| It’s VE Day 11:46 - May 8 with 5455 views | Mullet |
And people are voting in the fash up and down the country. What a mess we are in.
Another slap in the face to all of those who fought nazism. [Post edited 8 May 11:51]
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| It’s VE Day on 11:19 - May 9 with 1047 views | Benters |
| It’s VE Day on 17:36 - May 8 by Swansea_Blue |
That patently complete rubbish and pretty insulting to Mullers. Sad to see. |
Seriously that makes you sad? |  |
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| It’s VE Day on 11:43 - May 9 with 1042 views | BigManBlue |
I think it's dangerous when we label Reform and reform voters as "fascist". They're racist, right wing and utterly bonkers on many points, but they're not what any political scientist would consider fascist.
The reason I think this is because, when someone like Rupert Lowe and Restore come along - who are definitely tending more in that direction - we've already normalised the idea.
I remember Cameron being casually described as a fascist, then Bojo, now Nigel, and because it's become a catch all slur aimed at the right I think it means that we aren't nearly as outraged as we ought to be when an actual political of an actual party comes out and says he wants the mass deportation of legal citizens, because we've already convinced ourselves that this is what other have said. |  |
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| It’s VE Day on 12:10 - May 9 with 1002 views | Mullet |
| It’s VE Day on 11:43 - May 9 by BigManBlue |
I think it's dangerous when we label Reform and reform voters as "fascist". They're racist, right wing and utterly bonkers on many points, but they're not what any political scientist would consider fascist.
The reason I think this is because, when someone like Rupert Lowe and Restore come along - who are definitely tending more in that direction - we've already normalised the idea.
I remember Cameron being casually described as a fascist, then Bojo, now Nigel, and because it's become a catch all slur aimed at the right I think it means that we aren't nearly as outraged as we ought to be when an actual political of an actual party comes out and says he wants the mass deportation of legal citizens, because we've already convinced ourselves that this is what other have said. |
They’ve literally promised camps in areas where their enemies live. They’re happy to play on nationalism and right wing violence. It’s more dangerous to ignore what they are or appease them.
Especially when we’ve got such dangerous, offensive and anti British views and individuals right here in this thread. | |
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| It’s VE Day on 00:23 - May 10 with 914 views | Libero |
| It’s VE Day on 20:59 - May 8 by Swansea_Blue |
Technically they’re more closely aligned with quasi-fascism, which borrows from the classic fascists without replicating every element of fascism. That’s largely because we’re now operating under very different economic and geo-political conditions and quasi-fascists are often in opposition and can’t own shape their environment in the way the likes of Hitler and Mussolini could when in power
So they borrow things from fascism like:
- intense, negative nationalism ☑️
- ‘othering’ a minority group, often immigrants, as the blame for people’s woes ☑️
- promoting a leadership cult ☑️
- promote authoritarian conservative principles ☑️
- attack on norms and institutions critical to a healthy democracy ☑️ [Post edited 8 May 21:15]
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Spot on. This is why I consistently refer to them as quasi-fascists, there’s always some boot-licking apologist who wants to moralise on the validity of calling Reform/Trump/et al, fascist, although never seemingly on the fascist element of their behaviour itself… [Post edited 10 May 0:32]
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| It’s VE Day on 00:27 - May 10 with 912 views | Libero |
| It’s VE Day on 21:57 - May 8 by Sarge |
Why do they always run from debate though? I would love to understand, quite genuinely, why people that vote Reform do so, what they offer that chimes with them (notwithstanding that these are local elections), in a normal civil way. But never, not once, do you ever get any kind of response. It’s just one word answers if anything at all.
People apparently feel so strongly about something but never seem to articulate what it is or why. |
I think we all know the answer, we’re just not supposed to say it- it’s because they’re devastatingly thick, ignorant or a beautiful rancid blend of the two.
Anti-expert, anti-education, anti-culture (unless it’s ENGURLISHH) total empty vessels who have been completely duped by their Daddy Farage. | | | |
| It’s VE Day on 00:28 - May 10 with 912 views | Trequartista |
| It’s VE Day on 11:43 - May 9 by BigManBlue |
I think it's dangerous when we label Reform and reform voters as "fascist". They're racist, right wing and utterly bonkers on many points, but they're not what any political scientist would consider fascist.
The reason I think this is because, when someone like Rupert Lowe and Restore come along - who are definitely tending more in that direction - we've already normalised the idea.
I remember Cameron being casually described as a fascist, then Bojo, now Nigel, and because it's become a catch all slur aimed at the right I think it means that we aren't nearly as outraged as we ought to be when an actual political of an actual party comes out and says he wants the mass deportation of legal citizens, because we've already convinced ourselves that this is what other have said. |
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| It’s VE Day on 00:38 - May 10 with 850 views | waveneyblue |
| It’s VE Day on 00:27 - May 10 by Libero |
I think we all know the answer, we’re just not supposed to say it- it’s because they’re devastatingly thick, ignorant or a beautiful rancid blend of the two.
