| Something doesn't feel right about this for me 22:39 - Jun 10 with 12202 views | ITFC_Essex |
I may get a few pelters for bringing this up, and maybe I am being a touch emotional, but something doesn’t feel right.
Ordinarily I would take the statement at face value, a break, family, and so on, but since Farage-gate I have a bitter taste in my mouth and feel I must ask questions of what is happening behind the scenes here. I don’t say this to bring division, but McKenna’s comments since Farage-gate have felt very distant, his statement upon promotion about the changes he had to almost fight here in terms of personnel (against his will) made this his hardest promotion and you just got a feeling, that there is/was something else.
He didn’t seem like he was staying, even then, even though I wanted to believe otherwise.
The club, in terms of communication doesn’t have a lot of credit left in the bank for me, things like telling us Brandon Williams and Omari having flu, seemed minor at the time, but since the nonsense with Farage, especially the lies afterward and the fake apology from Ashton, I just don’t have a good feeling about the man or trust what the club puts out. Some of the statements made by ex-players, we howled at like Wolfenden, or Broadheads family on socials, about their game time and departures. It just all doesn’t feel as straightforward as it might appear. Even the Sam S stuff going round seemed bizarre, utterly bizarre.
We have one man wielding all the power of a CEO and Chairman, a man that appears to be almost un sackable. You have a situation where clubs like Fulham are showing interest, and McKenna chooses to walk away, allegedly 2-weeks ago after promotion. Really? A manager very much looking upwards in his career, and a club, Ipswich, on paper, that we’re told is much better prepared than last time for the Premier League. After McKenna walking away before a ball is kicked, I am not so sure, in fact, I am very sceptical of the whole thing.
It seems, with the poor pool of managers available for us to attract, and a key element of our success in effect walking away, this wasn’t exactly an ideal time for a change. I also fear than many key players will be for the chopping block soon, and I don’t know if yet have the scope in terms of recruitment, to bed a new manager, new team and adjust to the Premier League in one swoop. I think this could all end very badly for us if we get it wrong, and Ashton will be the villain if it does.
Maybe I am wrong, but Ashton lost my trust and something doesn’t feel right about any of this. Especially given that we were told that McKenna had a big hand in the new facilities and so on. I feel there’s been a falling out, and I think at the centre of that was the nonsense with Nigel Farage.
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 01:08 - Jun 11 with 1360 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 00:41 - Jun 11 by armchaircritic59 |
Let's just give all the theories a rest, in the end it doesn't matter, it's happened. Kieran will be moving on after his sabbatical with the best wishes of almost everyone. We need to as well and quickly. New manager, new players, new season. A hell of a lot to do. |
Some people are legit crazy. Can’t even treat the most sincere farewell speech of one of our greatest ever mangers with credibility it deserves because the CEO had lunch with a politician they don’t like and then handled it poorly.
Should show McKenna some more respect than this nonsense. It’s an illness I swear.
Why to jump straight to that wild speculation. Poor. [Post edited 11 Jun 1:48]
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| For those looking for a single reason why... on 01:58 - Jun 11 with 1263 views | ScottCandage |
You may be thinking too narrowly. More likely, it was a series of events that made KM say, yeah it's time.
It's POSSIBLE that Farage-gate is a reason, but if it is, I'd bet it's not the only reason.
Ashton out |  | | |
| And for those looking for balance... on 02:23 - Jun 11 with 1244 views | ScottCandage |
| For those looking for a single reason why... on 01:58 - Jun 11 by ScottCandage |
You may be thinking too narrowly. More likely, it was a series of events that made KM say, yeah it's time.
It's POSSIBLE that Farage-gate is a reason, but if it is, I'd bet it's not the only reason.
Ashton out |
The reason why things seems fishy is that KM used the "to spend time with my family" gambit.
In my experience, this phrase has been used by many people to walk away from their position when the proverbial is about to hit the wall. Now it's possible that now, and in the past, certain people who have used that phrase were being honest about their intention to spend time with their family. But far too often, the family is used as cover, and the phrase really means, "I don't want to talk about the real reason(s) I'm leaving." | | | |
| And for those looking for balance... on 02:34 - Jun 11 with 1218 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| And for those looking for balance... on 02:23 - Jun 11 by ScottCandage |
The reason why things seems fishy is that KM used the "to spend time with my family" gambit.
In my experience, this phrase has been used by many people to walk away from their position when the proverbial is about to hit the wall. Now it's possible that now, and in the past, certain people who have used that phrase were being honest about their intention to spend time with their family. But far too often, the family is used as cover, and the phrase really means, "I don't want to talk about the real reason(s) I'm leaving." |
Ah! So now he’s lying to us.
