| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing 23:34 - Mar 20 with 3188 views | Deano69 |
Not really football is it. |  |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 23:41 - Mar 20 with 2937 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
No, and if the ball hits their arm or hand a penalty should be given as it is not a "natural position" for the arm to be in on a football pitch. |  | | |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 23:41 - Mar 20 with 2932 views | J2BLUE |
It's become a bit 'man on the post' hasn't it where if you don't do it now and concede all the pundits pile on. |  |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 00:17 - Mar 21 with 2879 views | Epiphone |
It'll be banned in due course. |  | | |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 00:35 - Mar 21 with 2852 views | SuperCoops |
I can't stand the ultra short goal kicks where you have 2 defenders nearly inside the 6 yard box to receive a short pass from the keeper. It's just asking for trouble right in front of your own goal. |  | | |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 07:27 - Mar 21 with 2680 views | Plums |
I can’t understand why attacking teams don’t spread themselves along the width of the box in these situations. The wall would have to break up to mark them, the player with the free kick then has options. Shoot or pass. It’s all so formulaic. |  |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 08:37 - Mar 21 with 2569 views | Deano69 |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 07:27 - Mar 21 by Plums |
I can’t understand why attacking teams don’t spread themselves along the width of the box in these situations. The wall would have to break up to mark them, the player with the free kick then has options. Shoot or pass. It’s all so formulaic. |
I have always wondered whether it’s worth trying not having a wall for free kicks not on the edge of the box. The keeper would have much better visibility, it does give the free kick taker something to swerve round and I would have though most keepers could save a very high percentage of direct shots from 30 yards or so.
Also allows defenders to mark/defend and have one or two players on the halfway line in case of a counter. | |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 08:38 - Mar 21 with 2562 views | Deano69 |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 23:41 - Mar 20 by ArnoldMoorhen |
No, and if the ball hits their arm or hand a penalty should be given as it is not a "natural position" for the arm to be in on a football pitch. |
And if they ‘trip’ a player over because they are on the floor I also think it should be a penalty. | |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 08:45 - Mar 21 with 2518 views | WD19 |
Deliberately facing the wrong way should be banned on the grounds of the head injury it could lead to. |  | | |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 08:49 - Mar 21 with 2513 views | Mullet |
Thought it made no difference to our free kick either. Judge hit a good one.
A shame later in the game we seemed to have no belief in attacking crosses and fee kicks. Edwards, Andre and Dobra all put stuff in that just petered out at the back post as a CB drifted it back over or behind the goal.
We need to work on that desperately. |  |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 08:58 - Mar 21 with 2481 views | townblue |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 08:49 - Mar 21 by Mullet |
Thought it made no difference to our free kick either. Judge hit a good one.
A shame later in the game we seemed to have no belief in attacking crosses and fee kicks. Edwards, Andre and Dobra all put stuff in that just petered out at the back post as a CB drifted it back over or behind the goal.
We need to work on that desperately. |
We seem to be obsessed with that move where we only cross to the back post and hope for a header back across goal for someone to knock in. Other than a couple of goals from Wilson it hasn't been that successful. We should at least mix it up and try hitting it into a dangerous areas occasionally. |  | | |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 09:57 - Mar 21 with 2380 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Seems daft to me. How often do free kick takers hit the ball under the wall anyway, let alone score from it? |  |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 10:08 - Mar 21 with 2343 views | Radlett_blue |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 08:37 - Mar 21 by Deano69 |
I have always wondered whether it’s worth trying not having a wall for free kicks not on the edge of the box. The keeper would have much better visibility, it does give the free kick taker something to swerve round and I would have though most keepers could save a very high percentage of direct shots from 30 yards or so.
Also allows defenders to mark/defend and have one or two players on the halfway line in case of a counter. |
I've always been surprised by keepers insisting on a wall once the free kick is 25 yards away or more. Unless there's a Roberto Carlos in the opposition, a pro keeper should save almost any shot from that distance with a clear view. Didn't Keane put himself in goal & back himself to stop any shot from a Town player from that distance?
I was also intrigued when town won a free kick next to the corner flag yesterday. Pompey ritually sent 2 players to form a "wall". If that made sense, why not have a wall to defend a corner? Yes, I know the players were also around to stop a quick free kick and a one-two. |  |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 10:11 - Mar 21 with 2332 views | giant_stow |
What on earth is this? Haven't seen much footy lately - are people literally lying down?! I'm being an idiot innit. |  |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 10:16 - Mar 21 with 2320 views | Mullet |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 10:08 - Mar 21 by Radlett_blue |
I've always been surprised by keepers insisting on a wall once the free kick is 25 yards away or more. Unless there's a Roberto Carlos in the opposition, a pro keeper should save almost any shot from that distance with a clear view. Didn't Keane put himself in goal & back himself to stop any shot from a Town player from that distance?
