down when all evidence points to that being the intent. |
It’s not a question of playing anything down. I just don’t think he realised what he’d got himself into or how Reform would use it. It makes no sense whatsoever to deliberately use the club in this way given he surely would not have needed a crystal ball to work out that a P45 would almost certainly follow.
As for promo stuff, shirts etc, I don’t know how it works with football clubs. I see from the picture posted earlier, Bristol Rovers weren’t shy in handing out the shirts but what par for the course is, no idea..
I’ve seen it in other working worlds where stuff gets handed out like confetti. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 16:32 - Mar 31 with 269 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:05 - Mar 31 by Wright1 |
I can't agree sorry. The time is now or probably never. If you think any sort of fan movement would happen or carry any weight after that much time has passed and during a period where there are no games, I think you are sorely mistaken. I would guess you probably know that deep down and probably don't think it actually important. |
It's a big IF.
But if Town get promoted and if Ashton plays a blinder in the summer transfer market, IMO the Farage thing will be quickly forgotten by the owners, sponsors and majority of supporters.
But if we fail to win promotion, it will probably rumble on until he resigns or is dismissed. | | | |
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