Maybe after 4 and a half fantastic years at the club, you could just respect what he’s actually saying in his message to the fans. He did sound rather genuine.
However, feel free to invent whatever reason you like for your own confirmation bias a few hours after he’s walked away, if that helps you feel better. | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 06:31 - Jun 11 with 1115 views | Blue_Heath |
You are correct something, somewhere we are not being told. I just hope that KM himself and his family are in good health.
An odd time for a break given you can be very easily forgotten in management with time out of the game.
Still not sure a prem club unless likely going down would take a chance on KM so be interesting to see what he does next. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 06:58 - Jun 11 with 1035 views | lazyblue |
Absolute rubbish! | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 08:03 - Jun 11 with 923 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:44 - Jun 10 by SomethingBlue |
You're overthinking this one, it's McKenna choosing to go out in the loveliest way while also doing what is right for him and his young family. It hurts but that's all it is. |
Not sure his exit is lovely, it is a calculated long term career / business move in which he will benefit, we will not.
Losing the best possible manager we could have, let's not underestimate the size of the boots to fill right now. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 20:13 - Jun 11 with 774 views | Bigalhunter |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:51 - Jun 10 by waveneyblue |
Aw look at all those lovely downvotes and not even a particularly controversial comment.
My fan club out in force again tonight.
Hugs to you all, especially you BigAl xx |
Making it all about yourself once again….
Courting ever-increasing levels of disapproval probably isn’t wise for someone as brittle and sensitive as you clearly are….. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 21:46 - Jun 11 with 716 views | One_Bobby_Petta |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:34 - Jun 10 by bsw72 |
I am well aware of NDAs and so called gagging orders but I’m curious as to how the club would apply one to KM in this case when he is the one shouldering all the reasons personally for leaving. |
Possibly because they’ve let him leave with out paying the club compensation | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 21:47 - Jun 11 with 708 views | billlm |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:44 - Jun 10 by SomethingBlue |
You're overthinking this one, it's McKenna choosing to go out in the loveliest way while also doing what is right for him and his young family. It hurts but that's all it is. |
Whilst respectfully not leaving us for another club,
To me shows the man he is, |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:51 - Jun 11 with 631 views | waveneyblue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 20:13 - Jun 11 by Bigalhunter |
Making it all about yourself once again….
Courting ever-increasing levels of disapproval probably isn’t wise for someone as brittle and sensitive as you clearly are….. |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:31 - Jun 11 with 569 views | Churchman |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 01:08 - Jun 11 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Some people are legit crazy. Can’t even treat the most sincere farewell speech of one of our greatest ever mangers with credibility it deserves because the CEO had lunch with a politician they don’t like and then handled it poorly.
Should show McKenna some more respect than this nonsense. It’s an illness I swear.
Why to jump straight to that wild speculation. Poor. [Post edited 11 Jun 1:48]
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I disagree with you on plenty of things Joey, but I agree with you totally on this.
Speculation and over reading things is pointless and actually unfair. It’s simple. McKenna has moved on as most of us do in their careers. I thought he closed the book well. We need to move on too - hopefully to bigger and better things.
It’s all about the future and ITFC and that’s what I care about. Not KM. He’s a lovely part of our history and will be welcomed anytime - just as it should be. But that’s the limit of it.
The club is in a brilliant position. It’s something to be proud of now and that should be embraced. If we do that, it’ll make the new man’s task hopefully a little easier with good things to follow. |  | | |
| For those looking for a single reason why... on 06:31 - Jun 12 with 465 views | Benters |
| For those looking for a single reason why... on 01:58 - Jun 11 by ScottCandage |
You may be thinking too narrowly. More likely, it was a series of events that made KM say, yeah it's time.
It's POSSIBLE that Farage-gate is a reason, but if it is, I'd bet it's not the only reason.
Ashton out |
Balls.
Ashton in. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 06:33 - Jun 12 with 461 views | Benters |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 20:13 - Jun 11 by Bigalhunter |
Making it all about yourself once again….
Courting ever-increasing levels of disapproval probably isn’t wise for someone as brittle and sensitive as you clearly are….. |
Be kind as Bodger is always saying. | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 06:34 - Jun 12 with 457 views | Benters |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 01:08 - Jun 11 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Some people are legit crazy. Can’t even treat the most sincere farewell speech of one of our greatest ever mangers with credibility it deserves because the CEO had lunch with a politician they don’t like and then handled it poorly.
