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Therapy 02:58 - Oct 22 with 2761 viewsCotty

I’m not a fan of oversharing with strangers, but I’ve reached a point that I’m aware I need help. I’m looking at getting a private therapist but some of the quoted rates are eye watering. I’m keen to hear from people who have benefitted from it. Thanks twtders. X
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Therapy on 03:08 - Oct 22 with 2183 viewsStNeotsBlue

Speaking from one of family members perspective cost doesn't necessarily equate to quality. They were paying a bomb to someone they didn't connect with and has now switched to someone recommended by a workmate at a much lower rate and it is making a real difference.
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Therapy on 06:23 - Oct 22 with 1992 viewsGavTWTD

I needed some help some time ago. Samaritans, well, didn't work for me. NHS were sympathetic but couldn't help for 6 months.

I *think* I ended up on https://www.psychotherapy.org. and selected someone close. May have been a free first consult and then 6 appointments later at £30 an hour but that was a few years ago.

It was essential to me at the time. Ridiculous looking back at that period but the mind plays tricks. I wasn't in control.

Hope you get the hope and help you need.

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Therapy on 07:43 - Oct 22 with 1799 viewsKeno

Hi Cotty, and others

well done for recognising this. I put off finding help for year and ended a op speaking to a hypnotherapist a couple of years back and wish Id done it much earlier!

Google local ones, compare reviews and costs and talk to someone in advance to get a feel for whether you think they suitable

But most of all just do it

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Therapy on 07:44 - Oct 22 with 1780 viewsGlasgowBlue

Sorry to hear this Cotty. Although I can’t be much help ion this I listen to The Rest Is Politics podcast. Alistair Campbell is one of the co hosts. He has had his own well documented struggles with depression and recommends this online resource.

https://www.betterhelp.com/onl

Hope you manage to get something sorted.
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Therapy on 08:17 - Oct 22 with 1676 viewsGeoffSentence

Do you have private health insurance through work? Some places provide it as a benefit. One of my family members was able to get therapy on my work's private health insurance which would otherwise have cost £100 an hour.

As someone else mentioned cost does not necessarily equate to effectiveness. Happily this one was good, but if it hadn't the insurance did at least provide other options.

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Therapy on 08:18 - Oct 22 with 1668 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

CBT changed my life, so I'd defo recommend that if you can find a good therapist. How you do that I don't know, I think I found mine through luck more than judgement.

I had chronic anxiety (before it was fashionable!) To make a year-long story short, I went from my first task of getting on a bus for one stop... though loads of slightly more difficult tasks... to eventually performing stand up comedy! It was an incredible journey I wouldn't have thought possible if you'd told me that's where I'd end up.

What I didn't realise when I was younger is that the mind is malleable. However it is now is not fixed; if you work on it you can change it. The changes are subtle and it takes time, and work. But you might as well go for it. X

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Therapy on 08:33 - Oct 22 with 1638 viewsbluelagos

Can't add a lot other than to say 30 odd years ago I had a series of sessions with an NHS shrink who used CBT to help me at a low point (for PTSD)

I was lucky that support was available via my GP and just to say asking for help was probably the hardest but also the most important thing I ever did.

So good luck and hope the cost can be managed and a decent therapist found. Happy to chat on DM (if appropriate...)

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Therapy on 08:41 - Oct 22 with 1571 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Therapy on 08:33 - Oct 22 by bluelagos

Can't add a lot other than to say 30 odd years ago I had a series of sessions with an NHS shrink who used CBT to help me at a low point (for PTSD)

I was lucky that support was available via my GP and just to say asking for help was probably the hardest but also the most important thing I ever did.

So good luck and hope the cost can be managed and a decent therapist found. Happy to chat on DM (if appropriate...)


I'm fairly sure you can still get 6 sessions for free via your GP. I think you know fairly quickly if the personal dynamics will work.

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Therapy on 08:42 - Oct 22 with 1569 viewsDanTheMan

Therapy on 07:44 - Oct 22 by GlasgowBlue

Sorry to hear this Cotty. Although I can’t be much help ion this I listen to The Rest Is Politics podcast. Alistair Campbell is one of the co hosts. He has had his own well documented struggles with depression and recommends this online resource.

https://www.betterhelp.com/onl

Hope you manage to get something sorted.
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Just going to barge in here - please don't use better help.

https://www.theguardian.com/au

They are a scummy company.

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Therapy on 08:45 - Oct 22 with 1550 viewsDanTheMan

Therapy on 08:41 - Oct 22 by BanksterDebtSlave

I'm fairly sure you can still get 6 sessions for free via your GP. I think you know fairly quickly if the personal dynamics will work.


IAPT services are usually free and self-referral.

https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-service

You will be going down one of the usual paths (CBT etc.) unless you have severe needs though.

Unfortunately, mental health services continue to be the first things cut so more targeted therapies available via the NHS is going to only those who are having very severe issues.

There is nowhere near enough psychologists for the demand and there are hiring freezes everywhere.

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Therapy on 07:43 - Oct 22 by Keno

Hi Cotty, and others

well done for recognising this. I put off finding help for year and ended a op speaking to a hypnotherapist a couple of years back and wish Id done it much earlier!

