| I'm probably in the minority 11:02 - Apr 21 with 2733 views | hype313 |
But I don't care if we go up or not.
The PL just isn't fun across the board, yes, giving the odd team a bloody nose is fun for an afternoon, but constantly going to games, not wondering if we get a result, wondering what the score will be, became tiresome.
We're never going to get CL, at best you might get a Europa Conference run against some minnow from Estonia, only to then have that derail your league position.
I get it's important for the financial stability of the club, but from a footballing and fan perspective, I'm non plussed by promotion. |  |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 11:03 - Apr 21 with 1973 views | portmanking |
It's the financial stability of the club, isn't it. Another £150m+ in money would put us on another level to almost every other Championship club, even if we continue yo-yo'ing. |  | | |
| I'm probably in the minority on 11:09 - Apr 21 with 1911 views | chicoazul |
I care if we do go up as I don’t want us to. I want us to stay in the Championship forever, every now and then fighting for promotion but not making it. I want us to be in 1988. |  |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 11:09 - Apr 21 with 1877 views | Benters |
It’s all about the money.
I prefer The Championship,but I also understand the idea is to progress through the leagues. |  |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 11:13 - Apr 21 with 1869 views | Matt_Netherlands |
I care about going up, but I don’t care about being up. |  | | |
| I'm probably in the minority on 11:16 - Apr 21 with 1850 views | LeoMuff |
I think your probably in the majority premier league is rubbish, beatings every week and feels stacked to favour the big boys.
Give me championship every day of the week, however the championship is also no fun if you are don’t have the resources to compete hence the need to visit the prem now and again to pocket £150m |  |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 11:19 - Apr 21 with 1826 views | jas0999 |
The board will strongly disagree with you. The growth strategy is dependent on the club being a stable PL club. That’s why they have invested in the squad. That’s why they are paying KM a significant sum of money - especially for the championship. Promotion is a requirement this season.
Additionally, if you don’t want promotion, why would someone support the club and hope they win? I don’t get this attitude at all. | | | |
| I'm probably in the minority on 11:26 - Apr 21 with 1778 views | mellowblue |
| I'm probably in the minority on 11:03 - Apr 21 by portmanking |
It's the financial stability of the club, isn't it. Another £150m+ in money would put us on another level to almost every other Championship club, even if we continue yo-yo'ing. |
For every Bournemouth that yoyos and comes good there are a Norwich or WBA who cannot sustain and grow enough to be a Premer regular and run out of steam. Norwich certainly did not exit the Premier in good shape, but have sold well as they usually do and got themselves a sugar-daddy. The financial model is so skewed between the Prem and Championship, so many Champ clubs endangering themselves by overexposing themselves financially. Collectively 3 billions of losses in the last 10 years. 25 years ago, it was a shame the proposed Premier 1. Premier 2. model did not get voted in. | | | |
| I'm probably in the minority on 11:28 - Apr 21 with 1767 views | SomethingBlue |
The club needs to be vibrant and having the same positive effect on the town, county & community. So the best outcome is whatever ensures that to the greatest extent. At the moment I'd say that means success on the pitch, promotion and if possible a longer stint among the elite. | |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 11:35 - Apr 21 with 1706 views | ITFC_Forever |
As an ITFC fan, I want us to compete at the highest level we can.
But that means actually competing, not wondering how much we will get beaten / relegated by.
If we thought there was / is a fighting chance of survival, then let's go for it.
But it's increasingly stacked against the promoted clubs in the Prem and you wonder if it is worth it. |  |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 11:38 - Apr 21 with 1671 views | Wickets |
| I'm probably in the minority on 11:13 - Apr 21 by Matt_Netherlands |
I care about going up, but I don’t care about being up. |
Yes more or less i'm the same . |  | | |
| I'm probably in the minority on 11:42 - Apr 21 with 1641 views | goperryrevs |
| I'm probably in the minority on 11:19 - Apr 21 by jas0999 |
The board will strongly disagree with you. The growth strategy is dependent on the club being a stable PL club. That’s why they have invested in the squad. That’s why they are paying KM a significant sum of money - especially for the championship. Promotion is a requirement this season.
Additionally, if you don’t want promotion, why would someone support the club and hope they win? I don’t get this attitude at all. |
The OP didn't say they don't want promotion. They said they're non-plussed by it.
I get that attitude. I was desperate for us to be promoted two years ago. This time, less so. All those games last season, all that travelling... and I saw us win ONCE in the league.
There are obvious benefits to going up, but they're long term and depend on slowly building a successful team. But if don't go up, it isn't the end of the world, and at least we'd win a few more games. Though with parachute payments disappearing, we would need to go up next season. | | | |
| I'm probably in the minority on 11:49 - Apr 21 with 1580 views | Bellevue_Blue |
I have never understood this. Where's your ambition? I bet Leicester fans said the same thing 20 years ago. I bet Palace fans never though they'd win the FA Cup and on the cusp on a European final when they were promoted in 2013.
It became tiresome because we were awful for the large majority of games. That does not mean it will be the same if it happened again.
It's another step forward. If we keep taking positive steps over a ten year period we might get somewhere. [Post edited 21 Apr 11:59]
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| I'm probably in the minority on 11:50 - Apr 21 with 1574 views | FBI |
Same here. It's not football, it's a 9 month sports-themed TV reality show with nothing to look forward to at the end of it. The worst of it, for me at least, is how pathetic the cheating is - anyone remember the state of Cucurella when we played Chelsea, for example? And VAR sucking the last vestiges of in-the-moment joy from it, too.
