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"I can't breathe" 07:35 - Jun 2 with 10722 viewsBlueSmoke

The final words of Henry Nowak as he was handcuffed and bleeding out from 5 stab wounds. The footage should worry everyone of us.

Government FORCED to make a statement.

Could be a pivotal moment for this broken country.
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"I can't breathe" on 07:39 - Jun 2 with 3931 viewsNthsuffolkblue

In what way do you see this as a pivotal moment for a broken country?

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"I can't breathe" on 07:42 - Jun 2 with 3923 viewsredrickstuhaart

"I can't breathe" on 07:39 - Jun 2 by Nthsuffolkblue

In what way do you see this as a pivotal moment for a broken country?


What makes this different to all the other appalling murders that happen each year here?

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"I can't breathe" on 07:44 - Jun 2 with 3908 viewsCaptainAhab

His murder was horrific, tragic and sickening, but the people trying to make political currency out of his death are a disgrace
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"I can't breathe" on 07:48 - Jun 2 with 3869 viewsStokieBlue

"I can't breathe" on 07:39 - Jun 2 by Nthsuffolkblue

In what way do you see this as a pivotal moment for a broken country?


He doesn't he's just trolling like he always does and always did previously.

Like on the climate change thread, where he poked for two pages asking for a peer-reviewed study and then when one was provided he never posted again on the thread again.

He also knows there is already a thread on this that kicked off and I suspect is hoping for more of the same.

Another disgraceful use of this horrible case on here.

SB

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"I can't breathe" on 07:52 - Jun 2 with 3853 viewsBlueSmoke

"I can't breathe" on 07:42 - Jun 2 by redrickstuhaart

What makes this different to all the other appalling murders that happen each year here?


The killer was legally carrying a sword?

The innocent victim was handcuffed and arrested while dying?

"don't think so, mate"
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"I can't breathe" on 07:54 - Jun 2 with 3807 viewsZx1988

"I can't breathe" on 07:52 - Jun 2 by BlueSmoke

The killer was legally carrying a sword?

The innocent victim was handcuffed and arrested while dying?

"don't think so, mate"


I'm not sure your lot would be making the same hue and cry if the ethnicities here were reversed.

Likewise, I can imagine the uproar from the usual quarters if, instead of Sikhism, the discussion centred around the ability of Christians to carry religious items.
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"I can't breathe" on 07:59 - Jun 2 with 3739 viewsBlueSmoke

"I can't breathe" on 07:48 - Jun 2 by StokieBlue

He doesn't he's just trolling like he always does and always did previously.

Like on the climate change thread, where he poked for two pages asking for a peer-reviewed study and then when one was provided he never posted again on the thread again.

He also knows there is already a thread on this that kicked off and I suspect is hoping for more of the same.

Another disgraceful use of this horrible case on here.

SB


It's all over the news? But you have no opinion?
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"I can't breathe" on 08:03 - Jun 2 with 3683 viewsSwansea_Blue

It’s a horrible case and the police have to be held accountable for their failures. Police heavy-handedness and stupidity is nothing new though, so I’m surprised you think this is a significant event. There have been plenty of examples of police failures contributing to or failing to prevent deaths recently, police themselves undertaking attacks and a general rise in authoritarian policing. So I doubt this case will make much difference, but hope you’re right that it does.

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"I can't breathe" on 08:04 - Jun 2 with 3677 viewsKeno

"I can't breathe" on 07:59 - Jun 2 by BlueSmoke

It's all over the news? But you have no opinion?


It is a tragedy and for one I feel sorry for the victims family over

They have my sympathy and, at what must be a terrible time for them, the last thing they need for people to try to engage in political grandstanding.

Let them grieve and let the lad rest in peace

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"I can't breathe" on 08:05 - Jun 2 with 3661 viewspositivity

"I can't breathe" on 07:52 - Jun 2 by BlueSmoke

The killer was legally carrying a sword?

The innocent victim was handcuffed and arrested while dying?

"don't think so, mate"


the killer wasn't legally carrying a sword, he was carrying an illegal knife which he used to murder someone. he received a life sentence.

the police made the wrong assumptions, as they have on many, many occasions. they are now under investigation, which hasn't always been the case.

shocking, dreadful case, but nothing political about it

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"I can't breathe" on 08:05 - Jun 2 with 3641 viewsBenters

I’ve just watched it.

It is truly awaful.

RIP Henry.

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"I can't breathe" on 08:12 - Jun 2 with 3590 viewsBloomBlue

I do find it a difficult situation especially for the family. The victim was handcuffed, but the perpetrator wasn't - totally wrong. Henry Nowak was asking for help but received none.

Although it sounds like the perpetrators family are scum. It was the brother who phoned the police and falsely claimed it was a racist attack by a white person and his mother hid the knife from the police, although I think she's in court for that next week.

A bigger question is, is it time we also banned knifes used for religious purposes like the kirpan?
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"I can't breathe" on 08:18 - Jun 2 with 3545 viewsSwansea_Blue

"I can't breathe" on 08:12 - Jun 2 by BloomBlue

I do find it a difficult situation especially for the family. The victim was handcuffed, but the perpetrator wasn't - totally wrong. Henry Nowak was asking for help but received none.

Although it sounds like the perpetrators family are scum. It was the brother who phoned the police and falsely claimed it was a racist attack by a white person and his mother hid the knife from the police, although I think she's in court for that next week.

A bigger question is, is it time we also banned knifes used for religious purposes like the kirpan?