Should show McKenna some more respect than this nonsense. It’s an illness I swear.
Why to jump straight to that wild speculation. Poor. [Post edited 11 Jun 1:48]
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 06:44 - Jun 12 with 431 views | PioneerBlue |
Another MA personality cult thread | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 06:51 - Jun 12 with 419 views | PioneerBlue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 01:08 - Jun 11 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Some people are legit crazy. Can’t even treat the most sincere farewell speech of one of our greatest ever mangers with credibility it deserves because the CEO had lunch with a politician they don’t like and then handled it poorly.
Should show McKenna some more respect than this nonsense. It’s an illness I swear.
Why to jump straight to that wild speculation. Poor. [Post edited 11 Jun 1:48]
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Thank you for saying this. I cant read these threads anymore! | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 06:57 - Jun 12 with 404 views | Vic |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:34 - Jun 10 by portmanking |
Okay, mate. |
Surely if you step back/resign/hand your notice in you stop being paid.
You're suggesting he is still drawing a salary, so by implication saying there is something behind the scenes that isnt being said. otherwise surely, we'd just be giving him extended leave, a sabbatical, or something.
You've got a decent record of knowing stuff others dont, but this is quite a major claim. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 08:37 - Jun 12 with 291 views | brushhand |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:31 - Jun 11 by Churchman |
I disagree with you on plenty of things Joey, but I agree with you totally on this.
Speculation and over reading things is pointless and actually unfair. It’s simple. McKenna has moved on as most of us do in their careers. I thought he closed the book well. We need to move on too - hopefully to bigger and better things.
It’s all about the future and ITFC and that’s what I care about. Not KM. He’s a lovely part of our history and will be welcomed anytime - just as it should be. But that’s the limit of it.
The club is in a brilliant position. It’s something to be proud of now and that should be embraced. If we do that, it’ll make the new man’s task hopefully a little easier with good things to follow. |
Bill Mcgarry left and we ended up with Robson, lets look on the bright side for a change. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 08:57 - Jun 12 with 259 views | yorkshireblue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:01 - Jun 10 by ITFC_Essex |
While I agree entirely on taking that seriously, and I won't hold this against McKenna, but he will be back in the job (at a good level) as soon as he's legally able to, in my view. |
1st July 2027, unveiled as Celtic manager. |  | | |
| And for those looking for balance... on 08:59 - Jun 12 with 257 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| And for those looking for balance... on 02:23 - Jun 11 by ScottCandage |
The reason why things seems fishy is that KM used the "to spend time with my family" gambit.
In my experience, this phrase has been used by many people to walk away from their position when the proverbial is about to hit the wall. Now it's possible that now, and in the past, certain people who have used that phrase were being honest about their intention to spend time with their family. But far too often, the family is used as cover, and the phrase really means, "I don't want to talk about the real reason(s) I'm leaving." |
Just because a phrase has been abused by dodgy politicians and the like, doesn't mean it's always a lie. Believe it or not, some people do actually value time with their families! |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 09:15 - Jun 12 with 219 views | portmanking |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 06:57 - Jun 12 by Vic |
Surely if you step back/resign/hand your notice in you stop being paid.
You're suggesting he is still drawing a salary, so by implication saying there is something behind the scenes that isnt being said. otherwise surely, we'd just be giving him extended leave, a sabbatical, or something.
You've got a decent record of knowing stuff others dont, but this is quite a major claim. |
How else do you think we're still entitled to the £7.5m release clause compo?!
He wants to move on. This was the only way. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 09:19 - Jun 12 with 203 views | hype313 |
Does it really matter? Ashton could've gone round his house and done a number 2 on his pillow for all we know.
But in the grand scheme of things, whatever the reasons are (If they aren't simply taking a break) we'll never know, and it's not really relevant anymore regardless. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 09:23 - Jun 12 with 198 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
This reads to me like you're still a bit bitter about the Farage situation and have turned on Ashton because of it... |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 09:23 - Jun 12 with 197 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 09:15 - Jun 12 by portmanking |
How else do you think we're still entitled to the £7.5m release clause compo?!
He wants to move on. This was the only way. |
"He wants to move on. This was the only way."
What evidence do you have. It's a ridiculous take to say it was the only way if he wanted to leave. There were other ways out which would not have involved him taking a break.
There are far too many people who want this to be something other that what it has been said to be. Posters who want to make it about them, and not respect the people who are directly involved - Kieran, his family, his colleagues, the players, etc | | | |
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