I rarely watch MOTD and last season was no different. It just means nothing to me, a bit like a rallycross enthusiast not liking F1 I suppose.
None of which is to say that I don't want to see us at the top table and, God forbid, competing like, say Brighton. But if/when that happens, it won't be half as exciting as down in the Championship, which is frustrating. |  |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 11:52 - Apr 21 with 1549 views | Guthrum |
Thing is, after a season or two of that, assuming we stay up, then comes the chance of a push up the division to where Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford are now, then beyond that to the level Villa are achieving. Leicester made it all the way to the top (the implosion sparked by the death of their very competent owner and the effects of Covid upon the family business, not footballing pressures).
Grimness like last season is not inevitable for the forseeable future, if we invest well, recruit the right players and Managers (or keep McKenna) and preserve the structures which have been building over the last five years. |  |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 11:54 - Apr 21 with 1528 views | Butterbing |
It 's a tricky one. I am desperate for success. Success for the club would currently be represented by promotion. The reward is a season like last year at worst and at best mid table. I want the success but I don't really want the reward. |  | | |
| I'm probably in the minority on 11:55 - Apr 21 with 1519 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Do people find the championship fun ? Loads of anti football teams parking the bus and lying on the floor for 70 mins trying to get a point.
The prem wasn't fun last season because we werent very good. If we actually give KM a team that could compete I'm sure we would enjoy it a lot more.
Ask Sunderland or Leeds fans. |  |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 11:58 - Apr 21 with 1498 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| I'm probably in the minority on 11:50 - Apr 21 by FBI |
Same here. It's not football, it's a 9 month sports-themed TV reality show with nothing to look forward to at the end of it. The worst of it, for me at least, is how pathetic the cheating is - anyone remember the state of Cucurella when we played Chelsea, for example? And VAR sucking the last vestiges of in-the-moment joy from it, too.
I rarely watch MOTD and last season was no different. It just means nothing to me, a bit like a rallycross enthusiast not liking F1 I suppose.
None of which is to say that I don't want to see us at the top table and, God forbid, competing like, say Brighton. But if/when that happens, it won't be half as exciting as down in the Championship, which is frustrating. |
"But if/when that happens, it won't be half as exciting as down in the Championship, which is frustrating ..."
We have come back from a losing position once this season, we haven't had a winner later than the 81st minute all season, we've drawn and lost the same amount of games as we have won, playing teams that constantly sit back ... I could go on. Beside's the derby fixtures, this season has been pretty average from an entertainment perspective.
Competing in the top half of the Prem, fighting for Europe like Brighton would not be on the same level as that?
I must be living on a different planet. [Post edited 21 Apr 12:00]
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| I'm probably in the minority on 12:05 - Apr 21 with 1436 views | wrightsrightglove |
I was against the Super League when it was first raised but I now think it would be the best thing to happen to football in this country. Get rid of the big 4/5 and then have a really competitive premier league | | | |
| I'm probably in the minority on 12:08 - Apr 21 with 1413 views | SE1blue |
I’ll be OK with promotion or staying down, but the level of negativity that’ll be poured out if it’s the latter makes me hope we go up.
Up: I love seeing our players compete against the best. And I really enjoy picking them in fantasy football (knowing full well I shouldn’t). Knowing the club will be financially competitive for longer is huge.
Stay down: games are more competitive and there’s more games. Sometimes I forget the season is happening in the PL. |  |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 12:10 - Apr 21 with 1389 views | Illinoisblue |
Did you enjoy finishing 15th under Evans with games played in a half empty stadium? |  |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 12:11 - Apr 21 with 1381 views | portmanking |
| I'm probably in the minority on 11:55 - Apr 21 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Do people find the championship fun ? Loads of anti football teams parking the bus and lying on the floor for 70 mins trying to get a point.
The prem wasn't fun last season because we werent very good. If we actually give KM a team that could compete I'm sure we would enjoy it a lot more.
Ask Sunderland or Leeds fans. |
I'm in total agreement. The Championship is not what it used to be. 75% of teams want to keep the ball out of play and slow the game down and focus on set-plays. The entertaining, end-to-end nature of our 2-2 game with Boro used to be the norm but it's now very much an outlier. | | | |
| I'm probably in the minority on 12:11 - Apr 21 with 1384 views | Kieran_Knows |
I just cannot get on board with this.
Without being a bit of a ‘fan boy’, why on earth would anyone want to watch us play Stoke at home on a Tuesday night playing against Ben fcuking Wilmott when we could have the biggest and best teams in world football come down with the best players in the world?
What about staying up and building a team that might just qualify for Europe one day? Nah you’re alright, I’d rather lose to Portsmouth on a sh!t Tuesday night in April.
No chance, get me back to the Prem ASAP. |  |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 12:14 - Apr 21 with 1354 views | CastroSito |
The championship is better, for sure. But we have to make the prem to make the championship fun.
Not going up, losing players, tighter finances...
The championship isn't fun if you're 14th. | | | |
| I'm probably in the minority on 12:15 - Apr 21 with 1341 views | SE1blue |
| I'm probably in the minority on 12:14 - Apr 21 by CastroSito |
The championship is better, for sure. But we have to make the prem to make the championship fun.
Not going up, losing players, tighter finances...
The championship isn't fun if you're 14th. |
That’ll be a playoff position soon enough. | |
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| I'm probably in the minority on 12:17 - Apr 21 with 1322 views | hype313 |
| I'm probably in the minority on 12:10 - Apr 21 by Illinoisblue |
Did you enjoy finishing 15th under Evans with games played in a half empty stadium? |
Nope, but I didn't enjoy the PL either.
The two aren't mutually exclusive. | |
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