Google local ones, compare reviews and costs and talk to someone in advance to get a feel for whether you think they suitable

But most of all just do it

x


Another recommendation for hypnotherapy, but my experience is from thirty or so years ago and was needed to overcome hyperventilation (due to starting a new job and realising that the company was a mess.) Cost me twenty pounds an hour back then and I could ill afford it with a young family but it brought me back to a reasonable balance so it turns out I could not afford to pass it up.

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Therapy on 08:58 - Oct 22 with 1504 viewsbuoyant

Well done you for your awareness!

I've had a fair amount of therapy over the years some personal but a whole chunk provided proactively due to the work I was in. The forces and police, could learn a lot from humanitarian orgs. I like to think I landed on mindfulness before it got trendy :)

I seem to recall that you hail from Woodbridge and I know a decent therapist there. Most Psys are >£80 per session.

UTT

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Therapy on 08:59 - Oct 22 with 1504 viewsJasper

Therapy on 07:43 - Oct 22 by Keno

Hi Cotty, and others

well done for recognising this. I put off finding help for year and ended a op speaking to a hypnotherapist a couple of years back and wish Id done it much earlier!

Google local ones, compare reviews and costs and talk to someone in advance to get a feel for whether you think they suitable

But most of all just do it

x


I went down the hypnotherapy route as well for stress/anxiety and can highly recommend it. I pretty much stumbled across a good one because I had tried a couple previously to give up smoking.

I still listen to Paul Mckenna self hypnosis sessions you can find on YouTube when I can feel my stress levels rising and that really helps. I should really do it all the time (rather than just when I am feeling stressed) as its about reprogramming the brain.
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Therapy on 09:10 - Oct 22 with 1443 viewsMullet

The NHS are brilliant, but overrun so wait times will vary based on which category you fall into.

Andy’s man club might not appeal given what you’ve said, but I’ve heard of people having great success with it.

There are various free apps which are decent like MindShift vs paid for ones. It depends on where you think your money is better spent on that aspect.

It’s also worth disclosing to your employer as they might have access to a private route either a phone line initially or even discounted/free treatment.

Some people use AI but I’d swerve that! There are however a range of things like CBT books and diaries available which can be used to help at least stem the tide until you can be seen.

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Therapy on 09:44 - Oct 22 with 1344 viewsBloomBlue

Firstly sorry as I don't know the actual details of your situation so this maybe off track. But 2 people I know suffering with mental issues which required therapy, reached out to the charity, Mind, and found that route incredibly helpful.
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Therapy on 09:52 - Oct 22 with 1315 views_CliveBaker_

Well done for recognising you need a little help, that's a big step.

I found myself struggling in 2020 / 2021, through a combination of factors over a period of time. I think maturation brings with it a lot of responsibility, whether it be debt, kids, work, feeling like you need to have all the answers 24/7. I had a lot of change and stress in a very short space of time which took its toll.

I had a very senior job at the time in a company that had grown incredibly fast and outpaced my belief in my ability to do it back then. Becoming a parent, and the responsibility to keep a little human safe and happy weighed heavy on me, as did my Dad becoming seriously unwell, along with all the other stresses of life. I've never been great at putting my hand up and asking for help, and it had me feeling like I was on a hamster wheel that was getting quicker every day.

Coincided with me having a series of chest pains, and hitting the cobbles outside Charing Cross station one day. I was told I had prolonged burnout and ended up having CBT therapy. It really helped give me the preventative tools, and to recognise and manage the triggers, to not catastrophise, and to manage perfectionism. As much as anything I'm conscious of it now and I can view the mind as a muscle. Its needs the care and attention any other muscle does.

I'm a huge advocate for physical exercise. Not to belittle people's challenges down to a lack of exercise, its no silver bullet to good mental health by any stretch, but for me personally the correlation between that and my mental state is so stark. I once heard someone say depression doesn't like a moving target, I think its true for stress too. We live increasingly sedentary lifestyles and making myself get out and walk, run, socialise while kicking a ball is so important to me.

Sorry for the rant, I wish you well. DM's are always open (as they are for anyone).
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Therapy on 09:58 - Oct 22 with 1268 viewsBlueandTruesince82

As said already check with your health care provider through work, they may cover the cost or at least some.

Self space is worth a look, lots of options there.

Ultimately it is about finding the right therapist for you and connecting. Price is not an indicator or quality, look at their qualifications (look up what they actually are) and get a sense of them how they work and be clear about what you want and your goals

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Therapy on 10:15 - Oct 22 with 1200 viewsgiant_stow

Sorry to hear you're suffering mr.

I've seen lots of therapists and shrinks for my OCD over the years, although not for a while now, admittedly. I've kind of given up on talking therapy and stick with flouroxitine which for better or worse, keeps my symptoms manageable, allowing me to work (which was always the problem, personally).

Anyway, I've paid £150 an hour and and paid £30 an hour - the rates never seemed to bear much relation to the quality of help tbh. Far more important was personal vibes and the relationship with the therapist. The best guy I ever saw was on the NHS, when I jumped the queue by allowing students to sit in on the sessions - worth checking that option.

