| How many more signings? 13:01 - Jul 26 with 3663 views | Nutkins_Return |
Seen a quite a few saying that 8-9 more after this keeper is in (or maybe including the keeper).
Other than youth signings that I wouldn't count my best guess would be another 4 + replacing any first teamers who leave (e.g. Philogene, Taylor etc I wouldn't include non first teamers like H Clarke or Al Hamadi since they weren't in our numbers last year).
Just don't see another 8-9. Scherpen will be our 8th signing (6th ex Kipre/Akpom) and just don't see 16-17 signing being the plan.
We need:
2x top quality CMs
1x Quality Striker
1-2x Full backs.
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| How many more signings? on 13:02 - Jul 26 with 3160 views | Gary_Knows |
At least 8 after Scherpen signs.
Right back/RWB
Centre back
Left back
CM x2
Winger/10
Striker x2 |  |
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| How many more signings? on 13:04 - Jul 26 with 3143 views | pointofblue |
For me, we need another CB as well - particularly if we are going to be okay with a back three.
Perhaps an additional CM on top of the two you said as well. IMO Matusiwa is the only Premier League standard midfielder at the club so we require cover too. | |
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| How many more signings? on 13:26 - Jul 26 with 3034 views | jayessess |
I think there's a real decline in efficiency when you start spending on squad players, so logically much more than 11 in total is going to have a law of diminishing returns.
There are calls for signing 2 even 3 more strikers. How good are the 3rd and 4th strikers we sign in *one* summer going to be? Again 3 new midfielders, how good is the 3rd one going to be. New left back, ok, how much improvement do you get on Johnson/Greaves in a reasonably priced Davis backup?
For me a RB, LCM, #10, ST are actual needs. Nothing else we do should be allowed to divert resources away from those four roles. [Post edited 26 Jul 13:40]
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| How many more signings? on 13:51 - Jul 26 with 2889 views | wischip |
I'll be surprised if we sign more than 4 more players before season starts. We're never gonna have 2 players for each position that we are confident are Premier League quality. We don't know who is yet moving on permanently or on a season long loan to make way for more incomings. It might just be that GON thinks there are players we already have who can raise their game up a division in his system and give them a chance until the January window to make later changes. Do you go with the core of the Championship promotion team who ground out results together to get us here hoping their settled togetherness can work at the higher level or do you sign a whole new team and wait for them to gel which might take too long for a good start ? (We definitely need at least another central midfielder though) [Post edited 26 Jul 13:53]
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| How many more signings? on 13:52 - Jul 26 with 2855 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
I stand by this.
Recruitment this summer by SuffolkPunchFC 23 Jul 23:26I’d say £150-200M (so another £80-130M) with 5-6 more arrivals. Gonna be an interesting balancing act, as 1/3rd of the squad need to be home grown, and we’re diluting that mix with new signings.
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| How many more signings? on 13:59 - Jul 26 with 2797 views | MK1 |
We still need a RB, LB, CB, 2x CM and a CF.
Think the wide areas are covered now, so need to concentrate on the spine. Our current LB & RB options are ok, but would like to see 1 in each area come in. |  |
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| How many more signings? on 15:55 - Jul 26 with 2503 views | Vaughan8 |
If its only 4 we are going to be screwed.
Needs to be at least 6-8 more.
I'd say only few last season should be starters this season.....! | | | |
| How many more signings? on 16:19 - Jul 26 with 2384 views | Bellevue_Blue |
That would leave us so so short at the back.
A Greaves Injury would see Kipre playing 38 PL games.
That alone will get us relegated.
If you are going to play 5 at the back you have to have at least 5 competent CBs.
As for the rest we were pretty bang average for large parts of last year. We have a huge huge gap to bridge and will need quality and quantity. | | | |
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| How many more signings? on 16:33 - Jul 26 with 2309 views | BlueBoots |
We're already at 29 players...2 spots freed by the GK department (Button not registered, loan for van Oevelen), 2 more with exits for H.Clarke and Humphreys (one year left on their contracts)
We're then in one-in, one-out territory - you'd think Szmodics would be the first cab off the rank, but agree with the OP that we need 2xCM's (particularly as both Matusiwa and Taylor are still coming back from ops), so someone else will need to be moved on (unless one of the CM's is U21) |  |
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| How many more signings? on 16:36 - Jul 26 with 2276 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Ignore Kipre and Akpom who aren’t PL players.
