| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? 07:02 - Jun 11 with 2984 views | ITFC_Forever |
I’d imagine we’re pretty well down the recruitment process already if the club has known for a couple of weeks. |  |
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| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:12 - Jun 11 with 2892 views | BlueySwede |
Given Phil's comments regarding McKenna and the West Ham job, it seems unlikely that anyone other than McKenna and Ashton (and those closest to them) knew anything. Phil also described it as a "shocking turn of events." |  | | |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:14 - Jun 11 with 2860 views | EddyJ |
Every news outlet had a story written and ready to go at 18:00 on the dot.
They must have had some kind of advanced notice. | | | |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:14 - Jun 11 with 2844 views | Waig |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:14 - Jun 11 by EddyJ |
Every news outlet had a story written and ready to go at 18:00 on the dot.
They must have had some kind of advanced notice. |
That’s what I noticed | | | |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:20 - Jun 11 with 2768 views | Zx1988 |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:14 - Jun 11 by EddyJ |
Every news outlet had a story written and ready to go at 18:00 on the dot.
They must have had some kind of advanced notice. |
That's just standard media practice.
The local media will have been given a press release at some point during the afternoon, with a strict 6pm embargo on it. It's the same for any major story from the club - notice how the local media always have something ready to go.
It's the sort of thing that, if you breach the embargo or leak the news, you'll never get fed anything by the club again. | |
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| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:23 - Jun 11 with 2661 views | vapour_trail |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:14 - Jun 11 by EddyJ |
Every news outlet had a story written and ready to go at 18:00 on the dot.
They must have had some kind of advanced notice. |
If you’re a semi decent media outlet (which twtd is obvs more than that) you’ve the story prepped in case of.
Like an obit that runs the minute someone famous kicks the bucket. |  |
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| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:33 - Jun 11 with 2425 views | Benters |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:12 - Jun 11 by BlueySwede |
Given Phil's comments regarding McKenna and the West Ham job, it seems unlikely that anyone other than McKenna and Ashton (and those closest to them) knew anything. Phil also described it as a "shocking turn of events." |
I’d go for this answer. |  |
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| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:38 - Jun 11 with 2369 views | SitfcB |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:20 - Jun 11 by Zx1988 |
That's just standard media practice.
The local media will have been given a press release at some point during the afternoon, with a strict 6pm embargo on it. It's the same for any major story from the club - notice how the local media always have something ready to go.
It's the sort of thing that, if you breach the embargo or leak the news, you'll never get fed anything by the club again. |
I got what ended up being def info at 14:00 -
‘Apparently hearing rumors [SIC] the McKenna leaving video is being filmed as we speak’
Didn’t believe it at the time, still can’t. |  |
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| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:49 - Jun 11 with 2202 views | BlueySwede |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:23 - Jun 11 by vapour_trail |
If you’re a semi decent media outlet (which twtd is obvs more than that) you’ve the story prepped in case of.
Like an obit that runs the minute someone famous kicks the bucket. |
Dubious. I'm a reporter myself, and although I've heard that major newspapers sometimes write obituaries or articles about celebrities in advance, I don't think that's common practice in other areas of journalism. There may be some templates prepared for situations such as a manager leaving for another club. But the idea that McKenna would step aside to take a break from football and focus on his family was probably not something that even the most creative journalistic mind would have anticipated. | | | |
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| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:53 - Jun 11 with 2140 views | urbanpenguin |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:23 - Jun 11 by vapour_trail |
If you’re a semi decent media outlet (which twtd is obvs more than that) you’ve the story prepped in case of.
Like an obit that runs the minute someone famous kicks the bucket. |
Hi, editor here, this is entirely not true.