Failing that, I'd just say that the odd therapist I've known has seemingly been on a power-trip - dodge them like the plague. The best are only interested in you and getting at how they can help you - the best listen first basically.

One bit of advice I got years back: no one ever got better by not working (alone). Getting better takes effort and time (or in my case, that and taking my mad pills like a good little boy).

All the best.

Edit: reading that back, its all a bit negative and probably not what you need to hear right now - apologies. My experiences are specific to me - lots of people find talking therapy to be incredibly useful. The fact I'm choosing to rely on pills shouldn't stop anyone seeking help. Thought about deleting this, but probably best to keep it there for honest's sake / another perspective. Edit 2: i should add that my choice is also related to money - I'm currently skint: a monthly tenner for a prescription is cheaper than therapy.
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Therapy on 10:16 - Oct 22 with 1186 viewsLibero

As others have said - whatever you do, do not use Better Help, or similar services, for various reasons.

I highly recommend Jamie Clarke Counciling.
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Therapy on 10:16 - Oct 22 with 1180 viewsgiant_stow

Therapy on 09:52 - Oct 22 by _CliveBaker_

Well done for recognising you need a little help, that's a big step.

I found myself struggling in 2020 / 2021, through a combination of factors over a period of time. I think maturation brings with it a lot of responsibility, whether it be debt, kids, work, feeling like you need to have all the answers 24/7. I had a lot of change and stress in a very short space of time which took its toll.

I had a very senior job at the time in a company that had grown incredibly fast and outpaced my belief in my ability to do it back then. Becoming a parent, and the responsibility to keep a little human safe and happy weighed heavy on me, as did my Dad becoming seriously unwell, along with all the other stresses of life. I've never been great at putting my hand up and asking for help, and it had me feeling like I was on a hamster wheel that was getting quicker every day.

Coincided with me having a series of chest pains, and hitting the cobbles outside Charing Cross station one day. I was told I had prolonged burnout and ended up having CBT therapy. It really helped give me the preventative tools, and to recognise and manage the triggers, to not catastrophise, and to manage perfectionism. As much as anything I'm conscious of it now and I can view the mind as a muscle. Its needs the care and attention any other muscle does.

I'm a huge advocate for physical exercise. Not to belittle people's challenges down to a lack of exercise, its no silver bullet to good mental health by any stretch, but for me personally the correlation between that and my mental state is so stark. I once heard someone say depression doesn't like a moving target, I think its true for stress too. We live increasingly sedentary lifestyles and making myself get out and walk, run, socialise while kicking a ball is so important to me.

Sorry for the rant, I wish you well. DM's are always open (as they are for anyone).


You're bang on about physical exercise - it really does help

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Therapy on 10:26 - Oct 22 with 1144 viewsdavblue

Hey Cotty, 1st of all do what you can to help yourself. Not wanting to take this thread over but I am going through this exact same process. I’d been, I want to say coping but in reality I probably wasn’t for 18 months. Had an event recently that sent me over the edge so to speak and I was completely burnout, stressed to the point I couldn’t carry on any longer in the way I was. It had changed my personality, the way I was with my family.

I’ve had my 1st session with a psychologist yesterday. Although it was just a fact finding session, getting things off my chest helped as I’m not much of a talker.

Get what help you can as a healthy you is better for you and your family!

All the best, if you ever want to speak I can’t say I will have many if any answers but I’m here for you!
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Therapy on 10:42 - Oct 22 with 1059 viewsAxeldalai_lama

One of the best things I ever did was see a counselor, post marriage break up/mid life 'crisis' etc. Just helped me unpack loads of seemingly mundane issues and internalised beliefs and thoughts and rearrange them.

Nothing spectacular, just an hour a week for 6 months to just talk undiluted thoughts and repackage them a bit, and then the week to do brain work and just think about what had come out.

Don't think there is a 'right' way of doing it and mine felt very trivial, just chatting away about myself and my thoughts, but boy did it get me back on track.

Would massively recommend anyone for talking therapy. Good luck and you're most certainly not on your own, I'd recommend it to absolutely anyone.
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Therapy on 10:47 - Oct 22 with 1037 viewseirannach_gorm

The mere fact that you realise you need help is a big step in your recovery. Now you just need to choose the correct therapy(s) that suits you. There have been some great suggestions in the thread and good warning advice about bad actors. The only additional suggestion I can make is that I worked for a government body in Ireland and part of the employment package was a subcontracted health and wellness company that could be used freely to address such issues. Do you have a package like this included with your job? Good luck with getting back on track.
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Therapy on 10:53 - Oct 22 with 987 viewsBluefields

I had grief counselling for about 3 months and it was extremely helpful. I had one hour session a week and the cost was £40/50 per session. We dug very deep and went way back to childhood experiences but I ended up with valuable tools to cope with the dark thoughts I was experiencing. Would highly recommend to anyone. Good luck.
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Therapy on 11:04 - Oct 22 with 935 viewsPinewoodblue

You have already made two important steps, identifying your needs and speaking out.

Have you spoken to your GP? They maybe able to recommend someone. Better than sticking a pin in a list in yellow pages

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