I can’t begin to imagine how the family must feel knowing how their lad died (and being able to watch it too, although I’m not sure I could mange that if I was in their shoes).

Banning knives? Maybe, but if people want to cause trouble they’ll just use a kitchen knife or some other sort of weapon. The knife’s just the tool. I’d have thought the only way to reduce knife crime is to change the mindsets of people prepared to use them, somehow.

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"I can't breathe" on 08:22 - Jun 2 with 3485 viewsWinchBlue

The police were acting on information provided by a murderer who got what he deserved.
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"I can't breathe" on 08:26 - Jun 2 with 3461 viewsTownieRob

The same last words as George Floyd.

I expect to see players taking the knee before kick-off this season. If the principle is the same, then surely the response should be too.
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"I can't breathe" on 08:27 - Jun 2 with 3436 viewsvapour_trail

Dreadful story. Feel so much for Henry’s family.

Dreadful poster. Feel so much for blue smoke’s family.

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"I can't breathe" on 08:28 - Jun 2 with 3431 viewsmanagement

The correct initial response is that this is a tragedy and our thoughts are with The Nowak family as to whether it is pivotal, time will tell.

The reading by Mark Nowak outside the court was extremely measured and one can only imagine his inner turmoil along with all of the family.

Very disappointed that so far we have not seen The Chief Constable of Hampshire and delegated media duties to The Assistant Chief Constable.

We will see the court proceedings re the mother of the perpetrator very soon and hope justice is seen to be done.

Once again, thoughts with The Nowak Family.
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"I can't breathe" on 08:30 - Jun 2 with 3408 viewsitfcjoe

"I can't breathe" on 08:12 - Jun 2 by BloomBlue

I do find it a difficult situation especially for the family. The victim was handcuffed, but the perpetrator wasn't - totally wrong. Henry Nowak was asking for help but received none.

Although it sounds like the perpetrators family are scum. It was the brother who phoned the police and falsely claimed it was a racist attack by a white person and his mother hid the knife from the police, although I think she's in court for that next week.

A bigger question is, is it time we also banned knifes used for religious purposes like the kirpan?


Yep, totally awful case - police will be dragged over the coals and rightly so.

Poor kid, poor family - and they'll now see their son used as a political pawn over it.

And, 100% knifes like this should be banned if they are being carried publicly with no reason than just 'religion'. Think this was a different knife though

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"I can't breathe" on 08:30 - Jun 2 with 3401 viewsITFC_Essex

"I can't breathe" on 07:39 - Jun 2 by Nthsuffolkblue

In what way do you see this as a pivotal moment for a broken country?


Half of the population are raging Reformers, and the other half couldn't care less about this murder, but care more about issues abroad. Everyone's trying to shoehorn their narrative into everything that happens, at every opportunity, and it's going to be an absolute powder keg when it goes off.

Those of us in the middle politically are watching from the side-lines at the lunacy around us dragging more and more people into one side or another in total despair.

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"I can't breathe" on 08:32 - Jun 2 with 3366 viewsDubtractor

"I can't breathe" on 08:30 - Jun 2 by itfcjoe

Yep, totally awful case - police will be dragged over the coals and rightly so.

Poor kid, poor family - and they'll now see their son used as a political pawn over it.

And, 100% knifes like this should be banned if they are being carried publicly with no reason than just 'religion'. Think this was a different knife though


This just about sums up my views too.

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"I can't breathe" on 08:36 - Jun 2 with 3321 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

"I can't breathe" on 08:30 - Jun 2 by ITFC_Essex

Half of the population are raging Reformers, and the other half couldn't care less about this murder, but care more about issues abroad. Everyone's trying to shoehorn their narrative into everything that happens, at every opportunity, and it's going to be an absolute powder keg when it goes off.

Those of us in the middle politically are watching from the side-lines at the lunacy around us dragging more and more people into one side or another in total despair.


Where's your evidence that left-leaning people don't care about this murder?

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"I can't breathe" on 08:37 - Jun 2 with 3309 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

"I can't breathe" on 08:26 - Jun 2 by TownieRob

The same last words as George Floyd.

I expect to see players taking the knee before kick-off this season. If the principle is the same, then surely the response should be too.


Not really the same though is it, unless you're either really thick or a little bit racist?

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"I can't breathe" on 08:40 - Jun 2 with 3283 viewsbluelagos

"I can't breathe" on 08:28 - Jun 2 by management

The correct initial response is that this is a tragedy and our thoughts are with The Nowak family as to whether it is pivotal, time will tell.

The reading by Mark Nowak outside the court was extremely measured and one can only imagine his inner turmoil along with all of the family.

Very disappointed that so far we have not seen The Chief Constable of Hampshire and delegated media duties to The Assistant Chief Constable.

We will see the court proceedings re the mother of the perpetrator very soon and hope justice is seen to be done.

Once again, thoughts with The Nowak Family.



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"I can't breathe" on 08:41 - Jun 2 with 3257 viewsStokieBlue

"I can't breathe" on 07:59 - Jun 2 by BlueSmoke

It's all over the news? But you have no opinion?


You're not fooling anyone.

SB

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"I can't breathe" on 08:41 - Jun 2 with 3241 viewsnoggin

"I can't breathe" on 08:26 - Jun 2 by TownieRob

The same last words as George Floyd.

I expect to see players taking the knee before kick-off this season. If the principle is the same, then surely the response should be too.


Wow! These pond life still infest TWTD.

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