Anti-expert, anti-education, anti-culture (unless it’s ENGURLISHH) total empty vessels who have been completely duped by their Daddy Farage. |
Vile
But nothing unexpected. |  | | |
| It’s VE Day on 06:19 - May 10 with 801 views | Benters |
| It’s VE Day on 00:27 - May 10 by Libero |
I think we all know the answer, we’re just not supposed to say it- it’s because they’re devastatingly thick, ignorant or a beautiful rancid blend of the two.
Anti-expert, anti-education, anti-culture (unless it’s ENGURLISHH) total empty vessels who have been completely duped by their Daddy Farage. |
What a load of drivel.
My neighbours are Reform Councillors the Daughter is a Reform Councillor all have Army links either have been in the Army or are in it.The other Daughter is in the Navy.
The Daughter married a chap from Fuji he is doing very well going up through the ranks etc.
So we are not all as you said,thank you very much. | |
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| It’s VE Day on 09:26 - May 10 with 771 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| It’s VE Day on 06:19 - May 10 by Benters |
What a load of drivel.
My neighbours are Reform Councillors the Daughter is a Reform Councillor all have Army links either have been in the Army or are in it.The other Daughter is in the Navy.
The Daughter married a chap from Fuji he is doing very well going up through the ranks etc.
So we are not all as you said,thank you very much. |
"I'm not thick or ignorant, some of my best friends are Reform councillors" might be my favourite take ever |  | | |
| It’s VE Day on 09:34 - May 10 with 723 views | Benters |
| It’s VE Day on 09:26 - May 10 by FoghornGleghorn |
"I'm not thick or ignorant, some of my best friends are Reform councillors" might be my favourite take ever |
If I made you happy then I’m happy. | |
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| It’s VE Day on 09:35 - May 10 with 744 views | reusersfreekicks |
| It’s VE Day on 06:19 - May 10 by Benters |
What a load of drivel.
My neighbours are Reform Councillors the Daughter is a Reform Councillor all have Army links either have been in the Army or are in it.The other Daughter is in the Navy.
The Daughter married a chap from Fuji he is doing very well going up through the ranks etc.
So we are not all as you said,thank you very much. |
Let's hope Reform flavour ICE don't come fot the person from.
Fiji [Post edited 10 May 9:36]
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| It’s VE Day on 09:48 - May 10 with 682 views | waveneyblue |
| It’s VE Day on 09:35 - May 10 by reusersfreekicks |
Let's hope Reform flavour ICE don't come fot the person from.
Fiji [Post edited 10 May 9:36]
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They're going to comfort the person from Fuji.
Thats sweet of them. | | | |
| It’s VE Day on 09:51 - May 10 with 696 views | Plums |
| It’s VE Day on 06:19 - May 10 by Benters |
What a load of drivel.
My neighbours are Reform Councillors the Daughter is a Reform Councillor all have Army links either have been in the Army or are in it.The other Daughter is in the Navy.
The Daughter married a chap from Fuji he is doing very well going up through the ranks etc.
So we are not all as you said,thank you very much. |
Excellent. So you have a direct link.
I live in a county that's been run by Reform for a couple of years and all I'm seeing is flags, closure of social care, council tax rises, buying expensive JCB kit that they've been told doesn't work but the party's had a £200k donation from Bamford and councillors shouting at journalists when challenged.
With all that info literally on the doorstep, what are their community priorities - what are they actually doing in your area? [Post edited 10 May 9:52]
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| It’s VE Day on 09:57 - May 10 with 679 views | Libero |
| It’s VE Day on 09:26 - May 10 by FoghornGleghorn |
"I'm not thick or ignorant, some of my best friends are Reform councillors" might be my favourite take ever |
Always good when the board intelligentsia steps in to put idiots like me right… | | | |
| It’s VE Day on 10:11 - May 10 with 662 views | Mullet |
| It’s VE Day on 09:57 - May 10 by Libero |
Always good when the board intelligentsia steps in to put idiots like me right… |
Astounding to see those who disrespected our war dead are still going on this thread too. The way people have justified ignoring all of these issues with a far right PLC is astounding | |
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| It’s VE Day on 10:52 - May 10 with 583 views | waveneyblue |
| It’s VE Day on 10:11 - May 10 by Mullet |
Astounding to see those who disrespected our war dead are still going on this thread too. The way people have justified ignoring all of these issues with a far right PLC is astounding |
"Disrespected our war dead"
You really are special aren't you | | | |
| It’s VE Day on 17:55 - May 10 with 529 views | Libero |
| It’s VE Day on 10:11 - May 10 by Mullet |
Astounding to see those who disrespected our war dead are still going on this thread too. The way people have justified ignoring all of these issues with a far right PLC is astounding |
As the Dad to a disabled child, I live in a perpetual state of fear as to what his life is going to look like when one day I’m not here to look after him, now that’s eclipsed by, just how hard are these Reform morons going to destroy his education and accommodations in these formative years of his life?