Yes, nationals will have obits for famous people ready and be updating them regularly - Attenburgh, royalty, etc - but to suggest that a media company would have a readymade article about a manager resigning to take a break with his family is nonsense. |  |
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| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:56 - Jun 11 with 2064 views | jas0999 |
Very interesting SKY reported KM definitely not going to Fulham. Then this story broke at 6. | | | |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:57 - Jun 11 with 2047 views | Samuelowen88 |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:38 - Jun 11 by SitfcB |
I got what ended up being def info at 14:00 -
‘Apparently hearing rumors [SIC] the McKenna leaving video is being filmed as we speak’
Didn’t believe it at the time, still can’t. |
Not doubting the info in general. But be impressed if it was filmed that recently and released. Surely there would have been some editing / pre watching etc to check everyone was happy. |  |
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| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:59 - Jun 11 with 2004 views | DJR |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:53 - Jun 11 by urbanpenguin |
Hi, editor here, this is entirely not true.
Yes, nationals will have obits for famous people ready and be updating them regularly - Attenburgh, royalty, etc - but to suggest that a media company would have a readymade article about a manager resigning to take a break with his family is nonsense. |
In addition, both the EADT and TWTD reports were largely made up of the McKenna and Ashton statements.
You couldn't write those in advance. |  | | |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 08:36 - Jun 11 with 1612 views | vapour_trail |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:53 - Jun 11 by urbanpenguin |
Hi, editor here, this is entirely not true.
Yes, nationals will have obits for famous people ready and be updating them regularly - Attenburgh, royalty, etc - but to suggest that a media company would have a readymade article about a manager resigning to take a break with his family is nonsense. |
Hi, I have some media background but I’ll certainly give way to your experience.
That’s not entirely what I meant. The family line won’t be prepped, mainly because it’s clearly boIIocks. I meant more the essence of the story. | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 08:39 - Jun 11 with 1547 views | vapour_trail |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:53 - Jun 11 by urbanpenguin |
Hi, editor here, this is entirely not true.
Yes, nationals will have obits for famous people ready and be updating them regularly - Attenburgh, royalty, etc - but to suggest that a media company would have a readymade article about a manager resigning to take a break with his family is nonsense. |
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| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 08:41 - Jun 11 with 1507 views | victorysquad |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:56 - Jun 11 by jas0999 |
Very interesting SKY reported KM definitely not going to Fulham. Then this story broke at 6. |
Yes, it would seem the two events must be linked, so whilst the taking time out story is the best one to lead with, the reality is, he wants to manage elsewhere, probably at a club with a more stable chance of staying up. Given he turned down Brighton and Palace jobs, and he can see how they went, you can't really blame him. As football fans, we want him to dedicate his soul to us for 20 years and take us to dizzy heights, but in reality, football management is a brutal career path, he is protecting his own career and doing what is right for him and his family. At the end of the day, you can't knock that, we all do that. | |
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| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 08:44 - Jun 11 with 1413 views | PhilTWTD |
Was told an hour or so before it was announced. |  | | |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 08:47 - Jun 11 with 1350 views | PhilTWTD |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:56 - Jun 11 by jas0999 |
Very interesting SKY reported KM definitely not going to Fulham. Then this story broke at 6. |
Assume they were given the news ahead of the announcement as we were. Club had been very definite on him not going to Fulham for the previous couple of days when they were asked, now we know why. | | | |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 08:50 - Jun 11 with 1239 views | Mullet |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 08:44 - Jun 11 by PhilTWTD |
Was told an hour or so before it was announced. |
And you didn’t tell us?
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| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 09:06 - Jun 11 with 958 views | WD19 |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 08:50 - Jun 11 by Mullet |
And you didn’t tell us?
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Well he sort of did. He went from saying “he is definitely not going anywhere” to “well I didn’t say that exactly” 🤣 |  | | |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 09:07 - Jun 11 with 949 views | jonny1964 |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 07:57 - Jun 11 by Samuelowen88 |
Not doubting the info in general. But be impressed if it was filmed that recently and released. Surely there would have been some editing / pre watching etc to check everyone was happy. |
and all the admin content ready to go...... | | | |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 09:16 - Jun 11 with 787 views | Dubtractor |
| Phil… did you and the other journos know in advance? on 09:06 - Jun 11 by WD19 |
Well he sort of did. He went from saying “he is definitely not going anywhere” to “well I didn’t say that exactly” 🤣 |
He ought to be a politician.... |  |
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