I was also intrigued when town won a free kick next to the corner flag yesterday. Pompey ritually sent 2 players to form a "wall". If that made sense, why not have a wall to defend a corner? Yes, I know the players were also around to stop a quick free kick and a one-two. |
It’s to massively cut down their options and it makes some sense. Obscuring their view and making them shoot leads to turnover of possession etc. I still think leaving two quick players up for a corner is something worth coming back.
Now teams don’t expect it too | |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 10:54 - Mar 21 with 2290 views | Romeo4 |
Have Pompey been doing this all season or is it a Cowley thing? |  | | |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 11:06 - Mar 21 with 2281 views | PhilTWTD |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 10:54 - Mar 21 by Romeo4 |
Have Pompey been doing this all season or is it a Cowley thing? |
Has been something which has crept in a fair bit this season in the Premier League. Not sure I've seen it before at this level though. |  | | |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 11:10 - Mar 21 with 2271 views | Meadowlark |
No. It's not.
But I am old.
What I want to know, is when did the obstruction law disappear? Once it was a free kick if you spread your arms and backed into someone whilst say guiding the ball out of play. Now it's a perfectly acceptable manoeuvre!! |  | | |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 11:16 - Mar 21 with 2255 views | Radlett_blue |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 11:10 - Mar 21 by Meadowlark |
No. It's not.
But I am old.
What I want to know, is when did the obstruction law disappear? Once it was a free kick if you spread your arms and backed into someone whilst say guiding the ball out of play. Now it's a perfectly acceptable manoeuvre!! |
This has never been a free kick if the ball remains within playing distance. | |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 11:54 - Mar 21 with 2224 views | hoppy |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 11:06 - Mar 21 by PhilTWTD |
Has been something which has crept in a fair bit this season in the Premier League. Not sure I've seen it before at this level though. |
It was the first time I've seen it, but I've not really watched much Premier League football to be fair. |  |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 11:59 - Mar 21 with 2218 views | hadleighboyblue |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 11:10 - Mar 21 by Meadowlark |
No. It's not.
But I am old.
What I want to know, is when did the obstruction law disappear? Once it was a free kick if you spread your arms and backed into someone whilst say guiding the ball out of play. Now it's a perfectly acceptable manoeuvre!! |
Other rules which seem to have disappeared .....
No standing in front of free kick , wasn't that a bookable offence at some time
What happened to the keeper having to release the ball after so many seconds , now they save the ball and then lay on the ground or wander aimlessly around the penalty area , wasting as much time as they like , couldn't that be classed as time wasting ? | | | |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 12:00 - Mar 21 with 2211 views | Radlett_blue |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 11:59 - Mar 21 by hadleighboyblue |
Other rules which seem to have disappeared .....
No standing in front of free kick , wasn't that a bookable offence at some time
What happened to the keeper having to release the ball after so many seconds , now they save the ball and then lay on the ground or wander aimlessly around the penalty area , wasting as much time as they like , couldn't that be classed as time wasting ? |
Yes, neither of these are enforced by referees, which is incredibly frustrating for spectators. | |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 12:03 - Mar 21 with 2207 views | Bluebell |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 11:06 - Mar 21 by PhilTWTD |
Has been something which has crept in a fair bit this season in the Premier League. Not sure I've seen it before at this level though. |
I really want the person taking the free kick to whack it at the wall making them all step backwards falling over the idiot laying on the ground!  |  | | |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 12:11 - Mar 21 with 2187 views | hoppy |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 12:03 - Mar 21 by Bluebell |
I really want the person taking the free kick to whack it at the wall making them all step backwards falling over the idiot laying on the ground! |
That would be brilliant! | |
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| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 12:16 - Mar 21 with 2173 views | PhilTWTD |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 12:03 - Mar 21 by Bluebell |
I really want the person taking the free kick to whack it at the wall making them all step backwards falling over the idiot laying on the ground! |
Good plan. Also, if you aim for where the lying down player's head is there's a good chance, assuming the wall jumps as anticipated, that the shot would loop into the goal in a manner the keeper wouldn't be able to stop. | | | |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 12:40 - Mar 21 with 2131 views | Dennyx4 |
| This whole ‘laying down behind the wall’ thing on 12:16 - Mar 21 by PhilTWTD |
Good plan. Also, if you aim for where the lying down player's head is there's a good chance, assuming the wall jumps as anticipated, that the shot would loop into the goal in a manner the keeper wouldn't be able to stop. |
Has anybody actually hit the player laying down behind the wall - I can't remember any shot hitting the player.
I remember a free kick or two, that went in under the wall (not that many of those either). |  | | |
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