Still, something something stop the boats somethingsomething… | | | |
| It’s VE Day on 18:01 - May 10 with 515 views | Mullet |
| It’s VE Day on 17:55 - May 10 by Libero |
As the Dad to a disabled child, I live in a perpetual state of fear as to what his life is going to look like when one day I’m not here to look after him, now that’s eclipsed by, just how hard are these Reform morons going to destroy his education and accommodations in these formative years of his life?
Still, something something stop the boats somethingsomething… |
Yep, and happy to use ableist language openly etc.
Let alone the “patriotic history” nonsense they want to impose - wonder when we get the new textbooks and expulsion of certain staff etc | |
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| It’s VE Day on 18:09 - May 10 with 486 views | Libero |
| It’s VE Day on 18:01 - May 10 by Mullet |
Yep, and happy to use ableist language openly etc.
Let alone the “patriotic history” nonsense they want to impose - wonder when we get the new textbooks and expulsion of certain staff etc |
Yeup, this is why I can't be civil anymore with these scumbags- both the politicians and the pathetic excuse for human beings who are voting it in.
This is quasi-fascism and the thickos are clapping joyfully as it is welcomed in.
I hope they don'y have friends and family that are disabled, gay, trans or of any ethnic minority or religion other than WYYT BRII'ISH CHRISYTURN- otherwise they've just done them a massive diservice and caused them active harm. | | | |
| It’s VE Day on 18:58 - May 10 with 436 views | waveneyblue |
| It’s VE Day on 18:09 - May 10 by Libero |
Yeup, this is why I can't be civil anymore with these scumbags- both the politicians and the pathetic excuse for human beings who are voting it in.
This is quasi-fascism and the thickos are clapping joyfully as it is welcomed in.
I hope they don'y have friends and family that are disabled, gay, trans or of any ethnic minority or religion other than WYYT BRII'ISH CHRISYTURN- otherwise they've just done them a massive diservice and caused them active harm. |
Since when have you been civil.
You are pretty vile to anyone who doesn't agree with you.
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| It’s VE Day on 10:47 - May 11 with 354 views | Mullet |
| It’s VE Day on 18:09 - May 10 by Libero |
Yeup, this is why I can't be civil anymore with these scumbags- both the politicians and the pathetic excuse for human beings who are voting it in.
This is quasi-fascism and the thickos are clapping joyfully as it is welcomed in.
I hope they don'y have friends and family that are disabled, gay, trans or of any ethnic minority or religion other than WYYT BRII'ISH CHRISYTURN- otherwise they've just done them a massive diservice and caused them active harm. |
There’s a lot of talk about how Reform will implode and how they will damage these communities- I suspect their supporters are more and more MAGA like and eventually will splinter off, becoming more extreme as we are seeing now in America.
They don’t have an original thought between them. | |
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| It’s VE Day on 11:20 - May 11 with 334 views | Leaky |
| It’s VE Day on 17:36 - May 8 by Zx1988 |
I think your general point is still pertinent, though.
It's money earmarked for community developments, and that could have been use so much more productively.
We've got a decent amount of CIL sitting in the coffers at Zx Town Council - we're currently looking at putting it towards an outdoor gym, a pump track, and a skate park in a local green space.
You know, stuff that helps the community, rather than just shows off how racist we are. |
Its great having all these proposed community assets, as long as you don't fall into a pot hole getting to said asset's. |  | | |
| It’s VE Day on 11:26 - May 11 with 317 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| It’s VE Day on 11:20 - May 11 by Leaky |
Its great having all these proposed community assets, as long as you don't fall into a pot hole getting to said asset's. |
Don’t worry, the very serious political party have got that issue very seriously covered, with just the degree of very-seriousness they cover all issues. https://hopenothate.org.uk/202 | | | |
| It’s VE Day on 11:46 - May 11 with 290 views | Libero |
| It’s VE Day on 10:47 - May 11 by Mullet |
There’s a lot of talk about how Reform will implode and how they will damage these communities- I suspect their supporters are more and more MAGA like and eventually will splinter off, becoming more extreme as we are seeing now in America.
They don’t have an original thought between them. |
All the talk of the ‘implosion’ relies on people being logical and intelligent, which frankly, if they had the capacity to be- they wouldn’t be voting for Reform.
I agree with you- there’s all kinds of crazy zealots out there already who have been indoctrinated to think that ‘small boats’ of asylum seekers, disabled people, trans people, etc- are the cause of all of the issues in our lives. | | | |
| It’s VE Day on 11:59 - May 11 with 267 views | m14_blue |
| It’s VE Day on 11:20 - May 11 by Leaky |
Its great having all these proposed community assets, as long as you don't fall into a pot hole getting to said asset's. |
Not much a town council can do about that though. | | | |
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