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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results 12:03 - Aug 13 with 10816 views

My twitter timeline is full of A Level teachers with various levels of rage, upset and individual horror stories consoling each other. The bitterness and wrangling over this will no doubt increase once GCSEs come in next week.

I hope any parents/students out there today are not left too upset or resentful if the envelope wasn't what was predicted.

I've also just spotted this thread on the attainment gap which is useful too for showing why so many people are angry and / or resigned.

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:10 - Aug 13 with 4689 views

Steve_M

Some of the anecdotal stuff I've seen this morning on Twitter is horrible, kids being marked down two grades from predicted results, university offers disappearing. There's always an element of that with any exams but at least where pupils have taken the exams then it's down to performance.

This is incredibly unfair without the chance to even sit those exams.

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:20 - Aug 13 with 4649 views

Mullet

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:10 - Aug 13 by Steve_M
Some of the anecdotal stuff I've seen this morning on Twitter is horrible, kids being marked down two grades from predicted results, university offers disappearing. There's always an element of that with any exams but at least where pupils have taken the exams then it's down to performance. This is incredibly unfair without the chance to even sit those exams.

Yes. I've seen one teacher report 7 out of 10 kids got U's, but their school has never had a U in that subject. Assuming she isn't lying and hasn't had embellished after what was presumably the morning from hell, that is a massive red flag.

I've also seen one story on twitter claiming a girl had AAA lined up and got middling results and has lost her place at Cambridge. The reason cited? The type of school she was at. If there's any evidence to back that up it's downright criminal.

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:23 - Aug 13 with 4630 views

Herbivore

Scandalous.

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:32 - Aug 13 with 4599 views

BrianTablet

Am I being thick?
Don't those stats show that grades have gone up across the board?
So at all school types, results are higher than last year.

Yes, if you compare school types it scandalous if there's bias in favour of independents, but surely the grades mean that university offers, etc will - overall - be met.

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:44 - Aug 13 with 4546 views

clive_baker

I just don't understand why this would be allowed to happen.

After everything these students have been through, by way of uncertainty etc. Why not just give everyone their expected grade?

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:49 - Aug 13 with 4530 views

Steve_M

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:44 - Aug 13 by clive_baker
I just don't understand why this would be allowed to happen. After everything these students have been through, by way of uncertainty etc. Why not just give everyone their expected grade?

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DanTheMan

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:49 - Aug 13 by Steve_M

Do these people live in the real world?

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:56 - Aug 13 with 4497 views

Herbivore

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:50 - Aug 13 by DanTheMan
Do these people live in the real world?

A lot of people are pointing out the irony of Gavin Williamson talking about people being promoted above their ability. It applies to pretty much everyone in this shower of a Tory government.

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Mullet

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:32 - Aug 13 by BrianTablet
Am I being thick? Don't those stats show that grades have gone up across the board? So at all school types, results are higher than last year. Yes, if you compare school types it scandalous if there's bias in favour of independents, but surely the grades mean that university offers, etc will - overall - be met.

You're not being thick at all. That's something we need to take out of the discourse completely.

There's a clear drop last year and the rate at which different types of institutions have "bounced back" is massively disproportionate. There are different strands from that you can politicise and manipulate.

The obvious one being that private schools have been doubly benefited at both the overall pass rate and top grades. That means that university entries will be disproportionately in favour of students who are already privileged, for want of a better word.

Those forced through clearing or now forced out of higher education will be disproportionately from the bottom sectors of society which will bring in class, ethnicity and social mobility arguments.

Labour have tweeted a BBC interview with a girl from Hull who is visibly angry and upset (rightly so) which might be a cynical nudge at this, or it might reflect that the well-spoken all girls schools of the home counties simply don't have those stories to tell.

There is also the aspect of whether or not the government have nudged the data so that there is a rise across the board back to where schools were more or less to try and stem any calls of unfairness. The reformed GCSEs and A Levels are still fairly new so it's hard to compare them beyond the last few years. The first results for A Level would have been 2017 (off the top of my head) so any trend is too small and suspect potentially.

If you haven't done so, click the tweets and read the threads as they probably answer you better than I can without a couple of hours of googling. Sorry.

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:58 - Aug 13 with 4485 views

Ftnfwest

I honestly am not at all qualified to analyse this or the general results reaction but i would have thought (particularly with Miss Ftnfwest's GCSE's due a week today) that results ought to be a mix between Predicted Grades in whenever the last report was and maybe mocks in the odd subject where a particularly good or bad result came through. But that would mean you wouldn't get any lower than your mock at worst and usually between mock and predicted, generally closer to the latter. Sounds like Duckworth Lewis for Exams...