We need more than you suggest to have a chance, the team that got promoted isn’t close to being PL ready unfortunately. Imagine our bench if we only sign 4-5 more, the depth would be really poor. |  |
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| How many more signings? on 16:38 - Jul 26 with 2263 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| How many more signings? on 16:19 - Jul 26 by Bellevue_Blue |
That would leave us so so short at the back.
A Greaves Injury would see Kipre playing 38 PL games.
That alone will get us relegated.
If you are going to play 5 at the back you have to have at least 5 competent CBs.
As for the rest we were pretty bang average for large parts of last year. We have a huge huge gap to bridge and will need quality and quantity. |
If anyone watched the second half of last season and thought Kipre can play in the PL they’re living on a different planet. I assumed we’d flip him for 5M. | |
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| How many more signings? on 16:41 - Jul 26 with 2245 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Another CB has to be a priority. The fact we were linked with Alkesandro for a big fee suggest to me we are looking to drop some money on a big player there. |  |
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| How many more signings? on 16:45 - Jul 26 with 2214 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| How many more signings? on 16:33 - Jul 26 by BlueBoots |
We're already at 29 players...2 spots freed by the GK department (Button not registered, loan for van Oevelen), 2 more with exits for H.Clarke and Humphreys (one year left on their contracts)
We're then in one-in, one-out territory - you'd think Szmodics would be the first cab off the rank, but agree with the OP that we need 2xCM's (particularly as both Matusiwa and Taylor are still coming back from ops), so someone else will need to be moved on (unless one of the CM's is U21) |
Surely 5 or 6 will go in next week or two. | |
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| How many more signings? on 16:47 - Jul 26 with 2197 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| How many more signings? on 16:41 - Jul 26 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Another CB has to be a priority. The fact we were linked with Alkesandro for a big fee suggest to me we are looking to drop some money on a big player there. |
We’ve only signed one new defender as an addition from last season, surely by September there needs to be 4 new players (inc Diop) in that department alone! | |
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| How many more signings? on 17:56 - Jul 26 with 2013 views | PioneerBlue |
Im not saying we dont need 6-8 more but it is a tad unrealistic from a squad planning perspective if we want to really hit the ground running. | |
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| How many more signings? on 19:30 - Jul 26 with 1835 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Think we'll go with one more striker, another CM and a LB as priorities, we might sign another winger if Philogene goes. I can't really see a world where we add eight more at this point, but I guess we don't really know GONs view on the squad that was here. |  |
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| How many more signings? on 19:32 - Jul 26 with 1819 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| How many more signings? on 19:30 - Jul 26 by JammyDodgerrr |
Think we'll go with one more striker, another CM and a LB as priorities, we might sign another winger if Philogene goes. I can't really see a world where we add eight more at this point, but I guess we don't really know GONs view on the squad that was here. |
You think we are bringing in just 3 more?! | |
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| How many more signings? on 21:51 - Jul 26 with 1627 views | ipswichtillidie |
| How many more signings? on 13:59 - Jul 26 by MK1 |
We still need a RB, LB, CB, 2x CM and a CF.
Think the wide areas are covered now, so need to concentrate on the spine. Our current LB & RB options are ok, but would like to see 1 in each area come in. |
This was my thinking 6 in those positions. That is a minimum though so we might go 7-8 more minus the new no1 keeper. |  |
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| How many more signings? on 22:31 - Jul 26 with 1457 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| How many more signings? on 19:32 - Jul 26 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
You think we are bringing in just 3 more?! |
Just don't think we have room, or time, to have that sort of movement? We've added five already, not including Kipre and Akpom, and assuming the other keeper is done,
Another 3 would put us at eight in for the window, with the new manager. | |
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| How many more signings? on 22:38 - Jul 26 with 1420 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| How many more signings? on 22:31 - Jul 26 by JammyDodgerrr |
Just don't think we have room, or time, to have that sort of movement? We've added five already, not including Kipre and Akpom, and assuming the other keeper is done,
Another 3 would put us at eight in for the window, with the new manager. |
Yes we do, 5 is nothing for a promoted club and one of those was a back up keeper.
I’m expecting a very active few weeks which will be needed if we have a hope of staying in this league
As for the room, loads are obviously about to leave that are no way near PL level squad players. [Post edited 26 Jul 22:40]
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| How many more signings? on 23:38 - Jul 26 with 1320 views | PioneerBlue |
If we were to bring in another 6 in addition to Oevelen, Kipre, Diop, Fatawu, Maeda, Emersonn then i understand our squad would be at 35. That means we have to shift 10, this excludes SWE.