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 13:06 - Aug 13 with 4448 views

Swansea_Blue

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:57 - Aug 13 by Mullet

I wouldn't at all be surprised if the government see this as an excellent outcome, and even entertain the idea of adopting more of this approach to grading in the future.

Hard not to be cynical based on their 'performance' to date.

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:10 - Aug 13 by Steve_M
Some of the anecdotal stuff I've seen this morning on Twitter is horrible, kids being marked down two grades from predicted results, university offers disappearing. There's always an element of that with any exams but at least where pupils have taken the exams then it's down to performance. This is incredibly unfair without the chance to even sit those exams.

but overall grades are up considerably and more places at universities have been confirmed.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 13:58 - Aug 13 with 4362 views

Mullet

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 13:06 - Aug 13 by Swansea_Blue
I wouldn't at all be surprised if the government see this as an excellent outcome, and even entertain the idea of adopting more of this approach to grading in the future. Hard not to be cynical based on their 'performance' to date.

Well as if by chuffing magic...

This bloke is truly unbelievable at the best of times, however, the pithy and blunt manner of his tweet is not only dishonest and incorrect but purposefully propaganda to smear blame outwards.

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Steve_M

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 13:57 - Aug 13 by lowhouseblue
but overall grades are up considerably and more places at universities have been confirmed.

The overall picture wont matter a damn to individual students marked far below predicted grades or mocks for exams they were not able to take.

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Swansea_Blue

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 14:02 - Aug 13 by Steve_M
The overall picture wont matter a damn to individual students marked far below predicted grades or mocks for exams they were not able to take.

I think you're falling into the trap of caring about people and thinking they should have a fair opportunity

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Swansea_Blue

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 13:58 - Aug 13 by Mullet
Well as if by chuffing magic... This bloke is truly unbelievable at the best of times, however, the pithy and blunt manner of his tweet is not only dishonest and incorrect but purposefully propaganda to smear blame outwards.

No surprise to see those scrotes stirring the pot as usual. I haven't got a clue about how the grading system was developed, but I know there's a 95% chance this is rubbish or at best disingenuous.

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Mullet

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 14:08 - Aug 13 by Swansea_Blue
No surprise to see those scrotes stirring the pot as usual. I haven't got a clue about how the grading system was developed, but I know there's a 95% chance this is rubbish or at best disingenuous.

Given there were last minute changes by the government it is essentially saying that Unions being consulted (as they have to be essentially) is equivalent to saying they signed off and designed this system. It's a disgusting position to take when thousands of pupils and staff are crushed today and there is more to come next week.

Everybody takes GCSEs so the chances of grades being more volatile is almost certain I'd say.

I've just seen this too which raises questions about unfairness based on region etc. I don't blame the Welsh here either but it also skews things further when it comes to arguments around inflation and accepting places.

Likewise, it's being suggested some unis are being lenient. Which is going to happen as they aren't going to want to lose fees are they?

What a mess.

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hype313

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 14:13 - Aug 13 by Mullet

Likewise, it's being suggested some unis are being lenient. Which is going to happen as they aren't going to want to lose fees are they?

What a mess.

Rather than the "Get Brexit Done" tagline for the Tories it should just be as you say "What a Mess".

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 12:58 - Aug 13 by Ftnfwest

Which I think is broadly how many teachers came to the grades they then forwarded into the system...that and their pupil knowledge from two years if teaching these kids. Far as I can tell, some teachers have maybe pushed their luck and put in for more higher grades than they warranted which was going to cause quite a skew. Tbh, I don't really understand why some of the huge discrepancies but there was bound to be some if not so many, nor do I understand how reportedly some kids have done even better than what the teachers put in for them...that seems odd.

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BlueBadger

i liked the bit where Gavin Williamson said that increasing A level grades could result in ' whole generation promoted beyond their abilities'.

Well, I suppose himself and the rest of the cabinet would know all about THAT.

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 14:36 - Aug 13 by BlueBadger
i liked the bit where Gavin Williamson said that increasing A level grades could result in ' whole generation promoted beyond their abilities'. Well, I suppose himself and the rest of the cabinet would know all about THAT.

At the very least give them the benefit of doubt, the opportunity to fail if that's the case.

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ElderGrizzly

One extreme example of the apparent unfairness of the system used this year

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Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 14:36 - Aug 13 by BlueBadger
i liked the bit where Gavin Williamson said that increasing A level grades could result in ' whole generation promoted beyond their abilities'. Well, I suppose himself and the rest of the cabinet would know all about THAT.

Ed Balls sums it up very well

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Swansea_Blue

Here's some data with a small explanation on the A Level results on 15:08 - Aug 13 by ElderGrizzly
Ed Balls sums it up very well

Pullman nails it too:

I see that some of those Tories who were slamming Sturgeon yesterday are now quickly deleting their tweets. The immaturity and tribal level of politics in this country is so utterly depressing.

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