Obvious ones
GK 1 of Oevelen and or Palmer retaining Button as 3rd GK (-2)
FB H Clarke and 1 of Furlong or Ben Johnson (-4)
CM 1 of Humphries and or J Taylor (-5)
RW Ogbene (-6)
10 Szmodics (-7)
L10 Jaden (-8)
Striker AAH and or Hirst (-10) | |
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| How many more signings? on 00:37 - Jul 27 with 1245 views | Kropotkin123 |
I don't understand how you can look at last year's team and not feel we need to strengthen other areas.
Starters - 6 Needed.
GK - Sherpen
LCB - Greaves is considered to better option for the EPL, but could only get around ~ 2000 minutes. Kipre will likely not be registered.
RB - Furlong played ~3500 minutes. But is not EPL starter quality. I think he is fine as back up. Johnson, in my opinion, isn't good enough. He's played ~2000 minutes across 2 years. I think it is fanciful that someone that couldn't play RB in the Championship is good enough to be RWB back up in the EPL.
CM - Taylor played ~2000mins not good enough to start. Cajuste is not here and is not good enough.
CF - Nunez played the most amount of time (~2000mins) as CF, and not all of that time was even in that position. He wasn't great in that position. Ideally we need to bring in someone better.
ST - Emersonn was bought in as a secondary striker. Hirst isn't good enough to lead the line in the EPL.
Finishers - 2
LB - We have no cover for Lief. If we find better, we will replace
CM - We have no cover for Matusiwa. If we find better, we will replace
Maybe - 3
CM - If we can find a better back up than Taylor
GK - Depends on our plans for Van Oevelen and Walton's injury
ST - Maybe Hirst and Akpom don't make the cut and we can find better and still have the funds
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| How many more signings? on 07:10 - Jul 27 with 1000 views | jayessess |
| How many more signings? on 00:37 - Jul 27 by Kropotkin123 |
I don't understand how you can look at last year's team and not feel we need to strengthen other areas.
Starters - 6 Needed.
GK - Sherpen
LCB - Greaves is considered to better option for the EPL, but could only get around ~ 2000 minutes. Kipre will likely not be registered.
RB - Furlong played ~3500 minutes. But is not EPL starter quality. I think he is fine as back up. Johnson, in my opinion, isn't good enough. He's played ~2000 minutes across 2 years. I think it is fanciful that someone that couldn't play RB in the Championship is good enough to be RWB back up in the EPL.
CM - Taylor played ~2000mins not good enough to start. Cajuste is not here and is not good enough.
CF - Nunez played the most amount of time (~2000mins) as CF, and not all of that time was even in that position. He wasn't great in that position. Ideally we need to bring in someone better.
ST - Emersonn was bought in as a secondary striker. Hirst isn't good enough to lead the line in the EPL.
Finishers - 2
LB - We have no cover for Lief. If we find better, we will replace
CM - We have no cover for Matusiwa. If we find better, we will replace
Maybe - 3
CM - If we can find a better back up than Taylor
GK - Depends on our plans for Van Oevelen and Walton's injury
ST - Maybe Hirst and Akpom don't make the cut and we can find better and still have the funds
https://script.google.com/macr [Post edited 27 Jul 0:48]
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Think there's a tendency to focus too much on numbers and not enough on quality. Squad depth is an illusion for newly-promoted teams in the Premier League, you just can't get enough quality outside of your best 15 or so players to make much of a difference. Simply put, if we take too many injuries to key players we'll be screwed.
Sunderland had just 14 players make 1,000 minutes. That number for Leeds was 17.
Honestly, if you occupied our entire budget with 4 of the highest quality players we could find, robust ones with good injury records, we'd be doing ourselves far more good than spreading it across 11 new players. [Post edited 27 Jul 7:37]
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| How many more signings? on 07:26 - Jul 27 with 931 views | tetchris |
New signings
2 x CM
1 x RB
1 x LB
2 x ST
Retire
Button
Defo sell
Al-Hamadi, Humphrey’s, Ogbene, Szmodics, Akpom, Mehmeti, Palmer, H. Clarke, Johnson
Possibly sell
Taylor, Hirst | | | |
| How many more signings? on 07:31 - Jul 27 with 904 views | NthQldITFC |
Just one more - another RW.
Failing that, perhaps twenty more? 6 x GK, a RB, and 13 strikers.
(Just wanted to add some of my considered and informed thoughts to the wild and varied levels of speculation. All good fun, but.) |  |
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